Open 560: Tit for Tat (Game Over, 4/12 alive)

[notscience]

Scumclaim I see

kthanks

[hephaestus]

You cheeky bugger, you

[Moonlight]

... I'm struggling to find words for this.

Have any of you ever wondered if you've gotten worse at this game or if the whole Town has gone insane or if the Mafia is having a great game?

That's where I'm at. =/

[Moonlight]

Seriously, 2 among 6 of you are scum and I don't have the faintest idea who they are or what neil's gonna flip.

[notscience]

I'm town!

[Not_Mafia]

Scumclaim I see

kthanks

Elaborate

Seriously, 2 among 6 of you are scum and I don't have the faintest idea who they are or what neil's gonna flip.

Did my hammer really give you no clue as to my alignment?

[notscience]

You hammered someone without a claim without everyone caught up because you were bored?

Or you were worried I'd catch up and swing things around

[neil1113]

Not Mafia and Heph is scum. FYI.

I'm a Vanilla Town. Nobody too special. Luckily you didn't kill a PR, just a VT. How the hell did my wagon even really get off the ground?

*sigh*.

Alrighty, peace out guys.

[Moonlight]

Did my hammer really give you no clue as to my alignment?

The first thought I had was "Okay, N_M is obvscum". Second thought: "But wait, haven't I been in this place before? Haven't I been confident about something only to be disproven in the end and question my understanding of how the human mind works?".

Third thought: "For all I know, N_M may be honest. I know... nothing."

And after that, my mind examines all possibilities. Yes, all, as if we're in a multiverse where X and Y are scum and each separate universe is plausible.

I'm weird.

[uctriton00]

Vote Count 3.2

hephaestus (0) =
insanity018 (0) =
Malakittens (0) =
Moonlight (0) =
notscience (0) =
neil1113 (3) = hephaestus Malakittens Moonlight
Not_Mafia (0) =

Not voting = insanity018 notscience neil1113 Not_Mafia

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is on August 4, 3pm, or in (expired on 2014-08-04 15:00:00).

The men were all trekking through the desert, trying to find help. They had lost xfd in a hole the other night, and let notscience's pet spider help try to dig him out.

Tat Stevens stopped his battered party along the way. "Ok, let's regroup. Earlier, we all brought things, right? Here's what we have:"

- Pipe
- Marijuana
- Cocaine
- Killing Gun
- 2 mobile phones
- Tent
- Riddleton's Wallet
- Nintendo 3DS
- Water canteen (empty)
- Flare gun
- Card counting book

Tat laid out everything on the floor. "Ok guys, here is our goal. We are going to get to Las Vegas, it's about 20 miles away. We need to get there, it's the only place of civilization, and then we will figure everything out when we arrive. Got it?" The party of notscience, neil, and Not_Mafia all nodded in unison. The inventory was consolidated into Tat's large bacpack. "These are all the things we have to survive. Let's use everything wisely."

A few hours later, the sun began to set. It was 6pm.

"We need to focus on food, and shelter for the night. Or anything else you may think of." Tat opened up the backpack to everyone.

neil1113, Not_Mafia, notscience
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[Not_Mafia]

This is boring

Vote: Neil

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I liked Mala and NS's reactions. Moonlight and Neil reactions less so

Did my hammer really give you no clue as to my alignment?

The first thought I had was "Okay, N_M is obvscum". Second thought: "But wait, haven't I been in this place before? Haven't I been confident about something only to be disproven in the end and question my understanding of how the human mind works?".

Third thought: "For all I know, N_M may be honest. I know... nothing."

And after that, my mind examines all possibilities. Yes, all, as if we're in a multiverse where X and Y are scum and each separate universe is plausible.

I'm weird.

A lot of things are possible but why would I ever quickhammer like that as town?

VOTE: Moonlight

[hephaestus]

Hahahaha holy shit

[Not_Mafia]

Not Mafia and Heph is scum. FYI.

I'm a Vanilla Town. Nobody too special. Luckily you didn't kill a PR, just a VT. How the hell did my wagon even really get off the ground?

*sigh*.

Alrighty, peace out guys.

He claimed Back-up role cop and is yet to be CC'd so what makes you so sure he is scum?

[Moonlight]

A lot of things are possible but why would I ever quickhammer like that as town?

Because for all I know you

could

have been bored and not cared.

See, your reaction test now screams Town to me. I had not even considered that the hammer may not count, yet the quick conclusion that you're scum also felt wrong.

I don't care if you don't "like" my reaction, but why do you think it means I'm scum? Or is that another reaction test?

[insanity018]

Wow. Not_Mafia is almost assuredly town.

But I'm just wondering whether you thought Moonlight's reaction was scummier than Neil's or because you didn't want to (actually) vote for Neil due to L-1?

[Not_Mafia]

Neil could just be apathy, it's more his Heph read despite the claim worrying me

[insanity018]

I don't really think that it is Moonlight though. What do you think of her interactions with the Elmo wagon in Day 2?

[Not_Mafia]

I'll have a look later. Motivation to do any sort of re-read for this game is low

[Moonlight]

The problem with this game is that I have reason to townread each and every one of you.

hephaestus has claimed without a CC.

insanity had a good chance to capitalize on neil going after me, but the caution she showed seemed towny. Being the counterwagon to Elmo is also in her favor.

Mala I've townread almost the whole game and I like how she keeps pestering notty.

notty I townread because of TSO.

neil tested me and claimed VT when he thought he was a goner. If he was scum, I'd have expected him to claim JK to out the real one.

N_M's test also looks Town as fuck.

[Malakittens]

Wow. Not_Mafia is almost assuredly town.

But I'm just wondering whether you thought Moonlight's reaction was scummier than Neil's or because you didn't want to (actually) vote for Neil due to L-1?

This.

N_M is deff town or really good scum move for this.

Idk I still don't like Neil. I can see moonlights argument, but who knows. Some people don't like fake claiming.

@neil: have you ever fake claimed as scum..?

[Not_Mafia]

@Moon Everyone but me thought the lynch had gone through. So why would someone CC in what they thought was twilight?

[neil1113]

Nobody counter claimed Heph for good reason. We'd lose a power role. Although when I think about it, I think a power role for a mafia might actually be worth the counter claim...

I'm not dead? I'm a little confused.

If Heph is who he says he is, then damn. I have no idea who scum is. Not_Mafia hammering me that way, was in no way indicative of town. Hell, if it's not yelling "I'm scum and I know it" then I don't know what is. Especially for someone who's played more than one game (even as scum) like Not_Mafia.

Seeing as Not_Mafia didn't hammer me, or was gambiting or whatever he wants to call it... my read on him is blurry. And actually, I'm looking back at Moon's response toward me challenging him (granted it was a terrible case) and realizing, there was a lot of paranoia in his posts. It reads to me almost like scum caught for the wrong reasons, more than town astonished that someone is pushing a bad case. Perhaps that's just the way I'm reading it.

I have no one I want to vote for right now without another read through of the last few pages, because I'm stumped to be quite honest.

[Moonlight]

@Moon Everyone but me thought the lynch had gone through. So why would someone CC in what they thought was twilight?

Who said anything about a CC?

Example: X is scum, fakeclaims a power role in twilight. Y, a VT, believes it and shows it with his next post. Now the Mafia know that Y's not that role.

I don't see any benefit in claiming VT as scum after a hammer.

[Malakittens]

N_m didn't hammer you though because he vote was invalid. He did the tags wrong so frankly it was a reaction test.

Neil answer my question. Have you ever fake claimed as scum.

To be fair it wouldn't be in scum power to claim the Back up Role cop. As scum's role cop is currently activated and their jail keeper was deactivated because the town JK is still alive.

I don't see any benefit of scum claiming a PR as in twilight as the real pr wouldn't be stupid to cC then.

[notscience]

Wow. Not_Mafia is almost assuredly town.

But I'm just wondering whether you thought Moonlight's reaction was scummier than Neil's or because you didn't want to (actually) vote for Neil due to L-1?

This.

N_M is deff town or really good scum move for this.

Idk I still don't like Neil. I can see moonlights argument, but who knows. Some people don't like fake claiming.

but now I really like ns and I realize he was just being lazy yesterday and doesn't have a scum role pm

@neil: have you ever fake claimed as scum..?

ftfy