Micro 376: Chosen Mafia - Game Over = Perfect Town Win

[ZZZX]

I have a theory where if I constantly point it out he may actually correct it.

good luck with that! lmao... I have given up on trying to change anyone. And he's not as terrible as some.

This question about "who would YOU veto gaiz" is really bad and has no advantages.

meh. I wouldn't say it's really bad, and I wouldn't say it has no advantages, but I would say that the manner in which he went about it is not the usual useless question type thing he does as scum (see Organic Chemistry).

I've got a fairly decent townread on him at the moment for the fact that he seems interested in the answers, rather than just making town noises. Know what I mean?

ETL

I love (and hate) how accurately you know my play style lol

[T S O]

Its not. Once we get a few flips you will see how good it is

What part of the plan gets better when we get flips?

Also you are not in a leading position this game e.g. revolution
Explain

This game is 3 pages old, perhaps.

I have a theory where if I constantly point it out he may actually correct it.

good luck with that! lmao... I have given up on trying to change anyone. And he's not as terrible as some.

I agree with that, but at the same time, you never know. You can't expect people to improve if they don't know what they're doing wrong.

This question about "who would YOU veto gaiz" is really bad and has no advantages.

meh. I wouldn't say it's really bad, and I wouldn't say it has no advantages, but I would say that the manner in which he went about it is not the usual useless question type thing he does as scum (see Organic Chemistry).

I've never seen ZZZX as scum, but my townmeta of him consists of semi-paranoid irrational posts with a big dollop of confidence (see: Revolution Mafia).

I've got a fairly decent townread on him at the moment for the fact that he seems interested in the answers, rather than just making town noises. Know what I mean?

I think so too, but I'm not as sure as you are.

[ZZZX]

I'll wait for you TSO

Meanwhile I'll be keeping my vote on prob scum tso

[Wickedestjr]

Votecount 1.3:

BlueBloodedToffee - [1] - Flubbernugget
ZZZX - [1] - Corrino
awestfie - [1] - Guilty Gunsmith
T S O - [1] - ZZZX
Josh_B - [1] - BlueBloodedToffee

Not voting - [4] - awestfie, Josh_B, Heartless, T S O

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)

[Flubbernugget]

GG is town and TSO is annoyingly scummy so far.
VOTE: TSO

Please elaborate, your cases are so usually top-class and your history of reading me so often correct that I'm particularly excited to hear you've formed a scumread on me.

It's also a bit disturbing that you called me scum, GG called me Town, and then you immediately accepted this without pushing your read. Why?

When the duck did I accept you as town? And no I can't make a case that good at page 1 .

TSO won't answer this so I will. Check the post numbers.

TSO is town I guess. I cant see a scummy getting their panties all in a bunch over what he is getting his bunched up over.

GG is town and TSO is annoyingly scummy so far.
VOTE: TSO

But then TSO decides ZZZX is still scummy because nobody agrees with him on PAGE 3.

So, what you're saying is, you think I'm Scum, but you have no problems with other players completely disagreeing with that, you're not seeking to either change their opinion or have them change yours, and also you can't actually articulate why you think I'm scum.

And you wonder why I'm so often derisive to you.

I have a theory where if I constantly point it out he may actually correct it.

So until TSO can

find

a read and not

push

a read, he is scum, and ZZZX is chosen.

VOTE: TSO

[Guilty Gunsmith]

Flubber.... I have no fucking clue what you are trying to say there.

Like none.

[Guilty Gunsmith]

And I speak ZZZX.

ETL

[Flubbernugget]

So, TSO was saying that ZZZX was accepting your read on him, which he wasn't. Yet he's saying he's going to continue to pester him about not having anyone agree with his read anyone by forcing it down his throat. I feel like he's trying to get a chosen one out of the way and is fumbling for reads on him.

I hope that clarified.

[T S O]

I think I do, it's just really bad and illogical.

I don't want to respond to it until it's at least coherent, however.

[T S O]

oh there we go.

Flubber, what would you grade your reading comprehension out of 10?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

oh there we go.

Flubber, what would you grade your reading comprehension out of 10?

TSO ily, have I told you that lately?

ETL

[Guilty Gunsmith]

oh there we go.

Flubber, what would you grade your reading comprehension out of 10?

TSO ily, have I told you that lately?

ETL

i think this is the right account now. what have i done to myself....

ETL

[T S O]

no, but it's always welcome to hear, ETL!

[Flubbernugget]

oh there we go.

Flubber, what would you grade your reading comprehension out of 10?

So it still doesn't make sense?

[T S O]

At all.

[T S O]

I mean, you seem to be accusing me of pushing ZZZX's lynch, but I haven't called ZZZX scum once in the whole game.

[Flubbernugget]

Okay. My guess is that I'm making too many assumptions and not expressing them as such.

I don't like the idea of trying to repeat yourself to get someone to do what you want. What are the possible answers you see from ZZZX and what do you plan to do with them?

[T S O]

The mistake you're making is thinking I'm trying to get ZZZX to perform a certain action in this game. I'm trying to get ZZZX to become a better player by constantly pointing out flaws of his in every game. I'm not trying to manipulate him. I'm trying to better him.

In this game, he

a) Scumread me
b) Couldn't explain why
c) Was okay with others townreading me, while maintaining his own scumread

despite misreading me in our last game together, where he was the sole town player scumreading me in the entire game. These are my issues with him so far. They're not indicative of him being scum, and I never claimed they were - but I'll still point them out.

[Josh_B]

First of all I want all of you to answer a quicky. If you were scum who would you veto and why.?

If I were scum, I would be adamant about NOT Vetoing TSO and hope that he was "chosen". I like to bicker with him and I would want press for his lynch. If I were anyone else, I would also not Veto Josh B. He usually gets lynched regardless of alignment.
ZZZX is semi-lynchable D1 target, and possibly a D2 or D3 target. I would agree to veto him on the grounds that it guaranteed he was NKable just in case things weren't going well for me and my partner.

But ultimately I would suggest to Veto one of the hydras. Two heads are better than one, unless they're against me. Of the two hydra's I'd veto AngryPidgeon over Anti-hero and hope that anti-hero wasn't chosen. I've never played with either of them before(that I know of), but I've seen their names around the site enough to question myself about being able match wits with them.
Everyone else in the game is null.

A-West-F-ie.

Having a pool of people who are most likely to be veto'ed makes it so that those people are marginally safer to lynch rather than someone who would most likely not be veto'ed.

This totally makes no sense. But for the hell of it, Who would you veto?

[T S O]

have you ever managed to get me lynched

the last time you tried it, you just died in the night.

[Josh_B]

ZZZX is on my list of towns. Thanks for the support.
Game breaking can be an alignment tell if it benefits the town.
You haters are on my short list of lynchables.

[Josh_B]

have you ever managed to get me lynched

the last time you tried it, you just died in the night.

No. But it's fun trying. I really need to go back and see who NK'd my slot in that game. I'm pretty sure that bulba was involved somehow.

[T S O]

My point is, that I've played with you twice, called you scum twice, and you were scum twice. It's not like I get into a town-v-town catfight. It's just me reading you correctly.

[Josh_B]

I'm not mad at you for it. You never got me lynched either. Maybe you'll be scum sometime and try to get me lynched when I'm town. That will be fun too.

[T S O]

That's true, but I most certainly would have got you lynched in Revolution Mafia.