X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[Ultimate Life Form]

no way we're testing a beloved princess claim. i dont believe it myself, but its a bomb threat, we're on day 1, and thers no need to hurry stuff when it can be dealt with in a safer manner

[Majiffy]

Up in 2 hrs for work.

Gnight

[Feu et Vol]

Snowstorm, give me a case why you're town.

-I'm being attacked by scum, which I can tell by knowing the points made against me are false and are being presented as if they had any validity. It's all show and no substance.

1. Does town never present "false" claims? Do all reads stemming from town have "substance"? Do you think all scum would stance themselves around you the same way? ie, do you think multiple scum chose you to push without substance in their reads.

-I've been making my own reads and I do so by thinking for myself and evaluating the people's motivations behind their words and actions. I'm not just randomly calling people town or scum for no reason.

2. Full reads list please. I'm talking full. I want precise reasons you feel certain ways about people.

-My own words and actions are made with my win condition in mind, which is to eliminate all threats to town, as per my role PM.

3. If anyone was playing without this (being a wincon) in their mind they would be evicted from the game. So.

1. Yes, town can present false claims. No, not all reads from town have substance. No, I don't think all scum would take the same stance. I don't think I'm being pushed by multiple scum (Though I haven't given much thought to this outside of Jiffy and possibly Titus). See, I don't think you're understanding (not even sure you're trying). I'm not saying I'm pushing for scum just because. When I said that I was mostly referring to Jiffy, because he was pushing me based on empty arguments and presenting them as if they were valid. I think Speaker has done a great job explaining why his arguments are so bad/empty, you can check those posts. Now, I can tell those arguments come from scum because Jiffy seems better than that, the way he's making the push denotes a much more experienced and smart player than the contents of the push. Those arguments are something I'd expect from some new player who learned some cool words and expressions in a previous game.

2.
Town
Speaker for the Dead - They're my Jesus.
My Milked Eek - I found them pretty towny at the start when they were up for the lynch.
borkjerfkin - I'm just going to trust everyone else and call him town. Also don't remember anything that could make me lean the other way.
Toogeloo - Still think he's more likely to be town from his objective fuck up.
RubikAshtray - I think he looked town when he was posting at the beginning of the game.
Venmar - Looked genuine.
Nero Cain - Weak town. I think his play still fits with the town play I experienced in the game we played together but I'm not ready to give a full town read on him, because I'm not familiar with his scum game and I don't want to take risks with this read.
Brian Skies - Weak town. Idk, I kinda liked his posts, but I'd be more comfortable if he posted more.
ika - Too bad to be scum? I also remember liking his unusual approach at the start.

Null
Clusk92 - not enough content.
Macaronis and Cheese - I have not reached a conclusive read on this slot and I haven't looked much into them. But I'm more leaning scum than town.
Rogue - Still haven't given much thought to this slot either. I'd say I'm leaning town.
Ultimate Life Form - Needs more content. I feel his posts have been too superficial. There's a lack of interest, engagment and thought. I'm leaning scum.
Sharpest-knife-on-tree - Dunno.
PeregrineV - As null as it gets.
Titus - I can't even...

Scum
Cloud Nine - Eh, I don't really like they're early content and they haven't done anything since then. Weak scum read, almost put it in the null pile.
Majiffy - Strong scum read, debated to death.

3. The fact that I haven't been evicted from the game should tell you something then.

Care to explain how you somehow missed me in your reads list?

-Beast

[SnowStorm]

Also I want proof of your lynchbait claim

That is hard to prove and I don't know what will accomplish. Most of my complete games are off site and either unaccessible or unreadable, but you can have a look at the games I've completed here. NY 172 could be insightful. It is my most recent game (not counting my last one where I replaced into a hydra), and I was pushed by scum in a manner that is similar to the way Majiffy was pushing me. Nero, Peregrine and mastin played in this game.

Attention: If you are a vig and shoot anyone excluding Snowstorm tonight, a claim will be a scumclaim.

If I'm going to die by the hands of town I'd rather be lynched, that way you get the punishment for your sucky reads.

p-edit: i know that but what if we have no vig and its some fake claim? I mean heck, its an easy claim to coast as scum.

and as i already stated, he should of just claimed that right from start

I'm not familiar with this role. It's the first time I have it and the first time I'm seeing it in a game. I thought about claiming at the beginning but I thought it would be better to claim later, that way I could compare player stances before and after the claim. Like, I didn't expect scum to keep pushing for my lynch after it, as it would be seen as an obvious scum move, but I'd expect some town or another to keep pushing, like you did. Besides, claiming at the start is no fun.

[borkjerfkin]

If I'm going to die by the hands of town I'd rather be lynched, that way you get the punishment for your sucky reads.

[SnowStorm]

Care to explain how you somehow missed me in your reads list?

-Beast

It's past 5 am and I'm sleepy?

*Town
Feu - They seem genuine. For example, I liked their explanation for their scum read on Titus, which at first appeared to be just another one, but instead they showed to have put some real thought into it. I also don't remember anything that could made me lean scum on them; so they're town for now.

[SnowStorm]

If I'm going to die by the hands of town I'd rather be lynched, that way you get the punishment for your sucky reads.

My head is a mess right now. On one hand I want to lynch Jiffy and his buddies and win this game, but on the other hand... I just want to watch this town crash and burn, especially if Titus is part of it.

[borkjerfkin]

You'll forgive me if I feel that your endorsement of the latter at a time when figuring your alignment is paramount is somewhat counterproductive if you're town?

[Ultimate Life Form]

If I'm going to die by the hands of town I'd rather be lynched, that way you get the punishment for your sucky reads.

but on the other hand... I just want to watch this town crash and burn, especially if Titus is part of it.

then kill yourself.

like, in the game.

not that other thing

if you self-vote the whole town will implode, guaranteed

[Ultimate Life Form]

bork is the towniest

anyone that says otherwise needs a screw in their head or noose around their neck

[ika]

bork is the towniest

anyone that says otherwise needs a screw in their head or noose around their neck

i say otherwise. now where can i get some rope and a screw?

[SnowStorm]

You'll forgive me if I feel that your endorsement of the latter at a time when figuring your alignment is paramount is somewhat counterproductive if you're town?

I forgive you, but I also think you should have figured I'm town already.

[Rogue]

Bork come the fuck on he's pullnig this because he knows you'll hard defend him for it

[Nero Cain]

NS, if Stowstorm flips beloved princess at any point, why should we not lynch you?

[Ultimate Life Form]

because the real scum is you

[Rogue]

Nero, I'm the most blatant fucking town person in this game.

Other people can claim it, but I am the true blood obvtown.

So, lynching me essentially comes down to you all being salty you listened to me and taking your anger out on me.

[Ultimate Life Form]

no bork is the most town

you can be 2nd

[Rogue]

Tales.

Bork's scumgame there was insane.

You know where my scumgame was insane?

OH wait!

[Rogue]

The only person in the same hemisphere of obvtown is tammy

[Rogue]

And if he's really so salty he's willing to play against wincon he should replace out

[Rogue]

*assuing town

[Desperado]

Brian Skies has requested replacement. Looking for replacements for him and Clusk92

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