Mini 1602: Game Over

[Malakittens]

oh implosions

like to give some reasoning to that bear naked vote of yours there?

[Malakittens]

hey look i got a page top.

Butyeah really naked votes are a nogo for me atm.

[phokdapolees]

@AGar

Okay, time to come clean.

I have played with Tammy before (no, not telling you who I am).

I do know this is her towniness; I primarily wanted to gauge reactions from other players to my vague accusations. (And, in my mind, it worked. Pretty well, actually.)

Very convenient excuse to take his vote off of Tammy.

Not sure, but I *think* that confession post could be a blatant scumconfession trying to masquerade as a joke. Thoughts?

And this was a thought that Tammy already had and presented as her reasoning for voting Mala in the very previous post, yet he tries to pass it off as his own idea.

Anything else?

[Malakittens]

tman2nd - Don't like his early defense of Flames. Gut-scum-read.

I actually meant Tammy on this, but you kinda deflected things of flames too. right in your first few posts.

IMPLOSIONS.
IF I DONT SEE AN EXPLANATION
IN THE NEXT POST YOU MAKE
GOD HELP YOU.

but you are lucky i'm working a 12 hour shift tomorrow

so you got time to fabricate your case!

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Rack

I told my sweetheart

"choose a number between 1 and 13"

. She chose 13. I think I've just started the strongest and most viable case EVER in the history of MafiaScum.

remember when i called this scum.

it's scum.

it's posting elsewhere.

VOTE: Aneminen

k going to bed.

[AGar]

@AGar

Okay, time to come clean.

I have played with Tammy before (no, not telling you who I am).

I do know this is her towniness; I primarily wanted to gauge reactions from other players to my vague accusations. (And, in my mind, it worked. Pretty well, actually.)

Very convenient excuse to take his vote off of Tammy.

Could be town bullshit. Already hit on this. Not buying.

Not sure, but I *think* that confession post could be a blatant scumconfession trying to masquerade as a joke. Thoughts?

And this was a thought that Tammy already had and presented as her reasoning for voting Mala in the very previous post, yet he tries to pass it off as his own idea.

Two players can come to the same idea with independent thinking, y'know?

Anything else?

Yeah. Look at Flame. Look at what I've said about Flame. Now look at how he's quick to defend Rack. They cooooould be scumbuddies. Like, it's possible. But I think it's more possible that Flame-scum is maybe hedging a bet on rack-town to get some credit in the event of a townflip. It seems way too early for hard defenses of scumbuddies at the moment. But getting in front of a burgeoning wagon? Seems like an ideal play to me. Gets him on the board for that.

[implosion]

*twiddles thumbs*

[phokdapolees]

@AGar

Okay, time to come clean.

I have played with Tammy before (no, not telling you who I am).

I do know this is her towniness; I primarily wanted to gauge reactions from other players to my vague accusations. (And, in my mind, it worked. Pretty well, actually.)

Very convenient excuse to take his vote off of Tammy.

Could be town bullshit. Already hit on this. Not buying.

Could also be scum bullshit, but w/e.

Not sure, but I *think* that confession post could be a blatant scumconfession trying to masquerade as a joke. Thoughts?

And this was a thought that Tammy already had and presented as her reasoning for voting Mala in the very previous post, yet he tries to pass it off as his own idea.

Two players can come to the same idea with independent thinking, y'know?

I know, but he presents the thought as if nobody has said it before, which seems to me like an attempt to be making content while just regurgitating what somebody else has already said.

Anything else?

Yeah. Look at Flame. Look at what I've said about Flame. Now look at how he's quick to defend Rack. They cooooould be scumbuddies. Like, it's possible. But I think it's more possible that Flame-scum is maybe hedging a bet on rack-town to get some credit in the event of a townflip. It seems way too early for hard defenses of scumbuddies at the moment. But getting in front of a burgeoning wagon? Seems like an ideal play to me. Gets him on the board for that.

This is a good point, but why would he defend him against the lynch so early in the game? There would be plenty of time to defend him against the lynch to earn towncred later on, not to mention the fact that this rack wagon could dissolve at any point.

[phokdapolees]

huzzah for quotestripes

[SleepyKrew]

VC 1.05

rack

(4) - Aneninen, Elias_the_thief, phokdapolees, tman2nd

phokdapolees

(3) - Flames682, shaddowez, rack

Malakittens

(2) - Tammy, implosion

tman2nd

(1) - Riabi

Flames682

(1) - AGar

Aneninen

(1) - Malakittens

Not Voting

(1) - chaoslord54

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 deadline will hit in: (expired on 2014-08-31 16:48:15)

[Aneninen]

Oh, lol, Malakittens!

(1) Check out my other games (2 of them are finished) so as to see that I'm giving such silly random votes everywhere.
(2) Since it's over I can tell it: I was active in another game because it had an insane quick endgame. (By the way, it was so quick that I couldn't even follow my own lynch, lololol!) Link if needed: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=58191
(3) I haven't posted anything since my RVS, yes, that's true. Why? Let me quote your post 87:

"Is seriously no one picking up on the fact a majority of my posts today was pure troll, joking?"

. I've been unable to understand what the whole whoop-de-doo-lah was about.

Indeed, I don't have too many reads yet. Most of the posts are nulls and fluffs. Tammy and Agar seems to be town. Their posting style, in general. Perhaps Phokdapolees too – can someone explain me the case against him?
Rack is a possible scum, Flames might be his partner in this case (see 119). But my intuition says that we should keep an eye on Implosion as well.

[rack]

No, petty sure implosion is town, too.

By the way, how would one pronounce your username?

[Aneninen]

It should be "Ah-n(e)-

nee

-nenn" or something like that (stress is on the third syllable). But, noone really cares about it. ^_^

[rack]

I care (that's why I asked).

[Malakittens]

No, petty sure implosion is town, too.

By the way, how would one pronounce your username?

You need to be lynched.

Can we pls lynch this.

Also implosion -- I'm still waiting.

[Aneninen]

Which one of us this time, Kitty Pryde? ^_^ Rack or me? According to your last post I don't understand.
However, it might be because I am an idiot.

[Malakittens]

Yeah I meant you instead of quoting you I quoted him. ^

[Elias_the_thief]

Rack, what is your aversion to answering my question? I'm beginning to think its personal =(

[SleepyKrew]

chaoslord54 has been prodded.

[chaoslord54]

Hey guys sorry had some wifi issues going on but now I am here. Going to read over everything and post tonight!

[Aneninen]

Yeah I meant you instead of quoting you I quoted him. ^

Why exactly did you quote him then? Do I have a scummy name or what? By the way, I wrote you a post, this one: 135.

@Rack

Why do you say that Implosion is town?

[tman2nd]

Somehow the email notification thing stopped temporarily for me.

hey look i got a page top.

Butyeah really naked votes are a nogo for me atm.

I've noticed he's done that a number of times.

I actually meant Tammy on this, but you kinda deflected things of flames too. right in your first few posts.

I'm not sure what you are referring to here.

Rack is a possible scum, Flames might be his partner in this case (see 119). But my intuition says that we should keep an eye on Implosion as well.

This echoes my thoughts.

@Implosion You haven't answered my question.

[shaddowez]

I'm not a fan of Elias' vote strategy right now. In Post #4 he voted for Mala as a pure RVS vote which was fine. However, in Post #17 he jumps over to Flame with no explanation, bringing him up to 3 votes in RVS. In Post #88, he then jumps onto the Rack wagon after the Flames wagon all but disbanded. He did have some reasoning behind his Rack vote and has been continuing to pressure him which is making me lean town, but he's still someone I'm going to keep an eye on.

Definitely getting a town read on AGar at the moment. He seems to be looking at everything, and not just jumping to conclusions based on individual posts.

I really want to hear implosion's reason for voting Mala. The only time he mentions her before the vote is when he says she lied, which could just be an issue of semantics.

I don't like the apparent buddying of Rack and Flames, but it doesn't feel like scumbuddies to me just yet. If anything, it feels like White Knighting, and that's even a stretch at this point in the game.

I'd like to hear more from Riabi as well, he's still on his RVS vote and hasn't said much. He questioned Rack once, but then just backed off after Rack's response.

Aneninen

- Not too strong a case against Phok. The reason for my vote, and I believe others but I could be mistaken, was he was refusing to accept the fact that the exchange between Flames and Tammy was a joke, and voted Tammy for scumminess based on that exchange. It looked like he was just trying to find an easy target to get people to look at. Based on posts since, and as I said in my last post, I'll be changing my vote.

Rack

is avoiding questions, voting with weak or no reasons (including an OMGUS), and most of his posts have been fluff at best. I'm not really comfortable with how quick this wagon grew, but he definitely doesn't feel town to me. Rack, please explain all of your votes so far, especially your most recent one. Until then, consider this your L-2 vote.

VOTE: Rack

[Elias_the_thief]

Okay. I have to admit, I've been kind of coasting for a few days now. That's on me. But I've reread everything and a lot occurs to me. Get ready for some readable shiz.

Probably Scum: Phok, Rack, Implosion.
Probably Town: Tman, AGar.
Everyone Else: Not a strong enough vibe to mention.

Phok

based on his misunderstanding of the not a joke thing. I get the possibility that he thought it was a serious vote, sure. But what bothers me is the insistence on leaving the vote. If the basis of your suspicion is her trying to brush off a vote, and the vote was considered non-serious by both partners, what is left in her post that is scummy?

Rack

As previously noted, I don't like the meta argument, followed by the "just kidding, her meta is the opposite!" thing. If it was a reaction test, it was a damn poorly designed one. It had already been established that implosion had played with Tammy before. So. Yeah.
Further, he claims the test to have worked well. But all he stated was that he learned Implosion was town...and not why. He has repeatedly refused to answer me about it, or even acknowledge the question, despite multiple attempts.

Implosion

is subtler I think. I have to admit a lot of my suspicion is based off of fishy behavior with Rack. I dont want to go into too much detail right now, but look at all dat fencesitting in post 115. Look at their ISO, and I'm sure you'll notice a bunch of stuff smells fishy.
Well, aside from associative tells there's not much...don't really like 36. For reasons of ambiguity, and not answering Tman's question on it.

I'm not really about my town tells. At this point its as simple as matching a lot of my views on in-game events, and seeming both reasonable and logical in their interactions.

[Flames682]

Okay, I was focused on phok, but now I see what people are saying about rack being scum. Last night I was tired so I wasn't really thinking. Today, looking at rack's ISO, it's not too impressive.

Riabi hasn't been voted yet.

VOTE: Riabi

Nor have I.

VOTE: riabi

But...

But......

But, wouldn't it make more sense to vote for tman?

So confused.

Still think that he was being playful here, but that's not the reason I think he's scum.

Okay, so, this is absolutely,

definitely

scum!Tammy. Too forced, not at all like her town play.

VOTE: Tammy

The evidence of Tammy's scumminess can easily be found through a site search. I will not do your research for you.

No.

Seems like a good reason to vote Tammy at first, but then can't site it and gives shitty reasoning on why he can't cite it.

Okay, time to come clean.

I have played with Tammy before (no, not telling you who I am).

I do know this is her towniness; I primarily wanted to gauge reactions from other players to my vague accusations. (And, in my mind, it worked. Pretty well, actually.)

implosion is town, I am pretty sure.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: malakittens

Backing off to seem town from the shitty reasoning in his last post.

Not sure, but I *think* that confession post could be a blatant scumconfession trying to masquerade as a joke. Thoughts?

This statement even worse than phok voting Tammy for a joke.

Eh, still don't feel too good about Tammy, but rack's posting has been way worse. The "confusion" in the beginning then the vote and immediate unvote seems like scum.
VOTE: rack

Oh, please.

VOTE: phokda

That's a nice OMGUS for legit reasoning.

No, petty sure implosion is town, too.

Gives no reasons as to why he thinks implosion is town.

VOTE: Rack