[quote="In
post 1095, Aneninen"]So, my reads with marks.
1 – very town
2 – lean town
3 – null, unsorted, unable to read or inconclusive
4 – lean scum
5 – very scum
CheeryDog
(previously Boonskiies)
Towntells: Boon was the first name on the Chevre wagon. Cheery was away from the Misaka wagon. –
No matter what you think, this is still a towntell. A scum could easily join such a quickly-developing wagon without getting too much FoS.
In general, his posts are not essentially scummy.
Stumtells: General inactivity about scumhunting.
This has changed a bit since then.
You had a vote on BroodKing and admitted there is no real case against him. He was the one who started a case against me and ignoring my long posts, which is a typical (3): anti-town attitude. Also, so far the "regardless of" phenomenon is true as well.
Others: It's strange that you haven't even thought that being unaware of the fact my links are not working is a possibility. You know, I simply skimmed over some posts, since I had (and have) very little time. You're thinking that I'm pretending it so as to avoid producing real content. You may or may not believe but I'm not pretending this, I indeed have busy days. You should ISO me and read my posts assuming that I indeed have little time. Your thoughts may change. In spite of everything I think your posts are coming from a paranoid and a bit frustrated town, not a scum.
Answering your question "why did I put Chevre on L–1?": (1) I didn't like that he had chosen "random-looking" posts so as to respond to in his walls. It seemed that he had been pretending scumhunting. (2) I wanted to put some pressure on him and see whether his posting style/content changed.
Mark
: 3–4
BroodkingEXE
Towntells: No change (since my last long read-post)
Scumtells: No change.
Others: I still don't understand the case against him. Is there any?
Mark
: 1
ChaosLord
Towntells: The Tracker claim (if that's real, I've posted about this topic a lot), plus his vote on Chevre Day1. (It would have been silly if he were Chevre's scumpartner.) He started asking questions about my long posts and arguing my reads. He started defending EPM. Since EPM didn't think that Chaos might buddy-ing him it is possible that both of them are town. There were posts about it why they can't be scum together so this is a minor townread on EPM as well. (I think EPM would have "pumped up" Chaos's "soft-defense" somehow so as to protect his a$$ if he were scum.)
Scumtells: I gave an answer for your questions about my scumtells. Check that.
Others: He has been echoing the "Aneninen's latest posts are scummy" song lately. However, echoing =/= starting it. He might be affected by other players – some of these must be interested in taking out me or my thoughts out of the game. So, this attitude is not a real tell though it might change later. Overall, regarding of his latest posts I'm not that sure about his scum-alignment than I had before. This is partly an intuitional read.
Mark
: 3 (I'm still unsure about him.)
EvilPacMan
Towntells: Still not many.
Scumtells: See my previous read-post. His posts still contain very little content.
Others: He seems to be sure about his vote for Konowa. I've already answered why I intended to hammer Konowa. He may be uninterested in the game but may also perform active lurking. I still think he's a possible scum but he's not the first name on my scumlist right now.
mark
: 3–4
Antihero
He's on V/LA, my reads are unchanged.
Mark
: 3
Guyett
Towntells: Pushing and hammering Chevre (regardless of that fake-hammer, I consider it as a null). I still don't understand why he voted on me (PoE?) but his vote for Misaka seems legit (that vote from Misaka in
817 was awkward).
890: I like this (I've realized it just now, ISO-ing everyone.) In general, active scumhunting.
His recent posts are a bit contentless but still not scummy. Also, he pointed out something in my posts (which was silly).
Scumtells: Not many. Maybe the fact that his Vote Analysis-es are long and either uninformative or I don't see the logic in them.
Mark
: 1 (I think he's the strongest townread of mine now.)
Startfromtheheart
Towntells: He may be Bodyguard, according to his claim. but...
Stumtells: Not voting for Chevre! Re-quoting his own random reads make no sense if he's town. He had kept posting (almost) zero content till he got pressurized a bit (...and that wasn't a big pressure!). Than he changed. A Bodyguard claim when we know that we had a Jailkeeper? Plus, performing that claim at a silly moment (revealing a PR when he's way far from lynch?). He admits that he protected Chaos twice? First of all, noone can confirm or "counter" that action. Second, eg. in
870 he posted "Konowa seems town." He voted for Konowa only in
1157. Why didn't he protect Konowa at Night1 or Night2? If Konowa's Miller claim is real he may be a likely target for the Nightkill!
Also, his vote was on Chaos in
1120, on Broodking in
1139, on Konowa in
1157, on me in
1160. Back to Konowa in
1174, back to Broodking in
1191, than me again in
1207. WTF?! It's not only the flip-flopping. He also added many times that "I'm sure about this", "he's 100% scum" and things like that. It seems that he just wants to find a lynchable player regardless of their alignment.
Also, playing the language barrier card against me is a BIG FOS! It would be against the rules to explain it right now but it's FoS in my eyes and being sticked to it is an auto-scum read.
He's picking up small bits so as to boost any weak cases without content but with a big noise. This time I'm his target but as we can see it can change anytime, his khm, "cases" has short lifespans in general. Eg. I was town according to his reads in
1192 scum in
1207 (and he had a scum read on me before...)
Mark
: 5+
Konowa
Towntells: Yes, an instant Miller claim is one of the possible gameplays. (Though, it can be faked of course.) His votes make sense in general.
Scumtells: He ignored my long posts and started to scumread me, but, right after the Chaos wagon seemed to be stopped. Again, no real case against me.
Mark
: 4
I hope I haven't offended you, it's just that I have a gut read on your apathy based on how you've been posting. Dealing with apathy is similar to how I would deal with trolling, both try to get town to ignore them citing emotion as a motivation behind their actions. If you really have been apathetic about the game, I hope you feel better, but my read on you stands. I think 1210 is more of a posting quirk of mine, I actually did think it over a bit because what you were saying about Chaos seemed somewhat legit. Also, I was debating on whether your claim would be tested via NKs anyway, and whether there would be an alternative lynch to you. All this setup speculation has me WIFOMing everything in my head.
