Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[FourTrouble]

F-16, thoughts on Baboon?

[Baboon Pride]

Sorry guys been crazy busy. Will have time for this in the morning. Expect a blow your mind catch up post. Saving my vote till then as I can't find a vote count in the last few pages. If I was to place a random vote, it would be on Fonz as a welcome back how-do-you-do-vote.

do me a favor and hand me your vote.

[FourTrouble]

Baboon, just to clear something up, I never read what you wrote in the neighborhood. But even if I did, so what? Why is that behavior scummy?

[gossamer wings]

F-16, thoughts on Baboon?

This is Tammy but I'm still leaning town.

Did you take the info from off-5 at face value knowing that he has a tendency for gambiting?

[gossamer wings]

I haven't really processed what happened tonight though.

[FourTrouble]

Tammy, F-16, what do you make of the following:

and, as much as you are willing to push us for being the probable scum within the neighborhood, you very quickly back down from it, and decide to push someone who, generally is an easier target to get lynched.

I thought I had pushed I have no creativity prior to Baboon. So... I don't think I backed down from anything, did I? Which brings me to this:

also... the hidden omgus thing... it's legit, and the fact that you were scared to do a legit omgus, and tried to hide it with mashing us with fonz, a couple hours after I make it known that I think you have the potential to be scum is pretty amusing.

I'm scared? Or is that a narrative Baboon is building? I don't see how "fear" is read into my posts/behaviors? Is Baboon's narrative genuine or contrived? The argument that I'm afraid to OMGUS because I went after I have no creativity isn't very well thought out, right?

Also:

You question my 125 and you yourself, note that you havn't done much, whereas I have made my stances clear early game. Instead of asking people to work with me, I demand it to happen. I grab their attention and push the game forward, on my own voilition. You've done it as a reaction, and only as a reaction. lack of proactivity means a higher chance of you being scum.

Two things. First, I wasn't playing passively, or at least I thought I was active. Comparatively, I'm a lot more active than half the players in the game. I'm also not sure how "asking people to work with me" is passive or scummy? Second, is Baboon's analysis always this mechanical? The "I'm doing X, but you're not doing X, so you're probably scum" argument isn't very good.

[FourTrouble]

I mean, doesn't Baboon's reasoning for their vote boil down to, "FT stole my idea, plus he OMGUS'd me"?? I recognize I'm biased here, but I can't be totally off calling out Baboon's shitty/mechanical analysis, right?

[FourTrouble]

Did you take the info from off-5 at face value knowing that he has a tendency for gambiting?

I wasn't sure if he was telling the truth. Why?

[Honey bee]

Ok hi.
The neighborhood thing I am currently agreeing with FT that this isn't the most reliable information. Not saying that there isn't scum in the neighborhood (a size of 4 there's a good chance for it), but considering how the neighbor list is unknown and there very well may be more than just one scum in the neighborhood, I'm not going to pay too much attention to it because I'm not a part of it.

As for scum reads, I am looking at the fonz 5 off and ND.
-Fonz– I totally agree with ft that not voting lissa was bad. Hesitance to vote always is a scum tell to me and the no reasoning on why rubs me in the wrong way. Plus there's really no point to paying attention to post restrictions anyways so I am perturbed why he focused on players who mentioned it.
Fonz needs to answer FT's q when he get's back.
VOTE: the Fonz
-5 off- Read their iso, a bunch of side questions that I've seen no conclusion to, no pushing for anything. 294 is suppose to be a joke right? It feels out of place with the way the rest of your posts feel. What are your reads as of now?
-Nashville dreaming- This one I can't really explain as much, as it's mostly gut feels with the tammy interactions. I know you want to keep secret, but may you please tell me if one of you have played with me before? This would help my read on you, thanks.

Everyone else is looking decent or null so far. I can't agree with the other cases flying around currently.
Flubbers intro is a bit weird agree, but he promised reads so I'm going to hold off for now.

[I have no creativity]

Hint: nashville probably have fontisian in there. Only she gets agro at me like that

[FourTrouble]

Rereading the game while sober. Still paranoid as hell about Baboon and Fonz. Not sure on I have no creativity. Still find their tone awkward -- especially the summarizing and the threats and understated "trolling" -- but I'm not sure what that means. Inexperienced Townies might, at least arguably, react awkwardly to people interrogating/voting them. Thoughts, anyone?

Honey's post resonates. I hope that guy is town.

[Baboon Pride]

Ok hi.
The neighborhood thing I am currently agreeing with FT that this isn't the most reliable information. Not saying that there isn't scum in the neighborhood (a size of 4 there's a good chance for it), but considering how the neighbor list is unknown and there very well may be more than just one scum in the neighborhood, I'm not going to pay too much attention to it because I'm not a part of it.

As for scum reads, I am looking at the fonz 5 off and ND.
-Fonz– I totally agree with ft that not voting lissa was bad. Hesitance to vote always is a scum tell to me and the no reasoning on why rubs me in the wrong way. Plus there's really no point to paying attention to post restrictions anyways so I am perturbed why he focused on players who mentioned it.
Fonz needs to answer FT's q when he get's back.
VOTE: the Fonz
-5 off- Read their iso, a bunch of side questions that I've seen no conclusion to, no pushing for anything. 294 is suppose to be a joke right? It feels out of place with the way the rest of your posts feel. What are your reads as of now?
-Nashville dreaming- This one I can't really explain as much, as it's mostly gut feels with the tammy interactions. I know you want to keep secret, but may you please tell me if one of you have played with me before? This would help my read on you, thanks.

Everyone else is looking decent or null so far. I can't agree with the other cases flying around currently.
Flubbers intro is a bit weird agree, but he promised reads so I'm going to hold off for now.

Lynches outside the neighborhood isn't happening. Try again

[Cutty Shark]

I'm content to leave Fonz alone for a day because of a thing

Lynches outside the neighborhood isn't happening. Try again

Why? Now that I know it's a large hood, you have a guarantee of 1 scum in 4 people. That's hardly 'must lynch in this group' country

I don't get where you're going with FourTrouble either

-bork

[FourTrouble]

That's a really stupid limitation. We can definitely lynch outside the neighborhood.

[FourTrouble]

Cutty, why leave Fonz alone?

[Cutty Shark]

In case it wasn't clear by the use of 'a thing', don't really want to talk about it.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

you have a guarantee of 1 scum in 4 people.

And this is even excepting the case where there's a silent silent partner that just hasn't posted (because you allegedly don't have a full manifest of people in hood?)
In which case you don't have a guarantee of anything

-b

[Baboon Pride]

almost guaranteed to have scum in the 1 of 4, or, in my perspective, 1 of 3 FT being the most likely of the three. Aside the fact, both Lissa and 5-off have been newb-town, mostly from the neighborhood and Lissa's in thread content has been, as well. As far as "gambit" goes, it's unlikely to come from newb-scum.

pedit: yeah, mostly. What about FT do you not get, and what has he even done that's town?

[Baboon Pride]

Two things. First, I wasn't playing passively, or at least I thought I was active. Comparatively, I'm a lot more active than half the players in the game. I'm also not sure how "asking people to work with me" is passive or scummy? Second, is Baboon's analysis always this mechanical? The "I'm doing X, but you're not doing X, so you're probably scum" argument isn't very good.

He had admitted to only having two posts prior to my 125. Kill?

[Baboon Pride]

not that it actually addresses my proactivity vs reactivity point, in any way shape or form

[FourTrouble]

Baboon, just to clear something up, I never read what you wrote in the neighborhood. But even if I did, so what? Why is that behavior scummy?

[Cutty Shark]

pedit: yeah, mostly. What about FT do you not get, and what has he even done that's town?

Not really interested in defending him right now, I'm trying to understand where

you're

coming from on your #298.

OMGUS is a useless smokescreen. I generally don't give a shit if a person suspects a person that suspects them, or even because they suspect them. FT called you out for having some reads that he can't see the reasoning behind - I read his ISO and that much seems pretty clear to me.

Gotta go to lunch I'll be around after

-b

[Lissa]

I think out of the neighborhood Four is most likely to be scum. And I feel like Baboon is town. Will explain further later.

apologies for being a bit quiet so far. I'm pretty busy today but I will have a more substantial post tomorrow.

[Baboon Pride]

(not responding to scum-reads)

and, well ok. I guess, though you don't think it's weird his activity picked up considerably after I noted that he was likely scum?

I also want to say that his inclination to at least try to work with people he already has as scum is probably scum-oriented, though I've never been one to understand what drives people to work with the ones they have a strong enough scum-read on to actually put a case against the person, and to be ready to lynch them without a second thought. With that point aside, though, Proactivity vs reactivity remains to be my biggest point

I mean, yes he is active but, for the most part, the only content he's given so far is "neighborhood info" and a few reads, along with trying to talk with our slot, which is essentially fluff because he has played with me (Mara) before, and he knows I have zero inclination to talk to anyone who I believe has an actual chance of being scum, regardless of being in hydra or not

[I have no creativity]

I think out of the neighborhood Four is most likely to be scum. And I feel like Baboon is town. Will explain further later.

apologies for being a bit quiet so far. I'm pretty busy today but I will have a more substantial post tomorrow.

I feel like makign a town block soon with who i trust.

I do agree on this though with 4, he seems to be fidigeting on who is scum in neighborhood.

VOTE: trouble

adding on, if 4 is town i would look at baboon next for the scum in the hood.

i will add in that many of his post seem to be appeasing others to try to get them to vote people.

im going to grab the player list and do a updated read list. i ask everyone does the same