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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:15 am

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Dr Pants wrote:
Anatole - Cass


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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:17 am

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I'm shardene innes.

Town list remains the same
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:17 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Titus wrote:Oh I'm Mrs. Broadus by the way.

Sorry if I am a little slower. I just got into a minor (I hope) car accident today.


Hope everything's ok.

Isn't that like a super minor character compared to all the other confirmed roles?


I haven't watched the show but this sounds a bit like the rolefish.
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:19 am

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@Anatole, Look at 1570. What about their ISO together makes you think Zmuffin is town? Include BooKitty please.
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:19 am

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it is, but other minor characters have been flipped, like Cass
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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:21 am

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Titus wrote:@Anatole, Look at 1570. What about their ISO together makes you think Zmuffin is town? Include BooKitty please.


muffin put skot to l-1 on day 3
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:22 am

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ActionDan wrote:I'm shardene innes.

Town list remains the same


Shardene works with the police in the show
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:23 am

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titus wrote:Both Skot and BooKitty followed each other for their RVS votes... [remind me of this for VCA]. They both vote and stop voting DGB similarly in their ISO.

just to be clear, you're trying to suggest this is something scum is... likely to do, right?

titus wrote:#590, zmuffin prefers another lynch to skot

was that after i'd just replaced in?
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:24 am

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Zmuffin, I'd need to look more at context. Gut says yes. I'd have to look and see alternatives at the time.

As for 590, depends on your definition of just replaced in.
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:26 am

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Based on the wiki entry it seems like it would be a weird character for either faction. Shardene is a snitch, but a minor character.

There are several more well known characters that should be on the scum faction.
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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:28 am

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I'm probably reading too much into the flavor for something I don't know shit about aside from relentless wiki-ing during this game.
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:29 am

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PeregrineV, Johnny Weeks, Self-Activated Tree Stump, was caught on the wire and shot from an unknown distance 1!
Antihero, Cass, One-Shot Commuter, was a victim of police brutality Night 2!
POWERFUL TOWNIE (formerly TheGottemer), Preston "Bode" Broadus, Town Neighbor, was a victim of police brutality Night 3!
ReallySexyDudes, Malik "Poot" Carr, Town Neighbor, was caught on the wire Night 4!

there are 3 unique killing flavors:

shot from an unknown distance is mine

caught on the wire - likely mcnulty
a victim of police brutality - maybe herc/prez?

this means that scum and i both killed PV
both of the unknown flavor texts are specifically police focused. this means that scum has unique flavor text depending on who performs the kill
so we are dealing with at least 2 scum
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:30 am

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Titus wrote:Zmuffin, I'd need to look more at context. Gut says yes. I'd have to look and see alternatives at the time.

As for 590, depends on your definition of just replaced in.

lol

as far as i'm concerned, i'm about as town as i can get in a game barring mod confirmation of my alignment unless you think i'm third party or something

the point you brought up about bookitty and skot doing similar things is only more proof of this because scum don't ever do that. like, ever.
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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:31 am

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Dr. Pants, the flavor kill could be a strongman or something. Don't speculate as to the flavor. It would be immensely helpful if you could copy paste VCs.
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:38 am

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With only 1 night kill, why would you assume scum wasn't responsible?

Who thought he was town other than me? that and he is generally mislynched a lot... It does not seem like a sensible scum kill if you put the two together.
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And if Anti was scum, and scum didn't make the night kill, what benefit could he get from playing dumb?

It's not about benefits. Not everything scum does is about benefits or scum motivation etc.

Think about it from a scum POV they have to think when only one kill goes through town will assume it was the scum kill and so will post with that view. Obviously not all scum will think like that but a lot will and looking at AH's posting, I pointed out what I believe to be scum doing that.
(It doesn't make a lot of sense to think PV was onto something)


scum has unique flavor for their kills so scum would know that the PV kill was doubled up on. This dismission that PV couldn't be a scum kill then is incorrect.

plus, as far a claims go, Clay Davis is a perfect fake claim. He was important to the show but was only in season 1 for about 5 minutes of screen time

SKOT's choice of fake claims suggest that there wasn't an available fake claim that matched RB. The only reason for this would be that either Toasty included poor fake claims, or that some one else had already used a fake claim that would work. Flavor wise, Clay Davis could totally be an RB.

Slandaar and Dan are my highest scum reads now
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:39 am

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Titus wrote:Dr. Pants, the flavor kill could be a strongman or something. Don't speculate as to the flavor. It would be immensely helpful if you could copy paste VCs.


But this means scum new on day 1 that someone besides themselves killed PV
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:46 am

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Titus wrote:Dr. Pants, the flavor kill could be a strongman or something. Don't speculate as to the flavor. It would be immensely helpful if you could copy paste VCs.


But this means scum new on day 1 that someone besides themselves killed PV


Explain please. I also think there's a typo here since on DAy 1 you couldn't have killed PV.
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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:47 am

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in a theme game, you would want a fake claim + PR to match flavor

SKOT's didn't even come close, so he must not have had an option

these characters had been claimed at the time

Dr Pants - Bird
Slandaar - Clay Davis
MC - D
MuffinMan - Savino
Xis - Brianna Barksdale
Anatole - Stinkum
AC - Orlando

myself, AC, and Xis all claimed PR's and important barksdale members. Anatole, Muffin, and MC all claimed lower ranking Barksdale members. Slandaar claimed a politician who had ties to the Barksdale organization.

As far as fake claims that could cover a PR like RB, Barksdale lieutenants and Politicians could all work

Muffin looks very town given the flip

so one of Anatole, MC, and Slandaar is scum

pedit: you know what I mean, I meant night 1
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:47 am

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actually i meant day 2 :p
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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:55 am

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FYI pants you just provided one of best pieces of evidence to prove I'm town
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:56 am

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eh, i'm not sure what i wanna do today.

i'm starting to wifom myself out of the possibility titus is scum ironically because there's like zero interaction with skot whatsoever. 478/482 are literally the only mentions of skot, and then she never makes mention of skot again (no mentioning his posts, no mention of a read on him, no mention of him at all) and i'm kinda thinking titus is more likely to be conscious of her scum buddy rather than completely ignoring him like that. meh

i'll prob do some reading later tonight when i get home or something

(on a somewhat unrelated note, i finished watching season 1 of the wire over the weekend. iz ok. bit sad my dude did like nothing in the show except take a prison sentence like a boss which was pretty cool but still disappointing)
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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:57 am

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Also the snitch to the police thing is a part of my flavor.
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:58 am

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I've convinced myself

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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:58 am

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I thought there was something fishy about slardar but then couldn't really find any good evidence in support when I first replaced in.
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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:59 am

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I also would be very very surprised if Toasty had given scum multiple fake claims of female characters with minor roles
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