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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:52 pm

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Spoiler: Votecount 1.22
Votecount 1.22


Flubbernugget - [3] - Heartless, Guilty Gunsmith, Josh_B
T S O - [2] - ZZZX, BlueBloodedToffee
Josh_B - [1] - T S O
Guilty Gunsmith - [1] - Lying Cat

Not voting - [2] - awestfie, Flubbernugget

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)


Spoiler: Votecount 1.23
Votecount 1.23


Flubbernugget - [2] - Heartless, Josh_B
T S O - [2] - ZZZX, BlueBloodedToffee
Lying Cat - [2] - awestfie, Guilty Gunsmith
Josh_B - [1] - T S O
Guilty Gunsmith - [1] - Lying Cat

Not voting - [1] - Flubbernugget

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)


Spoiler: Votecount 1.24
Votecount 1.24


Flubbernugget - [2] - Heartless, Josh_B
T S O - [2] - ZZZX, BlueBloodedToffee
Lying Cat - [2] - awestfie, Guilty Gunsmith
Josh_B - [1] - T S O
Guilty Gunsmith - [1] - Lying Cat

Not voting - [1] - Flubbernugget

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)


Votecount 1.25


Lying Cat - [3] - Guilty Gunsmith, awestfie, BlueBloodedToffee
Flubbernugget - [1] - Josh_B
T S O - [1] - ZZZX
Josh_B - [1] - T S O
Guilty Gunsmith - [1] - Lying Cat
BlueBloodedToffee - [1] - Heartless

Not voting - [1] - Flubbernugget

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-08-25 14:39:13)
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:53 pm

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TWO OF YOU GUYS WITH BIRTHDAYS IN THE SAME GAME= obvious scum team.

Just playing but happy birthday anyways.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:24 pm

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Heartless wrote:>the criticism of the flubber wagon (even though precisely ZERO fucking
scum
reads came from the wagon)
>the irritatingly long time it's taking to waffle on us
>the vote parking on TSO (a zero accountability vote) for the longest time

and now...

>the random jump onto lying cat with no reads progression following from recent posting

lying cat wasn't anywhere near the flubber wagon. if you want to sit here and
swear up and fucking down that the flubber wagon was on scum
, then your scumreads should follow from that,
but they don't


it's flubber/bbt scumteam

gg

OK.
I'm leaning scum on you from your attack on FN. You can see that from the reads list I provided so I'm not sure why you don't think I got any scum-reads from that wagon.
I'm waffling on you? I don't even know what to say...
I don't usually like to move my vote around a lot. I guess I could have unvoted but meh. I'm not sure how leaving my vote on TSO if a wagon is going nowhere is a scum-tell though.

There has been no progression on my read on LC. They're null.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:01 am

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BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm leaning scum on you from your attack on FN. You can see that from the reads list I provided so I'm not sure why you don't think I got any scum-reads from that wagon.


oh? so are you "leaning scum" on lying cat now or what? (also "leaning [anything]", is a completely meaningless term that justifies a soft push)

I'm waffling on you? I don't even know what to say...


you don't? how about "i'm struggling to read heartless" because you said that only three times now

Spoiler:
BlueBloodedToffee wrote:So ZZZX and GG are town.

Leaning town on Josh.

Null on FN. Catch-up posts are so easy to make and pretty much always look pro-town so it gets ignored as far as being alignment indicative. Would like to see more.
Null on awestfie, I need to see some more, gut is telling me something is wrong here.
Need to ISO heartless/LC coz can't get a read on either for some reason.

TSO is scum. Surprised he is still alive.


BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I have to be honest and say I'm struggling with Heartless and it's kind of frustrating me now.

Some of their posting strikes me as town but I can't shake this bad feeling and I think it's mainly from the attack on FN (which does actually include some good points). It just seems such an easy lynch to go after though and it's not sitting right. I'm gonna need some more time.

Town
GG

awestfie
ZZZX

FN
LC

Heartless

JB/TSO
Scum


BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Guilty Gunsmith wrote:That isn't what I said.

I said your suspicion of Heartless for pushing Flubber is ridiculous when you are strongly townreading the other 2 people who supported a Flubber push.

My reads on yourself and awestfie are not solely based on the FN wagon/suspicion. The only player I'm strongly town-reading is you, hence the gap before awestfie and ZZZX.

I am struggling to read Heartless. I am getting the majority of my read from their push on FN, which I think is a bad wagon.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:02 am

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I still maintain it's Josh/BBT over Flubber/BBT.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:06 am

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T S O wrote:I still maintain it's Josh/BBT over Flubber/BBT.


i think bbt is scum

you think bbt is scum

there's a natural follow-up to this
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:10 am

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fair enough I guess.

unvote
vote: bbt
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:16 am

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>flubber's wagon is "easy" (even though it magically disintegrates) but bad boy lying cat wagon is all cool
>lying cat isn't even a scumread
>josh is a scumread and a
bunch
of people talk about him being scum, but
i'll never vote him

>flubber's wagon was
sooooooooooooo
scum driven, but maybe it's not because there's some good points, but heartless is "leaning" scum because blahablhblahlkdjsaf;jds;lkajf;lkdsajf;lkdsaj;lkfdsajfsalk; /fart

seriously, BBT's "reads" are a big, tangled, fucked up web that doesn't connect to the
actions
(the vote patterns).

forget logic. the simple fact of the matter is that he's not pushing the lynch that follows from his reads (josh), he's pushing
a
lynch.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:25 am

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actually, i misspoke earlier.

josh
was the scumread that came from the flubber wagon.

there's a lot of anti-flubberwagon rhetoric, but when the chips are down and it comes to the only thing that matters (the vote) why does josh remain untouched?

we know BBT doesn't have a problem with one-man vanity wagons, so what is it? what's the reason?
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:25 am

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tso's right

it is josh/bbt
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:30 am

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oh wait a second, i misspoke
again
. josh already has a vote, so it's not even like he'd be trying to build a vanity wagon up from scratch.

i smell.

so much bullshit.

actions do
not
match up with rhetoric.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:31 am

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....or i guess
had
since tso moved his vote

point still stands
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:42 am

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ANTI are you TRYING TO CREATE CONFUSION?


WTF. How about we just get an L-1 wagon on everyone on the list. That's a good idea. Then no one can do VCA ever yaaaaaay. :igmeou:

fucking. wut.

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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:43 am

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I almost regret asking you to get your head in the game.

ETL
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:48 am

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Heartless wrote:
oh? so are you "leaning scum" on lying cat now or what? (also "leaning [anything]", is a completely meaningless term that justifies a soft push)

Nah, LC is null. Said that in my previous post I believe.

Heartless wrote:>flubber's wagon is "easy" (even though it magically disintegrates) but bad boy lying cat wagon is all cool
>lying cat isn't even a scumread
>josh is a scumread and a
bunch
of people talk about him being scum, but
i'll never vote him

>flubber's wagon was
sooooooooooooo
scum driven, but maybe it's not because there's some good points, but heartless is "leaning" scum because
blahablhblahlkdjsaf;jds;lkajf;lkdsajf;lkdsaj;lkfdsajfsalk; /fart
he chose to go after an easy lynch.

seriously, BBT's "reads" are a big, tangled, fucked up web that doesn't connect to the
actions
(the vote patterns).

forget logic. the simple fact of the matter is that he's not pushing the lynch that follows from his reads (josh), he's pushing
a
lynch.

Flubber was an easy target for a lynch, I don't even know why this is being debated. I also don't know why you keep saying it 'magically disintegrated' or language along those lines. Is that somehow relevant?

Correct. LC is not a scum-read.

Josh is a scum-read
but not
for the reasons you have decided it was for. More later.

I feel sure Flubber's wagon was scum-driven; scum can bring up valid points just as well as town can.

You're right, I'm not pushing a lynch on one of my scum-reads right now. Can't disagree with that.

Heartless wrote:actually, i misspoke earlier.

josh
was the scumread that came from the flubber wagon.

so what is it? what's the reason?


Josh was a scum-read for his buddying and looking for direction in the game. I'm sure you already knew this though; but given it doesn't fit into your case, it can be disregarded right?

If I say the reason, it kind of defeats the object of my vote. Which I no longer care about, so...

I voted LC to try and run her up and see if I could get a better read from their reaction to a growing wagon on them.

I am a little tentative to take you on in this game because of the respect you get from the other players, but fuck it. I'm going with it now. I think I'm right and I'm gonna do it.

VOTE: Heartless
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:51 am

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Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
ANTI are you TRYING TO CREATE CONFUSION?


WTF. How about we just get an L-1 wagon on everyone on the list. That's a good idea. Then no one can do VCA ever yaaaaaay. :igmeou:

fucking. wut.

ETL


haven't been able to get anyone to L-1 yet but that's hardly my doing
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:53 am

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Spoiler:
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Heartless wrote:
oh? so are you "leaning scum" on lying cat now or what? (also "leaning [anything]", is a completely meaningless term that justifies a soft push)

Nah, LC is null. Said that in my previous post I believe.

Heartless wrote:>flubber's wagon is "easy" (even though it magically disintegrates) but bad boy lying cat wagon is all cool
>lying cat isn't even a scumread
>josh is a scumread and a
bunch
of people talk about him being scum, but
i'll never vote him

>flubber's wagon was
sooooooooooooo
scum driven, but maybe it's not because there's some good points, but heartless is "leaning" scum because
blahablhblahlkdjsaf;jds;lkajf;lkdsajf;lkdsaj;lkfdsajfsalk; /fart
he chose to go after an easy lynch.

seriously, BBT's "reads" are a big, tangled, fucked up web that doesn't connect to the
actions
(the vote patterns).

forget logic. the simple fact of the matter is that he's not pushing the lynch that follows from his reads (josh), he's pushing
a
lynch.

Flubber was an easy target for a lynch, I don't even know why this is being debated. I also don't know why you keep saying it 'magically disintegrated' or language along those lines. Is that somehow relevant?

Correct. LC is not a scum-read.

Josh is a scum-read
but not
for the reasons you have decided it was for. More later.

I feel sure Flubber's wagon was scum-driven; scum can bring up valid points just as well as town can.

You're right, I'm not pushing a lynch on one of my scum-reads right now. Can't disagree with that.

Heartless wrote:actually, i misspoke earlier.

josh
was the scumread that came from the flubber wagon.

so what is it? what's the reason?


Josh was a scum-read for his buddying and looking for direction in the game. I'm sure you already knew this though; but given it doesn't fit into your case, it can be disregarded right?

If I say the reason, it kind of defeats the object of my vote. Which I no longer care about, so...

I voted LC to try and run her up and see if I could get a better read from their reaction to a growing wagon on them.

I am a little tentative to take you on in this game because of the respect you get from the other players, but fuck it. I'm going with it now. I think I'm right and I'm gonna do it.

VOTE: Heartless


oh, so now you're going to
show
me.

also, you might as well not be voting now.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:56 am

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just a little frustrated with this game anti. you urged me to look at flubber to the point of blackmailing us on your read for it. i look at flubber, go yeah ok. but now it's bbt. so.. i dont know.

i want to lynch LC. I want to lynch flubber. that's all i want to do today. well that and i want you to focus a little please and talk to tth. like, i feel like you're going nuts.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:57 am

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EspeciallyTheLies wrote:just a little frustrated with this game anti. you urged me to look at flubber to the point of blackmailing us on your read for it. i look at flubber, go yeah ok. but now it's bbt. so.. i dont know.

i want to lynch LC. I want to lynch flubber. that's all i want to do today. well that and i want you to focus a little please and talk to tth. like, i feel like you're going nuts.

*sigh*
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:00 am

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BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Josh was a scum-read for his buddying and looking for direction in the game. I'm sure you already knew this though


oh? i read your fucking mind?

you howled about fubberwagon was scum + josh is now a scumread

2+2 makes 4
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:01 am

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>anti sorts the game
>etl says stop.

:|
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:05 am

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Heartless wrote:
oh? i read your fucking mind?

Nah. Look at and .

You don't need to 'read my fucking mind'. It's right there; in black and white. Had you bothered to look.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:05 am

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yeah

this game is in need of some TTH

can't argue with you there
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:07 am

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BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Heartless wrote:
oh? i read your fucking mind?

Nah. Look at and .

You don't need to 'read my fucking mind'. It's right there; in black and white. Had you bothered to look.


...that's even
more
nonsensical...

so, now you're going to sit here, nitpick at me, and deny that him being on the flubberwagon was a factor at all, even though it should clearly be from your opinion of "flubberwagon was so scummy"

i'm done with you. your scummy colors have already shown.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:09 am

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Not "stop" its just he's being hyperactive and I cant follow his thoughts. I'm just trying to figure shit out and I cant do that when there are a million different wagons.
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