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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:10 pm

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(3) - Malakittens, phokdapolees, shaddowez
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:17 pm

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@SK
, you forgot to replace Oso with BPC in the votecount.

Anywho, I'm going to do this just because I feel like it/because Oso was replaced, so why not.

Unvote

VOTE: shaddowez

I'm completely behind on this game and there's no chance in hell that I'm ever going to be in the mood to catch up so if there's anything super interesting to point out to me please do so.
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:59 am

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implosion wrote:
@SK
, you forgot to replace Oso with BPC in the votecount.

Anywho, I'm going to do this just because I feel like it/because Oso was replaced, so why not.

Unvote

VOTE: shaddowez

I'm completely behind on this game and there's no chance in hell that I'm ever going to be in the mood to catch up so if there's anything super interesting to point out to me please do so.

Are you serious? There are only 4 pages for you to read. That's not a lot.
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:35 am

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, you forgot to replace Oso with BPC in the votecount.

Fixed, thanks.

I am beginning replacement searches for Grandi and chaoslord54. If they post before I find a replacement for their slot, they keep it.
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EDIT: sthar8 replaces Grandi and ZZZX replaces chaoslord54.
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:08 am

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So, many replacements! Anyway, looking back at yesterday's votes, I think Phok is unlikely to be scum.
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:09 am

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BOOM!

I'm a little busy today, but I'll read up tonight!
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:26 am

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Hi, Sthar8! ^_^
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:12 am

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Hey Anen! I'm doing this one just like BPC's game, but with more proficiency. If you remember what I required upon replacing in, go do it please!
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:13 am

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tman2nd wrote:
implosion wrote:
@SK
, you forgot to replace Oso with BPC in the votecount.

Anywho, I'm going to do this just because I feel like it/because Oso was replaced, so why not.

Unvote

VOTE: shaddowez

I'm completely behind on this game and there's no chance in hell that I'm ever going to be in the mood to catch up so if there's anything super interesting to point out to me please do so.

Are you serious? There are only 4 pages for you to read. That's not a lot.

Yeah, I didn't say it's a matter of amount, it's a matter of mood, i.e. I'm lazy right now.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:25 pm

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Aneninen wrote:What have you found reading Chaos? Also, besides it's a PoE (as far as I know), are there any reasons for your Shadowez vote?

I'll want to wait for ZZZX before I make any judgements about the slot, but all I want to say is that I've become cautious. As for shaddowez, it's still mostly PoE, but I liked implosion's case and I also feel that Shaddowez being the only townread of Flames from that I could see being scum implicates him somewhat. This is because I think less experienced scum would try to sneak a buddy into their townreads. BPC is the other vote I'm considering and I will probably wait for more posts from him, but I have the tendency to be paranoid there. My guess at the moment is that he's scum, but I can't really tell yet.

shaddowez wrote:So I haven't done anything, but I'm your second best bet on being scum? I'd like to point out that this vote came after me reading your slot as scum, and saying you haven't done anything to change that mind. On that same note, the rest of this post doesn't really do anything to do so either. There's more words without saying much.

(This post is short because it's primarily a prod dodge, will post again tomorrow)

I've already expressed the opinion that you were the second best bet for scum. You were in the top 3 as early as and undeniably second in , yet you only have a problem with it now that I'm voting for you.

implosion wrote:I'm completely behind on this game and there's no chance in hell that I'm ever going to be in the mood to catch up so if there's anything super interesting to point out to me please do so.

Don't worry too much about catching up. Just go from here and if you ever feel like it you can read back a bit.
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:24 pm

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First off, slot replacement on my current vote, so until I hear more
UNVOTE:

DeasVail wrote:I've already expressed the opinion that you were the second best bet for scum. You were in the top 3 as early as 488 and undeniably second in 496, yet you only have a problem with it now that I'm voting for you.


More of the problem was that you didn't bother to vote for me until I expressed suspicion of your slot.

DeasVail wrote:Don't worry too much about catching up. Just go from here and if you ever feel like it you can read back a bit


I really don't like this. That's like telling a replacement to not worry about what their slot did or what happened in the rest of the game. Views and opinions should be based on all interactions - any future reads are easily subject to bias by doing this.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:55 pm

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Malakittens wrote:
Aneninen wrote:Tman: my scumread on you is based upon the Day1 vote movement (...)

yeah not sure if this makes him scum. Why would scumbuddy jump off a wagon that he knows will get lynched in teh future due to fake claiming.
doesn't make sense, sorry~


I have been thinking. You may be right.

UNVOTE:


Malakittens wrote:hmm, I thought I saw a post that made someone town. I actually thought it was Chaos, but it in fact wasn't. I need to find that post right now.1

@agar: Why are you more confident that scum-day talk is becoming more popular in normal games?2


(1) Have you found it yet?
(2) Given that it's not mentioned in the setup, I assume that there's no Mafia Daytalk. I don't think it has become more popular.

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@BipolarChemist,
On AGar: lol, he's not a girl ^_^ Otherwise, I agree
On Chaos: that Day1 defence on Flames might have been a bad read on him too. Or at least, that would be a lame gameplay from a scum.
On MalaKitty: WIFOM? You told us that we should ask questions. Here is one: why?
On me: ...you know me, aren't you, ^_^ A couple of games and there will be a standard "Aneninen is just being Aneninen" phrase for that.
On Phokdapolees: he's definitely not the most exciting one here but what if he's bored?
On Grandi: I wouldn't say anything now. Rack appeared to be scummy but we need much more content from this slot. Much more!

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Unvote

Vote: shaddowez

I'm completely behind on this game and
there's no chance in hell that I'm ever going to be in the mood to catch up
so if there's anything super interesting to point out to me please do so.


Uhhh... I must agree with Tman's next post (552), that highlighted part was weak.
Do something "stronger", please. As a start, post something about Shadowez. Do you have any new reads on him?

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sthar8 wrote:Hey Anen! I'm doing this one just like BPC's game, but with more proficiency. If you remember what I required upon replacing in, go do it please!


Well, at least we can do this only better than that one ^_^
As for your request, apart from Neil's fake-Cop claim there were no other claims and Night Actions (apart from the kill).
Tammy was pro-town. (Flipped VT.)
Your slot was considered scummy during the era of Rack, though that quickwagon against Rack was disturbing. Grandi provided very little content, merely a readlist without any reasoning.
As far as I know, the following slots are considered scum by certain players: Oso/BipolarChemist, Chaoslord/ZZZX, Shadowez. Maybe Phokdapolees. You could start examining those. Mind that BipolarChemist and ZZZX are fresh replacements as well.

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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:17 pm

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God dammit BPC.

UNVOTE:

This is a bad post. And he's just up and hopped on the Chaos wagon, which makes me feel real uneasy about that wagon. Seems very off with his presence there.

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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:32 pm

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Hey everyone. ZZZX is here.
This game seems interesting so yea I need to get reading first.

Unvote
nust in case i was voting someone
Implosion: I see ZZZX was lynched. For shame, people. For shame.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:35 pm

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Hi, ZZZX!

AGar, why had been that post you mentioned that bad?
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:48 am

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shaddowez wrote:First off, slot replacement on my current vote, so until I hear more
UNVOTE:

Why unvote just because he's been replaced?
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:17 am

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I always do that... Did it for the Flames/Neil replace too. Unless I'm extremely confident in my read, or there's an investigative claim against a slot, I like to hear from the replacement to make sure it's not a play style thing I wasn't liking.

This was a phone post, will have more to contribute later
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:05 am

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Malakittens has been prodded.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:27 am

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More thoughts on slots! (hehe rhyme)! One more to go but I'm hungry and am going to grab some supper!

Spoiler: Shaddowez
Intially my issue with you is that I find a lot of your posts contain such general statements, there’s a lot of, not necessarily fluff, but nothing concrete in them, it almost feels like a dodge of actually having something down that would cause someone to question what you’re posting. A good example is post , lots of things that just are going with the flow, nothing dangerous, such a safe post. And then 20 in game posts later you give a nothing statement of nothing being sure about your vote then ask a fairly nonrelevant question ().
Past this initial stage of the game, I still see the general comments, except for one player, in his posts. Shaddowez, you seem to really enjoy going back for Elias and pretty much only Elias for a good while, yet at not one point do you vote him or really push for that lynch. Then posts like post make me feel like you are scum ‘saving’ a townie from a lynch. I might be tunneling a bit here, but I’m just getting weird ass vibes off of you.
Now for Day 2, I like what I’m seeing now, more branching out of your reads. Nothing too substantial until….. Ummm, I’m trying to make something of this and I just don’t know…I uhhh. If you think the slot is scummy, why not keep a vote on and pressure them or something? This feels like you were looking for an out and took the first chance.
Anyways, I don’t know about you and you’re sketching me out a bit.


Spoiler: Implosion
implosion wrote:Flames isn't scummy though.

Autoscum! WIFOM!
I actually don’t have too many thoughts on your slot! I like the thought process usually, some decent stuff! I think I might be confident in your towniness the most! This might be a bit of gut though! :O I dunno, I just like you. Hmm.
Ooo, one thing though, in post this goes with what Shaddowez did, so I must ask, why unvote for seemingly no reason? Why not pressure me or something with your vote, especially if you think my slot is in the top 5 for being scum?


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I mean, yeah I picked up on that. I also picked up that the majority of your posts add nothing worthwhile to the discussion.

Thus far, this is the impression I actually have been getting from your slot. I see some questions but nothing really followed up on and overall boring. Post feels like an avoidance of trying to pick up their game at all. The avoidance of the question is actually hilarious, I actually like that this slot didn’t get mad or react heavily to it calling Rack scum, as that could have easily been done. I’m actually liking this slot for town so far. Vote for Flames was meeeeh okay. The reasoning was a bit weak to throw someone at L-2, but ehhh. Really just a boring vote, something that has been a running thing with this slot so far :P Only issue there is the jumping off the wagon a few posts later, could be iffy, but nothing substantial right now. The blatantly being against the Niel vote thing actually yells more town to me, sounds like honestly not being sure, as I’d expect scum to more be for the vote to garner townie points. So what I got from Elias was a townie feel ^.^
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First of all: <3. I hate trying to read you! And Yep, I can’t. I feel like your slot is town and I continue to feel like that but I know you’re crafty! Grrr. Going purely off of previous reads, I think you are town.
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:57 pm

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Thought tman2nd would take me longer to read! Didn't surprisingly!

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Can I start by saying I think you’re snark is hilarious? There’s something about post that reads town to me. It’s like his thought process came about as he was writing it instead of having a predetermined “I’m going after this person” thing.
Awww dude, I’m sad with the flaking, I was liking your stuff :( Let’s see some pick-up here! Right now I still think you ooze town though :P
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:03 pm

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phokdapolees wrote:
BipolarChemist wrote:YOU’RE BORING. BE MORE INTERESTING.
I'll try my best

Btw I didn't defend Oso, I said in that post that I think a neil/chaos/oso scumteam is the most likely possibility


Yeah, I agree, maybe not so much a defend, but one of the first to kinda be like "Yo guys give some slack here", something that I think would be a possibly good thing for scum to be able to plant and point back to.

tman2nd wrote:
Are you serious? There are only 4 pages for you to read. That's not a lot.


I actually laughed out loud at this. I <3 U, Tman. Whatchu think bout his extreme laziness?

sthar8 wrote:BOOM!

I'm a little busy today, but I'll read up tonight!


Not this asshole :/


AGar wrote:God dammit BPC.

UNVOTE:



You know you love me and you know that I'm town! To quote Tammy: "I'm always town!"

ZZZX wrote:Hey everyone. ZZZX is here.
This game seems interesting so yea I need to get reading first.

Unvote
nust in case i was voting someone


Ugh not this asshole :/
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:05 pm

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Oh and DV, come on. Buddy, come on. I'm town, you're probably town, let's just work together, okay? We can do this! Let's start with your feelings on Malakittens, please! You say some things she does doesn't feel like scum, but do you think she's town at all?
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:17 pm

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BipolarChemist wrote:Oh and DV, come on. Buddy, come on. I'm town, you're probably town, let's just work together, okay? We can do this! Let's start with your feelings on Malakittens, please! You say some things she does doesn't feel like scum, but do you think she's town at all?

I'll consider it. <3

And regarding Malakittens, those are the same thing as far as I'm concerned.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:32 pm

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Hmmm. Was there anything that jumped out at you about her being town?
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:59 pm

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BipolarChemist wrote:
phokdapolees wrote:
BipolarChemist wrote:YOU’RE BORING. BE MORE INTERESTING.
I'll try my best

Btw I didn't defend Oso, I said in that post that I think a neil/chaos/oso scumteam is the most likely possibility


Yeah, I agree, maybe not so much a defend, but one of the first to kinda be like "Yo guys give some slack here", something that I think would be a possibly good thing for scum to be able to plant and point back to.
This is a blatant misrep, I never said anything like that. In my post 507, I said that I agreed with Agar's points, and even went beyond that and talked about Riabi's iso as well about my scumread on him.
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