League of Legends (Old)

[Iecerint]

Always mute them. What you need to do is practice enough that you can focus on last-hitting, harassing, and checking for MIAs at the same time. It just takes practice to distribute your attention appropriately. Once you can do that, a lot of the dumb errors you're making will go away.

A good tip that Brandi mentioned about 50 pages ago that I think is really great is to try to look at the minimap on a schedule. For example, look after every cs, or look after every eyeblink.

Also, lose several normals in a row and you'll eventually be placed against other people who make the same mistakes as you, so it's self-correcting. So as long as you don't fall to such low elo that you're with people who don't know what they're doing at all, it'll get better.

[MrZepher]

Mute/ignore people that make you feel like shit (especially the ones that talk shit even when you're doing better than them consistently)

Find a problem that seems to happen a lot, then start doing things to fix the problem.
"I always die to lvl-3 ganks." Ward early and/or try not to shove so hard early.
"I miss CS a lot." Load up that bot game and practice farming with no runes/masteries (never get into the habit of relying on runes/masteries. They modify your play not provide a baseline.)
"I never know whats happening on the map." Devote a whole bunch of games getting into the habit of looking at the minimap. Duo with somebody who can help remind you.

The most important one for me that's helped me the most with this game: Nobody in this thread actually knows what they're talking about. Learn things for yourself or don't learn at all. Everyone's experience/implementation is different. What one person thinks works might not work for another person.

edit:
Also, learn how to draft. One champ pick can drastically change the opportunities that present themselves over the course of a game. The nature of this game until you get into 5queue leaves these decisions up to individuals.
A maokai pick can turn 4 divers into a legit comp. Think of the times your team needed to pick a damage sponge but instead chose a glass canon.
A good champ select can make games drastically easier. That doesn't mean "dictate your team's picks" it means know what you can play to help any given situation.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

thanks for the advice yall. (though, zepher, i dont understand any of what you said in your edit section. Not sure what a "one champ pick" is or "maokai pick can turn 4 divers into a legit comp". or glass cannon. like another language >.<)

my biggest problem is that i die a lot. like a lot a lot. and people get mad at me for feeding. for a little bit i thought maybe i just wasn't good in a certain position, but it is any lane. i think i am just really terrible at this game, specifically on SR. i can never accomplish whatever i'm supposed to do. midlane is probably my best spot but it is difficult to get it.

[Bins]

What level are you?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

22.. :S i should be better at this

[Iecerint]

The "learn how to draft" stuff is not relevant to you because you don't play draft I don't think. For blind pick normals, the equivalent is to pick something that works well with the rest of your team.

A "diver" is a champion who dives into the middle of the enemy team to deal damage. Maokai has lots of abilities that can protect divers while raising their resistances, so he's arguing that you might be more likely to pick a "diver" if you see a Maokai. You play mostly mages, so you don't play any champions like this.

"Glass cannon" means a champion who is extremely vulnerable, but deals a lot of damage. He's saying that you might need to pick a tank if you don't have one on your team.

[Bins]

22.. :S i should be better at this

warning: i get deep

I disagree - everyone is different when they are learning. I was the exact opposite of you... I never died, but I was useless. I didn't kill, I stood so far back I was way underleveled. I also played ONLY bot games until I was level 20ish. My friends would scream at me in skype because I was never in the position TO DIE... or do anything for that matter. At least you're sticking your head out there.

And that's exactly what you should be doing. My friend, when I was learning, always told me that it's okay to die. Dying helps you learn. You die until you realize your limits and you get it in your head that, "Damn, you can't stand Fiddle's ult." or "I shouldn't be this far up in lane." or "Maybe I can't 1v1 Darius as Rengar." You will eventually have things click in your head and you won't die to the same situations over and over.

Even playing normals now (and I've been playing for a while), he tells me that "dying once as support is okay. It helps you realize what we're up against. Just don't do it again." As long as you're learning, well fuck it, die until you get it in your head that that shit kills you.

(of course don't try to die and just YOLO it because Bins said that you'd learn always dying and stuff)

As for the people, I agree. Muting them is the best way to make them stfu.

[Oman]

The trick is deciding what is fair and just criticism and what is crying. The fair criticism will make you grow leaps and bounds, while the crying is worth the mute.

Here is LoL criticism:
"WHY?"
"GG"
"OMFG"

etc.

[animorpherv1]

There's a way to tell what to mute and what to listen to, as well. People like to

complain

. If people are yelling at you because you fucked up their lane, stole a kill, let someone get away, etc, mute them (a lot of the time this comes with verbal abuse/etc.). On the flipside, if someone's saying that you need better map awareness, never buy wards, that you're not being decisive, don't mute(generally) them and try to fix the issue.

[Iecerint]

I doubt etl would feel upset enough to post in this thread if people were telling her to buy wards.

[animorpherv1]

I doubt etl would feel upset enough to post in this thread if people were telling her to buy wards.

I know, but it was more in relation to Panzer's post than ETL's.

Long story short, though - mute anyone who's verbally abusing you. That's got a 95% chance to work 100% of the time.

[RayFrost]

Mute anyone that you don't feel like reading what they have to say to you. Or, if you're me, never mute anybody and just ignore people by force of will / use it to justify your righteous fury that you unleash on the enemy team.

In terms of practice, I always tell people that ask me to keep going hard. If you're dying a lot, then you're learning your limits. Keep going for the things you think you can do and try to think through what happened when it fails. Did you all in the low health vlad but overestimate your burst, which allowed his w to prevent you securing the kill? Did you chase a riven into the brush thinking you could kill her and forget the burst potential of her kit? Did you make a call for dragon but then get initiated on by the enemy team because of a lack of proper ward coverage? These are all things that you can point out to yourself and say "I died for [reasons], let's try not to do that."

Dying is fine as long as you don't keep making the exact same mistake over and over (like going all in when the enemy laner goes all in only to die to the jungler that has already ganked you that same exact way five times). Learn from your mistakes and you learn the limits of your mechanics and your champion(s). If you spend all your time not pushing your limits, you're going to stagnate.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm still practicing Global ults in solo queue just to force myself to get better at map awareness. Shen, Karthus, Soraka... I'm improving though. Picked up a triple with Shen with a good ult

[mykonian]

22.. :S i should be better at this

You aren't bad for a level 22.

Also, practice does make perfect. Making mistakes, esspecially after playing only a couple of weeks now, is

good

. That's the way you learn, trying every silly thing that you think about and playing lots.

[Saki]

The quickest way to get better is to play with better people.
And hope to dear god you learn fast.
(what the chatroom "Platinum vs Silver" does)
(though, never ever visit that chatroom)
(9/10 of the plat players troll and disrespect the silvers and leave without tips)
...and leave me to explain everything

do you guys know how hard it is to provide tips for 5 players only 1 of which you faced in lane?

qq

w.e if they're toxic, raging, or plain immature they're better than you at this game so suck it up and learn from them
and smile deliciously when you see them on the enemy team next game

also, words tend to sound harsher or more caustic in chat than irl
some of those players probably wanted to help you, somewhat

never mute teammates unless it's plain evident that all they want to do is repeat the phrase "fucking [champion name]" and not tell you what you should be doing
most of the time, they will tell you what you should be doing because they're teammates and they want to win, and to win they need to help you
always mute the enemy team because they're never going to tell you what you should be doing
there's a function within options that turns /all chat off



aaaaaand I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet but really, mechanics are a big part of this game too
that's just clicking, csing, autoattacking, managing your mana, dodging skillshots, etc
stuff that's generic and in every game and a crucial part of any player's skillset
and mechanics only really improve with you consciously trying to improve it by playing more games

if you're losing because your mechanics suck, then keep playing and this time concentrate more on those clicks
(people say playing osu! trains your fingers and all and/or practicing cs in a custom match w/o runes or masteries help)
^ that's mostly bullshit though

[Saki]

Also
post-rework Nidalee is hella strong

people were playing her wrong, you can't build her AP anymore
you build triforce
and your lane + early burst is so god damn strong the game is over by the time you finish it

[EspeciallyTheLies]

The majority of verbal lashings i have received (excluding the stupid "USUX GTFO" comments which I ignore) are along the lines of:

OMG STOP FEEDING

U FKN SUCK. DO SOMETHING.

STAY BACK AND DONT FEED

i mean, i realize quickly when i'm not ready to get out there but then the enemy figures out that i am slow and come around looking for me, a lot of times in SR 3 or 4 running through jungle to smush me and the other person in my lane because i am useless.

[animorpherv1]

I'd argue levels 20 - 29 are the most hellish because it's when you start playing with 30s and people who think they're all that.

Happened to me to, ETL. That's stuff you mute.

[PJ.]

The majority of verbal lashings i have received (excluding the stupid "USUX GTFO" comments which I ignore) are along the lines of:

OMG STOP FEEDING

U FKN SUCK. DO SOMETHING.

STAY BACK AND DONT FEED

i mean, i realize quickly when i'm not ready to get out there but then the enemy figures out that i am slow and come around looking for me, a lot of times in SR 3 or 4 running through jungle to smush me and the other person in my lane because i am useless.

Stop feeding is not legitimate criticism. Do something certainly is(albeit, you fucking suck is not necessary). If your team is telling you do something, typically it's because you aren't doing anything(an example when that same criticism is used as crying is when top laner gets caught split pushing while the team backed or something, dies and then scream do something to the entire team). If someone is telling you do something, ask them what you aren't doing. Do you know how many people i see on a regular basis don't autoattack on a regular basis as carry?(some of them are in this thread telling you to mute critics). DO SOMETHING, is totally valid when your ad isn't shooting bullets or anytime that someone isn't using their moves. STAY BACK AND DON'T FEED, is not only legitimate advice but it's not even rude. If you've died in lane 2/3 times(ESPECIALLY A SOLO LANE) you need to park your ass under turret and give up some farm because that guy is gonna try and kill you 3-4 more times. Hell, If I kill my laner more than twice in lane, i stop trying to break the turret if my team is winning the other lanes, cause I have 200 gold walking into me every minute or so.

PS, ZEPHER SO SALTY LOLO

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

The most important one for me that's helped me the most with this game: Nobody in this thread actually knows what they're talking about. Learn things for yourself or don't learn at all. Everyone's experience/implementation is different. What one person thinks works might not work for another person.

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[EspeciallyTheLies]

die 2 or 3 times is a lot?

oh man

[Iecerint]

After you die twice, the enemy laner has a huge xp/gold/item advantage on you and you will not kill them again without significant jungle help or a 1-for-1 tower dive, so that's when you just sit in minion XP range and only cs under your tower and ping wildly when they leave the lane to kill your allies.

You may even have to give up your tower to avoid dying again, which is totally find (as they'll take your tower if they kill you for free, anyway).

When you're behind, you have to learn to play differently and let your allies carry. Your win condition kind of shifts to "keep my opponent from carrying their team before the Jax top (or whatever) can carry our team." You don't really learn this in ARAM because it isn't really much of an option in ARAM.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Uh, not quite.

Dying two or three times early on means that you have very, very, very little power to prevent things from going way way WAAAAAY out of hand and ending up with six or seven deaths before you group.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

After you die twice, the enemy laner has a huge xp/gold/item advantage on you and you will not kill them again without significant jungle help or a 1-for-1 tower dive

I didn't know this. I had no idea!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Technically speaking, if you're dying at all it's a "mistake". The concept is that in a perfect world, you are the cause of 99.9% of your own deaths, and deaths are always bad.

In the real world, no one has zero deaths every game. It's a matter of perspective. 2 to 3 deaths over the course of a 30-40 minute game? Sure, you made some mistakes, but that's workable.

2-3 deaths in the first 10 minutes of the game is still workable, but definitely worse. Like Panzer said, hug your tower, play safe, don't give them any more kills. Or if you feel strong enough, rotate to another lane and try to make a play there. Your lane is essentially over. Depending on the champion, it's very likely you'll never be able to deal with them 1 on 1 again. So your best chance is to try and make an impact on another lane, or learn to farm effectively under tower.

Finally, every death should be a learning experience. If we accept the concept that, no matter how well you played, there is always something minute you could have done on a play to prevent you from dying, then your deaths are actually the best teachers. Record your games, watch them back later, and see what you think went wrong, and what you can implement to improve! It does help.
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On the topic of muting in game, I'm of the opinion it has to do as much with you as it does them. Are their comments bothering you to the point where you can't play? Is it getting an emotional rise out of you? Mute them. Your only goal is to win the game, and your teammates are supposed to help you. If there's a facet of their play that doesn't (their communication) then remove that facet and work with them as well as you can through pings.

On the other hand, if you're not bothered by the person yelling at you, just ignore them and keep playing. Leaving them off mute could be useful for communication later, plus once they calm down, they might actually turn out to have advice you can use (rare, but happens).