League of Legends (Old)

[PJ.]

Zito could easily get there, he doesn't play solo queue esp if he voice chatted with his adc every game. He has a very high level of understanding of bot lane and walk even novice carries through lane enough to get through the game without anyone too far behind.

[RayFrost]

Panzy, panzy.

Didn't we agree not to do the whole supports suck thing. Pls.

[BROseidon]

Panzer's over exaggerating a point that because fewer people play support, it's less competitive to get higher on the ladder as a support main. Which is true. However, he's also over exaggerating a metric shitton.

[BROseidon]

Even at the highest level you can see this effect, too. Like, Aphro and Yellowstar were both good ADCs, but after they switched to support they became god-tier because the overall talent in those positions isn't as high (I think support is probably the most cited position of weakness among pro teams)

[Brandi]

Sory for the dc in that aram game guys. My computer blue screen'd. I think it overheated or something. I hope I don't need to replace anything.

[Iecerint]

AP hadn't heard this yet, so I thought I'd post it here.

[JasonWazza]

It's unlikely to actually happen, because put plain and simply, Riot would just have to impose either ban loss restrictions, or simply being kicked out of the LCS, it came up somewhere else and the rule was pointed out to everyone.

[animorpherv1]

They can't be in the LCS because of riot's terms of service or whatever.

[Iecerint]

BTW, whatever happened with the HBO/LCS thing? I didn't really notice anything this summer.

[animorpherv1]

...Why did I not duo with a support main before?

11/3/14 Graves, 11/3/10 Graves, and 11/7/18 Jinx (with a laggy and dc'ing warwick in the last one). All of them wins. Jeez. 64 LP in one night xD.

[Brandi]

Someone mains support = everyone is more likely to get the role they want since it's a less popular role.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP hadn't heard this yet, so I thought I'd post it here.

Whoever wrote those responses for YouPorn is really sharp.

[mykonian]

Someone mains support = everyone is more likely to get the role they want since it's a less popular role.

the other way around made that I had/got to play a ton of support. Don't know how it was for the others.

[Cabd]

I am probably going to take the jump and get dragged into this world. I've been debating it for a while, and sort of like supporting, and my "pre-investment" into the game was grabbing Nami, Morganna, Soraka, Annie while they were on sale. So while you all at the top yell back and forth, what's the best way for me to get STARTED learning support?

[Iecerint]

I am probably going to take the jump and get dragged into this world. I've been debating it for a while, and sort of like supporting, and my "pre-investment" into the game was grabbing Nami, Morganna, Soraka, Annie while they were on sale. So while you all at the top yell back and forth, what's the best way for me to get STARTED learning support?

It's hard to answer questions like this without getting a sense of how much you've played the game.

Feel free to add me if you want (=Iecerint). I just started recently too.

[JasonWazza]

I am probably going to take the jump and get dragged into this world. I've been debating it for a while, and sort of like supporting, and my "pre-investment" into the game was grabbing Nami, Morganna, Soraka, Annie while they were on sale. So while you all at the top yell back and forth, what's the best way for me to get STARTED learning support?

Call support each game?

The easiest of the four you listed would probably be Annie (personal opinion, Soraka could also be easy because she turns the lane into a sustain/farm lane)

Basics you will need to learn are;

Bush Control.
Support Matchups.
Map Awareness.

And generally learn to pick champs that fit your overall team comp (not saying that supports have specific team comps to be ran in, there are just ones that are better for some supports).

[mykonian]

I am probably going to take the jump and get dragged into this world. I've been debating it for a while, and sort of like supporting, and my "pre-investment" into the game was grabbing Nami, Morganna, Soraka, Annie while they were on sale. So while you all at the top yell back and forth, what's the best way for me to get STARTED learning support?

a. Bad idea, cabd
b. play a lot.
c. watch other people play (there are some supports that stream)
d. don't start playing soraka, people will give you bad advice about her when you play her with other newer players. Also, she might get a rework, her kit has been problematic for ages, so you could save yourself some work and learn her in a couple of months. (also she's not the most interesting character to play)

[Cabd]

(I have done plenty of watching and reading the lore, i'm just sort of ready to start getting my hands dirty. I'm probably gonna practice vs bots until i get mechanics down, jumping into ranked is stupid from the looks of it)

Things I do know:

My best friend is named "ward"
As a support last hitting is less important but i still need to get it down.
My minimap gets attention every half a second.

Spoiler: Mini Infodump

Server: NA, obv
Name: CabdIsSk (meh, cabd was taken obv)
Level: Hahahahahaha only 5
Champs OWNED: Annie Morg Nami Ryze Trist (and obv whatever's free that week)
Riot Points: 700 (With free to play games i usually invest 10 bucks from the getgo, then scale up to 60 as if i'd bought a console game if I find it was worth the money.)


Of note, my brother plays a lot more than I do and already has assassin style champs down, although his flavor of the week seems to be Ezreal, his usual mains are Nid and Katarina. I'm probably gonna end up trying to hang around him for a bit but none of those really go into a bottom lane alongside a support.

[mykonian]

Ranked is something that you can do after grinding 30 levels, so you don't have to worry about it. Normals aren't scary. Riot's matchmaking is pretty good, they figure out pretty quickly what your skill level is and with who you should play.

Using the minimap is easier for some than other, but that's valuable. Warding is something you could learn later. It's comparatively easy to pick up and doesn't really deserve focus initially. And you'll play other roles inevitably, so yes, getting to know what the waves do and how to last hit is nice (also because if you are really good at support you are supposed to help your adc last hit at tower at early levels, should shit hit the fan, something I'm still trying to get down).

[JasonWazza]

My best friend is named "ward"
As a support last hitting is less important but i still need to get it down.
My minimap gets attention every half a second.

Ward is also your biggest enemy (you should be one of the first to change to sweepers.
And you don't really need to last hit at all apart from helping your ADC last hit under tower.

Map awareness is a major thing for you though. (though at level 5 don't expect it to come up much)

[Iecerint]

Just play blindly and come up with specific questions. You're going to get answers with too much jargon to be of any real use.

I think the lowest hanging fruit in terms of skill-boosts is to learn about the items a little bit. The Recommended items are frequently really outdated and can be misleading. But you'll also pick up on this as you go along.

[Cabd]

I'm following this guide for starting off: http://www.solomid.net/guide/view/12306 ... arctangent

Been playing some very basic bot games and getting a hang for morg's toolkit. Black shield is literally the best thing ever. And dark bindings feel fun like crazy.

[Iecerint]

Yeah, using online guides is a great way to get a handle on the basics.

One thing to be careful of is to check when the guides were last updated, though. Some guides online date back to season 2 or season 3, and some similarly-named items are basically unrecognizable in terms of their function these days. This doesn't apply to that particular guide, though.

[quadz08]

Cabd, I'd honestly advise that you don't start with learning support. First things first is learning champion mechanics, and supports tend to follow different (and less mechanically intensive) rules than the others.

[JasonWazza]

Question is there a thing in higher elo's of who gets sweeped ward's gold? (just out of curiosity)

And i should really buy thresh.