Revolution Mafia (Based on the NBC series) - TOWN WIN

[ZZZX]

Lets try using your logic:

Reasons I am conf town with ur logic:
1- I pushed and lynched scum of both teams (with one of them flipped PR)
2- I softed my cop and showed result that if I was a scum player I would hide since it is of 0 use to me and actually makes me worse as scum.

See what I did there?

[Titus]

It's literally impossible for their to be a 4 man scum team. Which team is autolose, blue or red? Seriously. They have the same roles flipped. You'd have to argue for a third scumteam for them to be scum together and that also seems ridiculous.

Three third parties in a game. No. PV is NOT third party. Same with PM.

TSO did claim VT (but funny how lynch all liars didn't come up with Toasty). He claimed it so he would not get shot.


They all are containable if you stick within the realm of reality.

[ZZZX]

why cant they?
also you didnt explain how containable if I showed you how they can make ur plan fail. also respond to my last post

[ZZZX]

It's literally impossible for their to be a 4 man scum team. Which team is autolose, blue or red? Seriously. They have the same roles flipped. You'd have to argue for a third scumteam for them to be scum together and that also seems ridiculous.

Three third parties in a game. No. PV is NOT third party. Same with PM.

TSO did claim VT (but funny how lynch all liars didn't come up with Toasty). He claimed it so he would not get shot.


They all are containable if you stick within the realm of reality.

what makes game not Town-1-1-1-2-2? Its not tHAT impossible

[Titus]

Lets try using your logic:

Reasons I am conf town with ur logic:
1- I pushed and lynched scum of both teams (with one of them flipped PR)
2- I softed my cop and showed result that if I was a scum player I would hide since it is of 0 use to me and actually makes me worse as scum.

See what I did there?

You softed a cop.. whoohoo. TV obvtowns by the point you used your cop anyway. Scum get use of fakeclaiming cop.
You can bus. Good for you.

[Titus]

It's literally impossible for their to be a 4 man scum team. Which team is autolose, blue or red? Seriously. They have the same roles flipped. You'd have to argue for a third scumteam for them to be scum together and that also seems ridiculous.

Three third parties in a game. No. PV is NOT third party. Same with PM.

TSO did claim VT (but funny how lynch all liars didn't come up with Toasty). He claimed it so he would not get shot.


They all are containable if you stick within the realm of reality.

what makes game not Town-1-1-1-2-2? Its not tHAT impossible

Yeah it pretty much is. That's 4 KPN in a thirteen player game. *rolls eyes*

[Titus]

Derp fifteen player game.

[ZZZX]

Lets try using your logic:

Reasons I am conf town with ur logic:
1- I pushed and lynched scum of both teams (with one of them flipped PR)
2- I softed my cop and showed result that if I was a scum player I would hide since it is of 0 use to me and actually makes me worse as scum.

See what I did there?

You softed a cop.. whoohoo. TV obvtowns by the point you used your cop anyway. Scum get use of fakeclaiming cop.
You can bus. Good for you.

He was pretty much null when I posted my cop.

also respond to how I lynched both scums of both teams. Am I bussing? Check my scum meta. I never bus 99% of time.

[ZZZX]

I saw a 9player game with 4 thirdparties and 1 scum a while ago.

[ZZZX]

me vs titus :

[Titus]

Saying "I never bus" is precisely how Desperado and I won book of Shadows.

Micros are bastard by their nature. A 4 KPN setup is unwinnable for town usually.

You've basically attempted to set yourself up with a scum autowin and discredit plausible scenarios. You are almost certainly scum.

I'm done with this. You're unwilling to crack the setups I've established. You're just plugging your ears saying "I'm the obvious scumtown! becuase I have the most powerful fake claim!"

[ZZZX]

me vs titus :

Saying "I never bus" is precisely how Desperado and I won book of Shadows.

Micros are bastard by their nature. A 4 KPN setup is unwinnable for town usually.

You've basically attempted to set yourself up with a scum autowin and discredit plausible scenarios. You are almost certainly scum.

I'm done with this. You're unwilling to crack the setups I've established. You're just plugging your ears saying "I'm the obvious scumtown! becuase I have the most powerful fake claim!"

Please play this video to see how many times I explained the problem in the setup and you are dodging it.

I am not defending my self anymore since your case is a PoE where your plan is totally wrong.

which is the reason town nearly lost from another perfect 100% plan in event card mafia and only won when they went back to normal scumhunting.

Your case doesnt fucking exist. Your cracking the setup is fucking wrong and I explained why it fucking is. Get your fucking facts straight.

ZZZX OUT.

[spruce]

Y'all move sooooooo slow. I found myself actually watching the video.

Spruce, TurkishVan, PeregrineV, ToastyToast, PMysterious, Titus, ZZZX

Give me reasoning why each is confirmed. Now.

If you are wrong on me they can kill pretty much. and they can fake thier redirects or commutes pretty fucking easily.

Result: Your plan sucks

also I am the single most powerful town role alive and you want to lynch me cus PoE is fun. YEA RIGHT

Well Spruve isn't confirmed. Show how Spruce can kill tonight. Toasty would redirect Spruce upon himself, thus meaning if Spruce submitted a kill, he'd be dead.

TV is clear because she wouldn't know their would be a doc to support her claim of backup doctor. Plus, you kinda cop cleared her (if you're honest), so I see this as desperate.

PV was attacked by red scum (blue scum killed Mhork) and I healed him. scum!Pv doesn't clear town!PM, he does a weakass track like on Mala to "verify" your claim.

ToastyToast, again, not cleared but can be totally contained.

PM, cleared because blocked by red scum and confirmed by PV. Blue scum only had one member alive so PM cannot be blue scum (as PM couldn't kill Mhork without PV tracking him to the kill).

Titus, because I'm the doctor who healed PV and there's a backup doctor which strongly suggests my claim is true.


I do think one of Spruce/Toasty is scum, but the way it's structured is that if they have any hope of framing Mala they cannot kill tonight.

if toasty spurse team then toasty can basically not redirect and submit the kill.
PV can be a 3rd party just fine
PM can be thirdparty just fine (and who said there is only 1 blue/red scum left)
Titus can be scum since clearly with 2+ third parties then a scum doctor isnt impossible. And you claimed VT first time. Lynch all Liars.
VT is town unless godfather (and witha flipped investagation immune its unlikely)

And how is it desprate/ I gave you the whole list of players and even in this case noone is 100% confirmed or containable.

I like both those posts. I don't trust Titus at all, though most seem to think him town. "Lynch all liars" seems quite foreign here. At least Titus has a plan, and a plan which looks workable to at least give us more information. I don't agree with who he has as clear, but since it's most probable there are 2 Scum left on opposing teams they're certainly not working together. So whether Titus is Scum ot Town he's clearing folk for some other reason.

I better like ZZ's thinking (and it was Turk's too, as I pointed out), that with a claim of 2 Docs and 3 investigative roles in addition to the 2 Town investigative roles already gone, odds are good there's an Indie/Neutral left somewhere in those, and I don't mind trying to work with him/her - unless the extra claim is Scum, which is still a good possibility too.

At this point I think any of us Townies ought to be willing to sacrifice for the team. I know I am. It's looking a lot like Scum have to get down to 1 on 1 to win.

[PeregrineV]

I don;t like Turkish Van's low activity this game. It's a little target-rich environment for catching scum, so leaving the room to get a drink of water seems suspect.

Should be one red one blue. Could be 2 red 2 blue, but that would piss me off. Suspect no more 3p, since we've had the SK and the survivor.

Will go over scenarios later.

[Titus]

PV, if there's a kill in my setup, it must be Mala or ZZZX. If Spruce tries to kill, Toasty makes him kill himself. You track Toasty to verify redirect. PM watches me. I heal you.

If Mala is scum, she has to kill PM. If we have two killers, they run into the same trap.

Also a 4 scum faction is impossible as that would make it impossible for one scum faction to be balanced

[ZZZX]

PV, if there's a kill in my setup, it must be Mala or ZZZX. If Spruce tries to kill, Toasty makes him kill himself. You track Toasty to verify redirect. PM watches me. I heal you.

If Mala is scum, she has to kill PM. If we have two killers, they run into the same trap.

Also a 4 scum faction is impossible as that would make it impossible for one scum faction to be balanced

toasty can redirect to so,eone else makung the track give no result

[Titus]

He can't redirect and kill though I believe.

[Malakittens]

PV isn't the tracker. That's PM.

I was talking to Peng about things last night but we both had work early so we ended up sleeping and not discussing furher

[Titus]

I thought PV tracked and PM watched?

Mod: Can scum kill and use any hypothetical abilities they have?

Just to put thatbullshit to rest.


Mala, please discuss my plan as if I heal the tracker.

[ZZZX]

thats if there is one scum Nd not a third party etc

[PeregrineV]

PV, if there's a kill in my setup, it must be Mala or ZZZX. If Spruce tries to kill, Toasty makes him kill himself. You track Toasty to verify redirect. PM watches me. I heal you.

If Mala is scum, she has to kill PM. If we have two killers, they run into the same trap.

Also a 4 scum faction is impossible as that would make it impossible for one scum faction to be balanced

Spruce commutes
Toasty redirects Spruce to Spruce
PMyst tracks Toasty
I watch PMyst
You doc me.
ZZZX BPs

If spruce is scum, he kills himself or skips killing.
If Turkish is scum, she kills (you or Toasty).

Who is the lynch for today?

[PeregrineV]

thats if there is one scum Nd not a third party etc

You think both teams are dead and there is a backup SK?

[ZZZX]

PV, if there's a kill in my setup, it must be Mala or ZZZX. If Spruce tries to kill, Toasty makes him kill himself. You track Toasty to verify redirect. PM watches me. I heal you.

If Mala is scum, she has to kill PM. If we have two killers, they run into the same trap.

Also a 4 scum faction is impossible as that would make it impossible for one scum faction to be balanced

Spruce commutes
Toasty redirects Spruce to Spruce
PMyst tracks Toasty
I watch PMyst
You doc me.
ZZZX BPs

If spruce is scum, he kills himself or skips killing.
If Turkish is scum, she kills (you or Toasty).

Who is the lynch for today?

This looks good for me.


p-edit: I don't see any hints to a third from either team's post (their reactions with each others is unique to each others only).

Weather that is true? Idk.

[PeregrineV]

@ZZZX- you forgot the "who to lynch?" part.

And if 2 left, that's a red and blue. Who are they?

[Titus]

That would leave Mala as the lynch bc she doesn't do anything or ZZZX who lies and says he bps with no oversight.

I would rather lynch ZZZX as a)I don't trust him b) Mala has a cop inno and I am pretty sure it's 3 v 3 c) If scum kill me, Mala can heal tomorrow.

If ZZZX flips town (which I doubt) then Spruce and Toasty have to be the scums. Mala would be confirmed inno.