Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[Anatole Kuragin]

SSK too

[farside22]

Ok, I did like vezok better than ki gi, but if I wanted to convince myself into a vezok lynch, the post below is the one I'd take.

vote farside

Take a chill pill. Don't get stressed.

Also talking about fake. That farside rage was incredibly fake.

This is buddying with reck as hard as he could. The post on it's own didn't fit what was posted at that point. That wasn't farside raging, and the intention of the vote is given with the first sentence: don't go so hard on reck.

So yeah, I know it sucks to lynch someone who's only there for a couple of days and replaced in, but both ki gi and vezok are scummy.

Inactivity is killing this game.

Oman and Beli need prods

And yes, I know Oman is the mod

God, this game really sucks with activity, it's not even fun anymore

Seriously didn't need this now. You guys suck

Reck, if you're not going to respond to farside, I'm not going to stop calling you scum.

She made 1-2 illiterate posts and the rest are perfectly literate if you have intention of actually reading them.

And somehow you'll be best buddies when reck talks with farside? This post doesn't make sense.

Can we please lynch TSO.

vez and flubber, if you are not already voting espresso, you should since you have both expressed he was scummy

To both of these people.
Vezo is scum. Anyone thinking otherwise is stupid or scum.

Also instead of ignoring my point Anatole tell me why you disagree or don't find it accurate.

[vezokpiraka]

Farside: gone are the days when it was easy to push a mislynch on me.

Anatole: you should leave espresso alone and vote farside with us.

[Anatole Kuragin]

What point farside? I don't know who is scum with espresso, it's stupid to speculate on that without a flip

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'm not really scumreading vezok or farside so I will do no such thing

[MattP]

Anyone thinking otherwise is stupid or scum.

Well that's a dumb cop out for legitimizing people disagreeing with you

[MattP]

You don't even have a developed case on Vezok you've presented. You just quoted his catchup post and said "Thanks for confirming you're scum" and now you're saying anyone who doesn't agree with you is scum or stupid. It's ridiculous and over the top. And I think you're being really stupid / short-sighted that you don't see the only person agreeing with you is Csareo.

[MattP]

We need to converge on a lynch.

[Belisarius]

We need to converge on a lynch.

I'm still happy with Flubber, Espresso, or Kuragin, but I'm not changing my vote until the next VC.

[farside22]

Vezo: vote was based on something that is untrue and was opportunistic
Basically everyone just ignore myko point, my post and tregded on.
Nice.

[farside22]

Vez may be protecting reckoner. Seems like noob scum.

Are you serious?
You say you want to lynch me or reck without ever giving an honest read on us.
You expressed suspicion on most of the players. What are your reads right now?

Also I don't think I've seen noob scum buddy up to their partners.

Like you gave a reason for you reads there.
Pfft

[farside22]

I've been reading throughout the game bit by bit. I have been since I started posting again, but I wanted to know how people would feel if I said I wasn't.

Nobody went for the bait, so there's no reason to continue.

VOTE: Anatole

This guy's been pushing every little thing, and he's been way overeager in everything he does. My guess is either scum or power role, but my money's on scum, I think it's more likely, and the way he was biting the hook made me feel even more from him.

Beyond me thinking this was ridiculous and fake

I speculate you might have a power role because potentially if others seem to agree with me on the fact that you are scum, instead of letting you get speedlynched it could give you a chance for a claim just so we don't fuck up. (It could potentially stop a mislynch if that happened to be the case)

And beyond me thinking this was ridiculous and fake

Lol, look at all this flailing.

There's no way he's a power role, I was wrong in that initial assumption.

This is a blatantly scummy feigned conclusion and complete mud-slinging

I don't like your antagonistic tone and moreover I don't like your rationalization of an Anatole lynch. I think unnaturally forwarding your agenda, and I think you're scum

Oh hey fake post are all the rage.
Now explain why you think it's fake, since I showed how reck's post were fake.

[farside22]

Anyone thinking otherwise is stupid or scum.

Well that's a dumb cop out for legitimizing people disagreeing with you

There is little reason to town read a slot that give cold reads that agree with your and no fucking reason why.

[MattP]

Oh hey fake post are all the rage.
Now explain why you think it's fake, since I showed how reck's post were fake.

Before I cater to you and explain something completely subjective, look at the last post and ask yourself how Espresso came to the conclusion that Anatole must not be a PR

[MattP]

Anyone thinking otherwise is stupid or scum.

Well that's a dumb cop out for legitimizing people disagreeing with you

There is little reason to town read a slot that give cold reads that agree with your and no fucking reason why.

It's because I was already reading Ki-Gi as town and Vezok's posts came off typically what I would expect from Vezok town, whether or not I consider them quality posts. Good luck ever finding a game where Vezok demonstrates effort when delivering reads. Link me to a single town game of Vezok's where he was articulate with going through his reads

[MattP]

Espresso says "Are you a PR? Because if that's the case then I want to give you a chance to claim before I lynch you" <--- What the hell does this even mean considering Anatole barely had a wagon / lynch threat on him at that moment

Next Anatole gives Espresso shit for that aforementioned statement

Then Espresso responds "There's no way he's a power role, I was wrong in that initial assumption." <---Nothing Anatole did warranted Espresso concluding that Anatole was not a PR, this is just ridiculous validation of Espresso's scum read on Anatole

[farside22]

Oh hey fake post are all the rage.
Now explain why you think it's fake, since I showed how reck's post were fake.

Before I cater to you and explain something completely subjective, look at the last post and ask yourself how Espresso came to the conclusion that Anatole must not be a PR

I saw a player use those words before.
Give me time and I'll check the game I saw that.

In exchange you explain how reck's comment was not faked reading the quotes I showed

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p6170112

[xRECKONERx]

Reck, if you're not going to respond to farside, I'm not going to stop calling you scum.

I don't exactly know what you want me to respond to because all I see is either [unintelligible garble] or FAKE READS RECK FAKE

[xRECKONERx]

Let's put this in perspective.
Reck states he put the wrong name when he posted his response to myko's case.
If he read the case.
Liked the case
And has tso on his scum list.
Why would he not want to lynch tso if he meant tso and not Matt.

farside isn't even addressing her posts towards me. She's not remotely interested in having a conversation about it, she's latched on to one minor thing that doesn't actually hold up and is trying to shout it from the rooftops at the rest of the game just to try and push a lynch on me.

Posts like the above

do not come from a townie trying to figure out the game

, they come from

scum pushing a one dimensional case so they can tunnel and force a mislynch

.

[MattP]

Can you give a complete timeline of what happened with myko's case, Reck? Starting from you scumreading TSO for meta reasons through you realizing that myko's case was on TSO

[xRECKONERx]

She also quoted my posts out of order to make them look worse.

465: I think flubber is scummy. myko made a solid case on TSO. I had TSO on my list for meta reasons I didn't want to share yet and wanted to wait it out to see if more meta stuff came to light.
493: I explain that I liked myko's case because it felt like genuine effort, but I didn't have Matt as a scum read and didn't want to lynch Matt. (I was misreading the case as myko attacking Matt, not TSO).
498: I reiterate, again, that I liked myko's case, but incorrectly remembering it was MattP on the line, I did not want to lynch MattP.

She's trying to make it look like I didn't want to lynch TSO all along. That's not true. I already had meta reasons for keeping an eye on TSO. When responding to myko's case after the fact, and thinking it was Matt on the line, I did not want to lynch Matt. She's just plugging in one name for the other and pretending like it doesn't change anything contextually, but it does.

Her whole push on me has a) not addressed me directly but instead is addressing other people regarding me, and b) been intellectually dishonest as it presents things out of order or out of context to paint it as worse than it is.

[Csareo]

And the two blocs form. I am confident in my vezok lynch, but am being open minded here. I see these opposing fronts coming into action, and I really want to break one of them apart.
One of these blocs has several scum reads, so can we start there??

[MattP]

Ok, the only thing that seems bizarre is that you were intellectually able to observe Myko's content and praise it for being thoughtful and articulate but simultaneously did not realize that the content wasn't at all geared towards a case on me

[MattP]

And the two blocs form. I am confident in my vezok lynch, but am being open minded here. I see these opposing fronts coming into action, and I really want to break one of them apart.
One of these blocs has several scum reads, so can we start there??

Can you literally just close down your browser and walk away

[xRECKONERx]

Can you give a complete timeline of what happened with myko's case, Reck? Starting from you scumreading TSO for meta reasons through you realizing that myko's case was on TSO

Ugh seriously. Fine.

Pre-446: Start to notice meta things about TSO that have me curious/suspicious.
446: Read myko's case. Think he's town for the genuine effort. Mistakenly remember it as being on Matt and don't want to lynch Matt.
456: I expand, still mistakenly thinking it was on Matt (this is while at work, 40 minutes later, so memory is worse) and explain that I liked that myko seemed to be putting in genuine thought and reasoning, but I didn't agree with it (Because I didn't want to lynch Matt, I had a town read on Matt, so I liked myko's effort but read Matt as town.)
462: I go back and reread the case now and realize it was on TSO and not Matt. Everything makes sense now.
465: I reveal that I had a meta-dependent thing on TSO from earlier but I didn't want to reveal it because it would kind of ruin the experiment.