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Post Post #33225 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:56 am

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went 10/0 quinn top, at 20 minutes my ENTIRE TEAM disconnects

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Post Post #33226 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:09 am

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Teemo is a terrible champion to start with.

His kit minus his ult IS easy to use, because it doesn't do anything. His ult is really, REALLY hard to use well. It might work when the enemy team is new enough to not realize that it's the team with more nexuses instead of more kills who wins, but that's a very low limit and it's also a teemo-unique pattern and you won't get much out of it for other champions.

Sure, he counters top laners for a time, but it's hard to do and then you get wrecked when they get their ults and you just have mushrooms.

On other stuff, I'm pretty sure leona is 4800.
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Post Post #33227 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:36 am

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mykonian wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:Well, specifically, the more popular/most meta supports right now are:

Thresh
Morgana
Leona
Braum
Lulu
Nami


Doesn't necessarily mean they are the strongest or the likeliest to help you win the game. Of that list, only morg, leona and nami do well (though obviously lulu's lolking stats are contaminated). As if you could only win games as support by buying a 6300 champ.

First off, it seems ridiculous to say that Thresh doesn't do well as a support.

Second off, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there are a number of good quality 6300 supports, and by comparison, very few low cost supports that are worth learning. In other roles, there is decent depths at each price point. For example, if you want to AD Carry... you've got Ashe & Sivir to learn the basics at 450, Tristana @ 1350, Corki/Twitch @ 3150, Cait/Ez/Kog/Vayne @ 4800. If you want to support with a viable champion, you've got... Janna/Morg @ 1350, Sona @ 3150, and Leona @ 4800. Much less variety and depth without dumping 6300 on a champion.
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Post Post #33228 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:37 am

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Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Teemo is a terrible champion to start with.

His kit minus his ult IS easy to use, because it doesn't do anything. His ult is really, REALLY hard to use well. It might work when the enemy team is new enough to not realize that it's the team with more nexuses instead of more kills who wins, but that's a very low limit and it's also a teemo-unique pattern and you won't get much out of it for other champions.

Sure, he counters top laners for a time, but it's hard to do and then you get wrecked when they get their ults and you just have mushrooms.

On other stuff, I'm pretty sure leona is 4800.

We're talking about champions to play to learn the mechanics of the game, and Teemo shrooms passively teach you lane vision/controlling ganks, and his kit lets you just focus on last hitting and moving around.
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Post Post #33229 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:39 am

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I realize full well this has moved beyond me, but i'd like to point out the whole "If I decide I like it I'm willing to put the equivalent of a real console game price towards RP" statement in my OP. I'll be saving the IP for the rune pages probably. (yes i know not to worry about runes till i can buy the really good ones way higher levels)
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Post Post #33230 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:40 am

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Maestro wrote:Top - Darius, Garen, Malphite, Ryze, Tryndamere
Mid - Karthus, Morgana, Malzahar, Xerath, Ziggs
Bot - Ashe, Ezreal, Caitlyn, Vayne, Tristana

Remove Xerath, Ziggs, Ezreal, and Vayne from this list (possibly Ryze, too, since I think he's a lot harder to play than the skill floor suggests)
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Post Post #33231 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:44 am

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Cabd wrote:I realize full well this has moved beyond me, but i'd like to point out the whole "If I decide I like it I'm willing to put the equivalent of a real console game price towards RP" statement in my OP. I'll be saving the IP for the rune pages probably. (yes i know not to worry about runes till i can buy the really good ones way higher levels)

$60 isn't as much as you think it is in League.

$50 is 7200 RP.

Buying every champion at full price costs around 85,000 RP, or about $550. If you can get them on sale, you're looking at a little less than $300.

Granted, some people don't want every champion... but even a single 6300 IP champion will cost you 975 RP.
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Post Post #33232 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:49 am

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That's why I only buy champions that are on sale.

Been learning and practicing Lee Sin, Evelynn, and Nunu ever since I got jungle for my ranked 5s team. I was pleasantly surprised on how fun Lee sin can be, the play potential is ridiculous.
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Post Post #33233 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:51 am

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That's why I only buy champions with IP!
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Post Post #33234 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:54 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Kha semi-confirmed to be getting the Ultimate skin

https://twitter.com/Fitztopher/status/4 ... 3725660161
Check Morello's reply
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Post Post #33235 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:55 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Six
S
Hide
assassin
J

^ clues given by a rioter about the new Ultimate skin champ

Khazix has six letters / K6 nickname
S = September (release date)
Hide = Kha's ult goes invis
Assassin = kha's role (shows up as asssassin in client)
J = Jungler or Jump


https://twitter.com/Fitztopher/statuses ... 3725660161

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he's either lying or it's not kha
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Post Post #33236 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:56 am

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The Bulge wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:Kha semi-confirmed to be getting the Ultimate skin

https://twitter.com/Fitztopher/status/4 ... 3725660161
Check Morello's reply

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Post Post #33237 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:57 am

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prob rengar
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Post Post #33238 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:57 am

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i am excited for cabd games. also, dont need to spend any kind of money. i had more than enough IP for full set of runes at lvl 20, plus had purchased like 4 champs at full price (with IP), which was enough to cover any lane.
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Post Post #33239 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:58 am

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quadz08 wrote:prob rengar


rengar just got a super nice skin tho

edit: eh yeah probably rango anyways
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Post Post #33240 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:01 am

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I'll just be over here

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Post Post #33241 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:03 am

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notscience wrote:I'll just be over here

hoping it's poppy


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Post Post #33242 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:06 am

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I'm really mad I don't have it. I like the skin I have for her. The 520 one.
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Post Post #33243 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:11 am

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@Cabd:There's a huge difference between learning any other role and support. Learning support first means your more keen to know where to ward, knowing when to go in, map awareness, etc. Personally, I think it's fine to learn support first
if
you're also praticing cs'ing (among other things), so you don't get completely left behind in other roles.

Same goes for anything else, really - if you're learnnig top lane, you should be practicing things that top laners don't do all that often sometimes. Also, I sent you a friend request.

@Maestro: You just recommended VAYNE to a new player. Shame on you.
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Post Post #33244 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:18 am

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Phoneposting, can't say much, have more thoughts later.

You should start with a mid or adc if you want to switch to support (mid teaches mechanics for things that aren't Taric-/Ali/Leona, adc teaches how 2v2 lanes work)

Malz is a bad starting champ. Annie mid is a really good place to start.
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Post Post #33245 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:18 am

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I honestly think support is eh role to learn first. If you look at low level games, there are rarely supports anyways (at least when I played. "supports", if there were support champs, built damage and tried to get kills). At first, worry about learning how to kill, how to not die, how to cs, how to hit skillshots, how to build effectively. Warding, timers, and other things supports keep track of are important, but are a little advanced for new players to take in right away.
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Post Post #33246 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:21 am

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BROseidon wrote:You should start with a mid or adc

from the way i learned, i agree with this. my first champ was ADC (sivir). It's a very easy way to grasp other aspects of the game because there is not as much (imo) to keep track of. i think other positions require a lot more responsibility and expectation of greatness that takes time to figure out.
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Post Post #33247 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:22 am

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BROseidon wrote:Annie mid is a really good place to start.

can confirm. started annie mid.
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Post Post #33248 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:24 am

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I learned zilean first because I'm upside down and backwards
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Post Post #33249 (ISO) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:44 am

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