Mini 1585: Muskoka Murder Mystery - Game Over

[Guyett]

I'm fine with a Konowa lynch.

Hopefully he'll flip scum but if he doesn't the VC analysis will be amazing

[Guyett]

VOTE: Konowa

Forgot this, sorry bit stressed from RL stuff

[startfromtheheart]

VOTE: https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... wr2XmJ33B9

[startfromtheheart]

Mobile ughhhh

VOTE: konowa

Lynch -1

[startfromtheheart]

Hold me back bro!!!

[Konowa]

If town is going to use one of it's two remaining mislynches before lylo it's probably better to do it todays anyways. That way scum can't pull the paranoia card that Anen is reaching for now tomorrow.

Don't let chaos breeze through on his claim. His play has been scum since D1.
I had written Boonskiies off as noob town, but Cheery's has been off.
Anen's play lately is starting to come off as scummier. The paranoia "Why isn't Konowa dead?" talk just looks like he is trying to setup a mislynch for later.
Anti is likely town due to D1 voting.
Bert/EPM/Guy are town.

[Aneninen]

I'm trying to catch up as soon as I can. I've been working since my last post, please be patient.

[startfromtheheart]

The more I read the more I want Pacman and Guyett lynched.

Am I paranoid or what? Reading at a cafe for an hour still going on

[startfromtheheart]

I feel like every wagon today is off.

UNVOTE:

[startfromtheheart]

Just kidding

VOTE: Konowa

Need wagon pressure as there isn't any

[Aneninen]

UNVOTE: – There will be another post soon.

[Aneninen]

So, in short.

I really don't understand why some of you think that I may be a scum. I've already explained everything about the changes in my gameplay recently.

But, you're interested in my vote.

I still think Chaos is a bit scummier than Konowa. But, if we do the wrong thing and end up with a mislynch, losing a Miller is much less worse than losing a Tracker. And I disliked Konowa's last post. The "why isn't Konowa dead" is not a paranoia, it's a real question. Or at least, if I were scum I'd lynch a player who's confirmed town. (In that case I would know that Konowa's claim is real.) I have got no real answer for that.

It's L–1 isn't it?
Well, you can all call me an idiot, but

intent to hammer, Konowa!

[Konowa]

Last two scum are in {chaos, Cheery, Anen}, Bert. Probably chaos and Anen, but that would mean that they both bussed Chevre late D1 so take that for what it is worth. Anen's last post pretty much seals that for me. EPM is likely town due to the way the wagons went D1. Guy has been obvtown all game.

Anen, that's not a real question though. It's Bordeaux bullshit. As scum of course you would know my alignment, so by going "Oh nooo! Why isn't he [Konowa] dead?" comes across as paranoia so you can try and mislynch me. Is that why I'm still alive? Probably.

[BipolarChemist]

Official Vote Count

Konowa (4):

evilpacman18, chaoslord54, Guyett, startfromtheheart, [L-1]

BroodKingEXE (1):

Cheery Dog

chaoslord54 (1):

Konowa

startfromtheheart (1):

BroodKingEXE

Not Voting

: Antihero, Aneninen

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Time Till Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-04 16:00:00)

[startfromtheheart]

I really think Anen's language barrier is tripping our alarms. I was thinking of unvoting you Konowa, but your last posts are brimming with vocally proclaiming you're the perfect "target" for scum and that that's why you're alive still. The problem is your push for an alternative (in chaos) is someone who can proclaim him/herself the perfect "target" for scum as well.

but that would mean that they both bussed Chevre late D1 so take that for what it is worth.

the picture is completely different when there is no reliable counterwagon in sight.

[startfromtheheart]

Bert can you just trust me that Annnn is town and go back to voting Konowa? That was good.

my current instinct is this evilpacman is a townie just like phokdapolees-town. I am trying to develop townreads on people at the moment. I believe that Anen's alarm-tripping is a product of the language barrier. Also, his votes show a kind of non-binding attitude, as if actually trying to figure things out.

TOWN LIST (in progress):

Anen, evilpacman

And yes, I'm starting to feel a little normal so I'm actually talking

[startfromtheheart]

don't like how you're voting for me over Chaos at this point though, given what you've suggested about Chaos it feels like he's confirmed scum to you. To me it feels like you're still sheeping wagons.

This is a really cheesy reason to revote me. Explain why a lynch on me would help the town, while a lynch on others wouldn't.

I think you've been slightly better than Misaka for most of the game, but I just don't like how your apathy has caused you to be so cautious/not willing to stick your neck out.

there are people who vote based on people's playstyle. that's what you're doing with your suspicions of me which apply to most players who have been lazy or haven't contributed much. Other than "sheeping wagons" - which is a broad term since any wagon that takes off must have enough sheepers... how are you voting me based on my intentions rather than my playstyle?

Your reads right now reflect thread sentiments, but offer no actually analysis of your own. I mean even if you are busy, you're gut should be pinging something when you read a post.

How did my reads reflect thread sentiments? Other than not carrying the weight I'm supposed to carry as a player in this game, I did not process and provide real reads.

As of now, I think the town plan should be lynch Bert, lynch Konowa if a cop doesn't claim tomorrow.

Having no cop claim tomorrow (why would a cop want to claim tomorrow?????!???) leads you to believe Konowa's scum? That's really dramatic, and having no cop while having a miller claim isn't as absolutely atrocious as you're framing it to be.

VOTE: Broodking

This is a really poor attempt to try to get me lynched. Way too half-hearted feeling, which is probably why not more people budged and moved their vote to me pre-claim. Also, there is no poignant frustration in your "attack" on me.

[startfromtheheart]

Town: Cheery, Anen, evilpacman

Town but I worry about him with lots of tinfoil: Guyett

This player and his/her claim is giving me mind-games-headaches, so I REALLY don't have an unbiased opinion that I can put my finger on: chaos

Null - Konowa, Antihero

Scum: Broodking

[Cheery Dog]

I made a post in which I explained why it's very, very likely (even if it's not 100% confirmed) that I'm town. This one: 1192.

I will wait for post 1195 to come around so I can see your reads.

Gees, if these happen you'll almost be as good a sage as bert's opening post/list of people.

I think I better attempt to turn my seriousness back into this game.

[Konowa]

I can see how that looks from an outside perspective, Bert. It's just getting frustrating at this point, because you have EPM saying "miller without cop is near bastard modding". Meanwhile, we are playing a normal that has to go through a review, so pretty sure if there were -any- bastard elements it would have been sniffed out then. I feel like people are not taking into consideration chaos' play and judging the two of us based solely on our claims. Perhaps I am too far along the confbias train.

I'm going to eat something and lay out why chaos is scum for the final time so when I flip town it's pretty plain to see.

[Cheery Dog]

I'm trying to catch up as soon as I can. I've been working since my last post, please be patient.

Nope, to much "I need to post, people are suspecting me", I'm not even sure there was anything currently being questioned for you to catch up with. Over the top activity in wanting town read.

UNVOTE: ,VOTE: Aneninen

The more I read the more I want Pacman and Guyett lynched.

Am I paranoid or what? Reading at a cafe for an hour still going on

I'm still happy with a Guyett lynch, I'm not really seeing any epm stuff though.

[Aneninen]

I'm trying to catch up as soon as I can. I've been working since my last post, please be patient.

Nope, to much "I need to post, people are suspecting me", I'm not even sure there was anything currently being questioned for you to catch up with. Over the top activity in wanting town read.

Vote Aneninen

And can you tell me how exactly could I have known without having read the thread whether it had contained anything that I should catch up with?
Sorry to say, your vote s-cks hard.

I think I must repeat this part of a previous post of mine:

I made a post in which I explained why it's very, very likely (even if it's not 100% confirmed) that I'm town. This one: 1192. Noone has expressed any questions or doubts about that post (eg. "your explanation is FoS", "that proves nothing", "there are serious holes in your logic", etc.) so I thought that everyone accepted that my VT claim was real, true, valid. Given that I've thought that my claim was accepted by everyone, my gameplay has changed too.

It seems that not only the linked post but also this latter one were ignored by everyone. Due to this general ignorance it's no surprise that every votes and accusations are FoS-es in my eyes.

[Konowa]

Working on that chaos post.

Anen, your link you posted links to a post from Bert, which you made before Bert posted it. Which is why everyone is ignoring it, probably.

[Konowa]

Like, if you read post #1171 where the initial link is, it links to the OP.

[Aneninen]

Sorry,

1092.

However, it's still strange that noone has responded to the original post. It took place 4 days ago...