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Post Post #34225 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:26 am

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No, it doubles from +4 to +8 on SR/ARAM. In Dominion, it instead goes from +5 to +10.

AA stacking on autos doesn't change afaik either....
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Post Post #34226 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:31 am

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JasonWazza wrote:
Iecerint wrote:The stacking rate doubles once you get AAs, if you didn't know. It's +4 vs. +8 per spell cast.

Tear -> RoA -> AA to maximize your ramp-up rate. Get a glacial thing along the way if you need the armor for your match-up, though.


+8 is only Crystal Scar, all you gain is the ability to stack off Auto's (which means you don't have to spam spells.)


Nope. +8 is for Seraph's, but you don't stack off autos. +4 but also stack off autos is for Manamune.
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Post Post #34227 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:50 am

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theelkspeaks wrote:
JasonWazza wrote:
Iecerint wrote:The stacking rate doubles once you get AAs, if you didn't know. It's +4 vs. +8 per spell cast.

Tear -> RoA -> AA to maximize your ramp-up rate. Get a glacial thing along the way if you need the armor for your match-up, though.


+8 is only Crystal Scar, all you gain is the ability to stack off Auto's (which means you don't have to spam spells.)


Nope. +8 is for Seraph's, but you don't stack off autos. +4 but also stack off autos is for Manamune.


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I have no idae how early you expect to finish stacking tear though
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Post Post #34228 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:05 am

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Get tear at start, then rod of ages as ryze

core items: tear, rod of ages, void staff

good itemizations: frozen heart, bveil, will of the ancients, GA
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Post Post #34229 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:11 am

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PSA on Fiora: Fiora is a wonderful and strong champ right now and I feel if you are shit talking her, you don't know very much about top lane.
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Post Post #34230 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:16 am

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Fiora's a strong soloq champion.

Fuck fiora.
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Post Post #34231 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:47 am

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Hmmm, sounds interesting. How do I Fiora?
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Post Post #34232 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:50 am

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If you ask me, you don't play fiora if you know what's good for you.

If you ask my challenger friend, you play her mid and kill everything and everyone all the time like a beast.

Basic fiora build before bt changes: hydra, bt, bt, bt, bt, lw

Basic fiora build after bt changes: hydra, bt, lw, youmuu's, ga, boots
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Post Post #34233 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:09 am

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theelkspeaks wrote:Hmmm, sounds interesting. How do I Fiora?

Mid or top.

Max Q.
Don't max W like every fucktard tells you to.
R>Q>E>W

Never trade/engage with Q down.
Note that you can cast it once again within a four second window.
Note that your E will speed up your Q animation.
Note that your E resets your autoattack.
However, note that Q>AA>E>Q is utterly stupid and you're better off with E>Q>AA(orbwalk)>Q>AA(orbwalk)

Also note that you are quite useless without mana.
You are not Tryndamere.
If you are oom, you don't fight.
Beg for blue if your mid/top doesn't need it more than you do and take it anyways if you can get the chance.

Past 6 don't fight without ult.

21/9/0 AD masteries

have a mix of survivability, AD and ArPen in whatever runepage you plan to use

DBlade+pot > whatever you need
If you're up against a REALLY hard lane go Crystalline Flask+3pot

Core is: Hydra+Youmuus+Last Whisper
Brutalizer>Hydra>Last Whisper>Youmuus is my usual build path
You can vary from it as much as you want (e.g. vamp scepter over brutalizer for a harder lane)
but I highly recommend getting hydra/youmuu/lw for core
grabbing hydra first as your first big item, always

Boots you can go for Mercs or Ionians, depending on your situation
I personally prefer Ionians since CDR on everything is nice because you can kill stuff so much better with CDR
Shoot for mercs most of the time since you aren't a "clownfucker" like me

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and Pantheon will mercilessly grind your face into the floor as he sticks your spear in you

Everything else is outplayable.
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Post Post #34234 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:18 am

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+ You shit on Gnar/Teemo/Kennen/Jayce/Vayne/anything that's ranged with your double gap closer

You shit on any sort of melee mid (Kassadin/Zed/Talon/Fizz/the rare Galio, etc)
oh, and Yasuo
you could be bronze 5 first time fiora and beat a yasuo effortlessly

And with a little bit of fingerwork you can beat the mage mids easily
(they're squishier than you think)

Malphite/Jax/and maybe Tryndamere might give you trouble
grab a 400g mr thing against malphite and build sustain and just farm until 6 and watch for ganks
if jax's counterstrike is down you can go ham on his ass but don't if it isn't
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Renekton's an easy lane if you can follow his dash away from you after he does his w-q thing on you and continue trading
Try to freeze lane against a Nasus after you pressure him very early (levels 1-2)
Riven's a piece of cake if you know her cooldowns well (her CDs have 8-9s, remember that) and very very easy to beat after 6
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Post Post #34235 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:21 am

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in the case that you meet Katarina or a lane Fiddlesticks swap lane immediately
you don't have the cc to deal with them
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Post Post #34236 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:26 am

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you'll probably feed horribly the first time you play her but don't be discouraged and keep playing and sooner or later you'll be 'killing the map' or so to speak
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Post Post #34237 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:33 am

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oh yeah I had a Kat penta on ARAM last night, was fun (and kinda easy / unintentional, except for the final kill - silly MF, of course I'll dive the turret)
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Post Post #34238 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:43 am

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Maestro wrote:oh yeah I had a Kat penta on ARAM last night, was fun (and kinda easy / unintentional, except for the final kill - silly MF, of course I'll dive the turret)

congrats
was it your first penta?
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Post Post #34239 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:55 am

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I had the most fun I've ever had in League last weekend... I was at PAX, and at the lan there they had every champ unlocked... I could finally play ARAM the way it was meant to be played.
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Post Post #34240 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:15 am

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I've only ever got pentas as annie :s

i dont even play her often
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Post Post #34241 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:17 am

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Saki wrote:
Maestro wrote:oh yeah I had a Kat penta on ARAM last night, was fun (and kinda easy / unintentional, except for the final kill - silly MF, of course I'll dive the turret)

congrats
was it your first penta?

No, I've had (I think?) two Jinx pentas before and maybe one other on somebody else?
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Post Post #34242 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:30 am

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PENTAS ARE OVERRATED

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Post Post #34243 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:37 am

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my first penta was on vayne

I got two in the same game
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Post Post #34244 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:37 am

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quadz08 wrote:PENTAS ARE OVERRATED

/support main qq

dw you'll get one
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Post Post #34245 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:04 am

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My first penta was like on Vi.

I have no idea how that actually happened.
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Post Post #34246 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:06 am

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I've never gotten a penta outside of ARAMs. :(
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Post Post #34247 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:35 am

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I've gotten several on Heimer.
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Post Post #34248 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:50 am

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oh man, 1500+ words that are all wrong about fiora. Wonderful.
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Post Post #34249 (ISO) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:11 am

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All right. So playing Tris bottom with Braum. Go down 4v5 fairly early on. Evelyn on my team gets really fed. At some point though I've bought everything I intended to: Infinity Edge, Phantom Dancer, Last Whisper, BotRK, Homeguard boots, upgraded vision totem.

I think I had like 8k saved up on my last recall. What should I have done? Replaced my boots with more offense? Replaced an offensive weapon with a bloodthirster?

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