X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[Rogue]

Also I want proof of your lynchbait claim

pedit-

Just because we aren't lynching him doesn't mean I can't try to feel better about my stance.

pedit2-

muffinwall I'm waiting to read

[borkjerfkin]

Just because we aren't lynching him doesn't mean I can't try to feel better about my stance.

as long as we're clear on this because I want a zero percent chance we get two nights in a row here.

[Rogue]

Attention: If you are a vig and shoot anyone excluding Snowstorm tonight, a claim will be a scumclaim.

[Speaker for the Dead]

I don't think there is anything wrong with this post.

(A quick ISO showed he posted it in 2 other games, but even if he hadn't...?)

mollie had some issue with the timing of it after recent absence, i told her it probably isn't relevant.

[Feu et Vol]

If we are going to lynch Titus, we need to decide what groups are going to be on the wagon and in what positioning. I don't think it possible for my group to take the wagon for either objective since Scum Titus isn't going to self-vote and help us get the objectives.

I suggest my group not even be on the wagon at all since we would be taking up space from another group.

-Beast

[ika]

@bork, i dont know where you got off on being "WE DONT LYNCH HIM B/C ROLE" but i dont give a damn, if i want to lynch him next day i will

[borkjerfkin]

@bork, i dont know where you got off on being "WE DONT LYNCH HIM B/C ROLE" but i dont give a damn, if i want to lynch him next day i will

Risk management. If he turns up dead from a vig you get all the good stuff from having him flip without any of the bad stuff from 'potential beloved princess'.

[ika]

Also the fact that this game is rivaling other games that are on day 5 and 8 in pages is sad and mildly amusing at the same time

p-edit: i know that but what if we have no vig and its some fake claim? I mean heck, its an easy claim to coast as scum.

and as i already stated, he should of just claimed that right from start

[borkjerfkin]

p-edit: i know that but what if we have no vig and its some fake claim? I mean heck, its an easy claim to coast as scum.

This is why you don't lynch him Day 1, which is what I am advocating we don't do. A vig is likely to kill him if he does exist and then the conversation is moot and we don't lose a day. I'm not saying don't lynch him

ever

, especially if we end up with evidence of no vig (although that would be a fucking huge dick move in a game with a legitimate beloved princess)

[borkjerfkin]

and as i already stated, he should of just claimed that right from start

I agree, for what it's worth, but it's not a common enough role that I think there's a common knowledge best practice for it.

[ika]

@bork, thats fine.

i misunderstood when you were shouting DONT LYNCH DONT LYNCH

i took it as "dont lynch ever" but whatever

[borkjerfkin]

fair enough;

my official stance is 'hope he's dead or the game ends in town win before we ever have to deal with him, and policy lynch late game (pre-lylo obviously) if the gamestate dictates it.'

[Majiffy]

Bork the mollie head is an uncooperative townread. The muffin head is where I get all the scum feels.

[borkjerfkin]

You're campaigning on them awfully hard for a conflicted read.

[Majiffy]

Mollie townread is relatively recent.

And I would disagree with the campaigning bit.

[borkjerfkin]

Well

I'm just looking at shit like this

Now if we could go back to lynching the MollieMuffin that'd be great.

Which is from like yesterday

[Nero Cain]

I think Storm is town, if there are enough folks worried about that claim and a vig shoots it then meh but I think its town maybe SKOT was bussing but I'm not convinced.

[borkjerfkin]

I mean yes shit changes over time but I need to know what is going on with this read without it being drowned in a Bubba-Yiley-Hiplop-esque tunnel with muffin

you know the kind i mean

p-edit: @jiffy

[Majiffy]

Well

I'm just looking at shit like this

Now if we could go back to lynching the MollieMuffin that'd be great.

Which is from like yesterday

Had a talk with mollie after that

[borkjerfkin]

I see 2701 and 2754 - is that what you mean?

[Majiffy]

Link please

[borkjerfkin]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6047002

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6047283

FWIW, your 2754 does jive with your 3014.

[Ultimate Life Form]

this game needs counselling


lets end day 1 so the rest of the game will be a breeze

like xenoblade, xenogears and xenosaga.

day 1: tons of bs

remaining days: quick and fast

VOTE: titus

you and your bullshit 'evidence'

[SnowStorm]

Snowstorm, give me a case why you're town.

-I'm being attacked by scum, which I can tell by knowing the points made against me are false and are being presented as if they had any validity. It's all show and no substance.

1. Does town never present "false" claims? Do all reads stemming from town have "substance"? Do you think all scum would stance themselves around you the same way? ie, do you think multiple scum chose you to push without substance in their reads.

-I've been making my own reads and I do so by thinking for myself and evaluating the people's motivations behind their words and actions. I'm not just randomly calling people town or scum for no reason.

2. Full reads list please. I'm talking full. I want precise reasons you feel certain ways about people.

-My own words and actions are made with my win condition in mind, which is to eliminate all threats to town, as per my role PM.

3. If anyone was playing without this (being a wincon) in their mind they would be evicted from the game. So.

1. Yes, town can present false claims. No, not all reads from town have substance. No, I don't think all scum would take the same stance. I don't think I'm being pushed by multiple scum (Though I haven't given much thought to this outside of Jiffy and possibly Titus). See, I don't think you're understanding (not even sure you're trying). I'm not saying I'm pushing for scum just because. When I said that I was mostly referring to Jiffy, because he was pushing me based on empty arguments and presenting them as if they were valid. I think Speaker has done a great job explaining why his arguments are so bad/empty, you can check those posts. Now, I can tell those arguments come from scum because Jiffy seems better than that, the way he's making the push denotes a much more experienced and smart player than the contents of the push. Those arguments are something I'd expect from some new player who learned some cool words and expressions in a previous game.

2.
Town
Speaker for the Dead - They're my Jesus.
My Milked Eek - I found them pretty towny at the start when they were up for the lynch.
borkjerfkin - I'm just going to trust everyone else and call him town. Also don't remember anything that could make me lean the other way.
Toogeloo - Still think he's more likely to be town from his objective fuck up.
RubikAshtray - I think he looked town when he was posting at the beginning of the game.
Venmar - Looked genuine.
Nero Cain - Weak town. I think his play still fits with the town play I experienced in the game we played together but I'm not ready to give a full town read on him, because I'm not familiar with his scum game and I don't want to take risks with this read.
Brian Skies - Weak town. Idk, I kinda liked his posts, but I'd be more comfortable if he posted more.
ika - Too bad to be scum? I also remember liking his unusual approach at the start.

Null
Clusk92 - not enough content.
Macaronis and Cheese - I have not reached a conclusive read on this slot and I haven't looked much into them. But I'm more leaning scum than town.
Rogue - Still haven't given much thought to this slot either. I'd say I'm leaning town.
Ultimate Life Form - Needs more content. I feel his posts have been too superficial. There's a lack of interest, engagment and thought. I'm leaning scum.
Sharpest-knife-on-tree - Dunno.
PeregrineV - As null as it gets.
Titus - I can't even...

Scum
Cloud Nine - Eh, I don't really like they're early content and they haven't done anything since then. Weak scum read, almost put it in the null pile.
Majiffy - Strong scum read, debated to death.

3. The fact that I haven't been evicted from the game should tell you something then.

[Majiffy]

Thats a good part of it

@ bork