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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:41 am

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And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:41 am

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The Bulge wrote:I know how you play. I've played with you before and I've read some of your games. I get that you're trying to get me to slip up or contradict myself. But you know what? Chances are, I will. That doesn't make me scum, that makes me HUMAN.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:41 am

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VOTE: The bulge This vote is better
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:44 am

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Metal Sonic wrote:okay, it's time to bring the shredder

VOTE: the bulge

kuribo, if you are an expert scumhunter as you so claim, and your reputation implies, you should understand what i'm trying to do

i think we can make good partners

lets do this


I get that and I'll help you with it, but I want Friday first

His blood is my top priority right now
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:45 am

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Bulge, what would be your strategy as scum in this setup?
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:45 am

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Fuckin shit

unvote vote the bulge
this looks awful and defensive. Not trying to scumhunt, just tryin to post and not get voted.

Tbone what the fuck are you doing,
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:48 am

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Day 1

Banakai ( 1 )
Aegor
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(L - 8 )

DrippingGoofball ( 1 )
farside22
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INAUFTA ( 2 )
DrippingGoofball
T-Bone
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Metal Sonic ( 1 )
kanyeknowsbest
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Prof Fridays ( 2 )
The Bulge
kuribo
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T-bone ( 1 )
Prof Fridays
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The Bulge ( 6 )
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Banakai
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Untrod Tripod ( 1 )
Rob13
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No Lynch ( 0 )
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Not Voting ( 1 )
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Needed to Lynch [ 9 ]


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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:51 am

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kuribo wrote:And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all

I never said you rely on meta. I meant it's easy for people to get an immediate town-read on you because you can come into any game with guns blazing ready to hunt scum. Basically I'm just bitching about that fact that I suck at this game and don't understand how people can get town reads on them so easily just by playing how they always play.

Pedit - I've never played anything like this setup before, but bear with me. In regular games, I play scum more confidently. Obviously it helps that I know for sure if my reads are good or not.
In this setup, I think honestly the best course of action for someone of my level of skill is to fuck shit up during the day but always make sure there was someone scummier. Then my inevitable flee wouldn't point anything to my partner, because everybody would have expected me to flee anyway. This isn't what I would go into the game thinking, but realistically I think it's what would happen.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:54 am

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Actually, new plan, stay with me on this because I may very well understand strategy in this setup better than anyone

vote: The Bulge


That's L-2, free town cred for the next person on his wagon, any takers?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:55 am

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Untrod Tripod wrote:Fuckin shit

unvote vote the bulge
this looks awful and defensive. Not trying to scumhunt, just tryin to post and not get voted.

Tbone what the fuck are you doing,

I hate blaming playstyle because it's such a scapegoat, but honestly this is something I have huge problems with as town and always have. I joined this game in hopes of improving my abilities (look at me improving!) and learning how to play without acting under the impression that I'm going to be mislynched no matter what (although this is usually the case...)
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:59 am

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The Bulge wrote:
kuribo wrote:And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all

I never said you rely on meta. I meant it's easy for people to get an immediate town-read on you because you can come into any game with guns blazing ready to hunt scum. Basically I'm just bitching about that fact that I suck at this game and don't understand how people can get town reads on them so easily just by playing how they always play.

Pedit - I've never played anything like this setup before, but bear with me.
In regular games, I play scum more confidently
. Obviously it helps that I know for sure if my reads are good or not.
In this setup,
I think honestly the best course of action for someone of my level of skill is to fuck shit up during the day
but always make sure there was someone scummier. Then my inevitable flee wouldn't point anything to my partner, because everybody would have expected me to flee anyway. This isn't what I would go into the game thinking, but realistically I think it's what would happen.


This screams scum to me, first of all it sounds more like it is written from mafia point of view than town, until the last sentence, although I don't know how mafia could fuck up bad enough to basically say they are mafia, but he is acting nervous enough. If he was town he should say "In regular games I play scum confidently", the keyword is "more". He is basically saying that he is playing scum.

In the second sentence, again it doesn't sound like town,it doesn't mention that that would be the best mafia strategy. not to mention "Fucking shit up during the day" is exactly what he is doing now.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:01 am

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kuribo wrote:Ok sonic, you can be town. You figure out Kanye for me and I'll figure out DGB for you



i've only played 1 game with kayne before, he was scum and i was town. it was ~ a year ago, i barely remember the game. it probably doesnt make a difference if you hunted him or i hunted him. unless you have a bit of trouble figuring out because of the type of player he is, "jokey, lolposter", then i could help you with that. just disclaimer: that i have bad meta on him and i dont know kayne very well.

hunting dgb is like hunting mastin for me. i've played more games with DGB and she s a very enjoyable/memorable character so i daresay i have more confidence reading her than kayne. like mastin, there's no way you can say "Im 100% you are scum" or "100% town", but the method is there.


i really think we should work together cause i don't like this plan of splitting up, okay? although you might be able to read dgb better than i can, i can still deal with these type of players fairly well; as for kayne we're pretty much on the same ground anyway
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:03 am

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just want to remind you all that if scum lolhammers, he can probably flee + end day early, so everyone be careful with the votecounts
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:04 am

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Metal sonic doing weird buddy shit with kuribo noted

Also bulge could mean he plays more confidently as scum than town in normal games, but it sounds awkward if he is trying to say that and, judging by how nervous he is acting I wouldn't doubt it if he just said he just scum slipped.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:04 am

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Metal Sonic wrote:
just want to remind you all that if scum lolhammers, he can probably flee + end day early, so everyone be careful with the votecounts

God dammit, sonic. :/
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:04 am

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i dont care what you note, sir.

IN THE SECOND FORTNIGHT,. WE NOTE YOU!
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:05 am

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Ok sonic, we can team up. we both know if I start finding you scummy I'll turn on you like a dog anyway lol

What do you think of bulge's defense against my assault? I have thoughts about it but I'm waiting for something else right now

PEdit: right, we don't want the day to end early either because you get no associative tells after it turns into a free for all
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:06 am

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I mean if he just scum slipped, not said he scum slipped
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:06 am

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kuribo wrote:Ok sonic, we can team up. we both know if I start finding you scummy I'll turn on you like a dog anyway lol

What do you think of bulge's defense against my assault? I have thoughts about it but I'm waiting for something else right now



exactly my thoughts. i'm waiting for something as well, but im not sure if we are waiting for the same thing.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:07 am

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kuribo wrote:And if you think I rely exclusively on meta to do anything then you really don't know my play after all

I never said you rely on meta. I meant it's easy for people to get an immediate town-read on you because you can come into any game with guns blazing ready to hunt scum. Basically I'm just bitching about that fact that I suck at this game and don't understand how people can get town reads on them so easily just by playing how they always play.

Pedit - I've never played anything like this setup before, but bear with me.
In regular games, I play scum more confidently
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I think honestly the best course of action for someone of my level of skill is to fuck shit up during the day
but always make sure there was someone scummier. Then my inevitable flee wouldn't point anything to my partner, because everybody would have expected me to flee anyway. This isn't what I would go into the game thinking, but realistically I think it's what would happen.


This screams scum to me, first of all it sounds more like it is written from mafia point of view than town, until the last sentence, although I don't know how mafia could fuck up bad enough to basically say they are mafia, but he is acting nervous enough. If he was town he should say "In regular games I play scum confidently", the keyword is "more". He is basically saying that he is playing scum.

In the second sentence, again it doesn't sound like town,it doesn't mention that that would be the best mafia strategy. not to mention "Fucking shit up during the day" is exactly what he is doing now.

Here let me help.

1) read "I am more confident at scum than I am at town."

2) kuribo didn't ask for the best strategy. If I knew the best strategy for anything, I'd be good at this. He asked how I would do it. I answered honestly.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:07 am

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The bribe rule was pretty obviously added because in the first fortnight, town discussed circle voting in opposition to their wincons to prevent a scum win

Publicly I supported it, privately I complained to the mod at the time.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:08 am

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i missed the first fortnight, no idea about that
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:09 am

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the thing about this game,

there is definitely a winner.

but odds are it isn't you.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:11 am

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Metal Sonic wrote:i missed the first fortnight, no idea about that


I was scum with Benmage in the first one

We cross bussed heavily and we had to flee him because he decided trolling the town was the best way to win a setup where ONE ACCUSATION COSTS YOU THE GAME

god dammit I'm still bitter about that
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:12 am

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what happened to circlevoter?
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