Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

I did think I possibly over-reacted to Jordan's non-sense on day one and figured I painted a neon-sign that I was a GGRP. Fortunately it was only neon to me.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

I'm out
I'm totally out

I better come back to skot hanging from a tree or I'm probably just going to hang myself

guess you are going to hang yourself then...

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

nice appeal to emotion by saki though, he is really trying hard...

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

oh and if town decides to mislynch me after I did the heavy lifting, then, oh well... it would be par for course. I am satisfied with how I performed my role.

[Bulbazak]

Field Polarity:

Light

Vote Count

Saki (1): Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (0):
Xayzeck (0):
DrippingGoofball (0):
Jordan_Downey (0):
RachMarie (0):

Not Voting (5): RachMarie, Saki, Xayzeck, DrippingGoofball, Jordan_Downey

It is day 7. With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends on Wednesday, September 24 at 1:45am EST. Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-24 01:45:00).

[DrippingGoofball]

Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

Obviously the scum has inside information about who the SK is, and that the SK is BP.

But the SK is aiming for scum so...

[DrippingGoofball]

Saki and SKOT are both bleeding town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

Obviously the scum has inside information about who the SK is, and that the SK is BP.

But the SK is aiming for scum so...

This post was premature. I hadn't seen SKOT's claim when I wrote this.

[DrippingGoofball]

oh and if town decides to mislynch me after I did the heavy lifting, then, oh well... it would be par for course. I am satisfied with how I performed my role.

I'll sheep you all day but Saki is frustrated aggressive town.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

No he is not, he is scum trying to come off as frustrated aggressive town. Why are being so stubborn?

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

It is a scum tell, especially where I come from that scum often excessively focus on some factors that take attention off of them. In this case, the scum team had it in mind that there was a SK (not a vig). So they started talking about it. TD went on and on and on how Xay has to be a SK. Saki comes in today again focused on SK. It is a scum tell. There are related ones to that, but it does happen quite often and is happening here.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

"But Pere, you're not voting Saki!"

Yeah, he could be an innocent victim of whiteknighting/buddying/<insert mafia buzzword>

Tip's 180 on me, although I'm thankful for it, feels forced, somewhat
maybe I'm just paranoid

So, question is, is he?

Vote: TiphaineDeath

For 3483 and 3446[/post

]. And if he flips scum we can lynch scum-Saki with full confide

nce.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

oh and DGB after leading the PN mislynch... well you really should sheep here in spite of your declaration of skaki as aggressive town. You clearly have been wrong on some things. Well, unless you are scum partner with Saki...

[Xayzeck]

really late right now, but i'll catch up on the last page or two tmr morning

[Jordan_Downey]

DGB, we had a question for you.

SKOT- Where did the third kill come from then if you are so sure there isn't an SK? Do you think at this point SCUM had a one shot extra kill? Did you have two shots at some point? Because with all the flips there isn't a way this is multiball.

The fact there isn't a CC claim to SKOT yet either means someone is still not on board, or he's actually vig although I could see him thinking he could 1v1 at least for another night, mislynch and a kill who two puts him close to wining the game as scum/sk, but then certainly gets him there for town as well, so we'll see. Still doesn't explain the three kill night, and it's adamant stance there is no SK concerns me that he's the one pulling the trigger. So I don't have time to consult with jingle and he's more experienced but there is where I stand on the game.

TOWN PILE-
SKOT: Vig. I do agree that SKOT repeating he is town is a concern to me. You post something and people read it enough it starts effecting they'll judgment. It's a manipulative play. Same with his attempt currently to strong arm DGB. All red flags. My assumption with his play is he isn't scum, but maybe he's the third party we are looking for.

UNSURE.
RachMarie: lurksack even considering whatever is going on. In a newbie game with her as IC she conceded that she lurks as scum and it's a valid tactic. If she does it in that situation I'd see her doing it in this game.
Saki: Still would love DGBs reasons Saki is town. I definately don't by the cop having a scum read on saki, means saki is scum.
Xayzeck: Hasn't really contributed much to the game. But from what I've seen is common to parrot whatever is going on.
DrippingGoofball: Still waiting on reasons Saki is town.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

I did not say there is no SK as I have stated I do not have an explanation for the 3rd kill that night. No one has taken credit for it. So could there be an odd random player that had a kill that is an indy type certainly. Is there a SK who has always been off on polarity match, perhaps. That is all unknown. It has only happened the 1 time.
As to my "double use of I am town in one post." I post as I think. Sure, you can sell it as manipulation, but it is not and that manipulation really does not work. Everyone calls self town and often more then once. I do it all the time regardless of alignment. I also post as I think. Often times when I post something I inadvertently leave stuff off or repeat my self. I am often redundant.

Oh and the claim that I am strong arming DGB is silly. I am stating my opinion strongly, sure. Certainly not strong arming. However, that post is written or seems to be with the perspective of trying to convince others of a way.

[Jordan_Downey]

well then let me tell you what... I know there is a vig, because it is me.
I killed Titus, Ki-Gi, and TD. I also tried to kill Zzzx but my polarity is off. I had thought of killing you based on PV's suggestion but I opted for Zzzx instead. I have no idea who killed Double- as no one has taken responsibility for that kill and it was not me. There is no serial killer.

How can that last sentence be any clearer? Also how does repetition not actually influence people? You do realize that is a big stand by in marketing which has a firm basis in psychological studies. Either it means you are trying to convince others your yourself. Maybe your the unique one of situation of all of man kind but unlikely. Rather you are purposefully trying to be manipulative is to be figured out. Not to mention you pretty much just threated DGB ...

oh and DGB after leading the PN mislynch... well you really should sheep here in spite of your declaration of skaki as aggressive town. You clearly have been wrong on some things. Well, unless you are scum partner with Saki...

You pushed a mislynch yesterday. You are scum if you don't help lynch saki today. That is what that says. Period.

But other then trying to point out a poor tactic that hopefully you'll take thought in, this discussion isn't going to further the game for us. I really want rach to actually get in here and play, though I'm starting to think she might just play poorly as scum and that's why she lurks. As everyone seems to want to let lurkers lurk until the endgame, and hopefully DGB provides some good insight here as well.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

How can that last sentence be any clearer? Also how does repetition not actually influence people? You do realize that is a big stand by in marketing which has a firm basis in psychological studies. Either it means you are trying to convince others your yourself. Maybe your the unique one of situation of all of man kind but unlikely. Rather you are purposefully trying to be manipulative is to be figured out. Not to mention you pretty much just threated DGB ...

I was clear in my statement. I do not believe there is a SK. As I am responsible for Titus, Ki-Gi, and TD. Now where the Doublade kill came I do not know. It could be an indy, but a serial killer with one kill is odd.
I did not say repetition does not manipulate people or cause any influence. I have stated that there was no intent to be repetitive in my post. I had flat forgotten that I had already stated it as I post as I think. The kind of nonsense you are spewing has been used over and over to lead mislynches around here. The worst kind of mislynch where you actually are convinced something that is not so. And yes, I am trying to convey the truth to others about me being town. So, yes there is persuasion going on. But you suggestion that "repetition" is always purposeful is patently absurd and fails to take into account basic human engagement.
As to DGB, I posed no threat to DGB, any reading threat into it is not related to the words I said. If I am threatening someone there is no room for error, you will know it.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

You pushed a mislynch yesterday. You are scum if you don't help lynch saki today. That is what that says. Period.

No what it says was is simply put. DGB, you pushed a mislynch, listen to me and get off your defense of Saki. Of course if you are scum, keep on defending Saki. Your read of my words is projection and inference.

[RachMarie]

I am VT

I have always been Light which is what I chose at the beginning.

I still am Light

[RachMarie]

JD I have not been lurking, I have been V/LA a lot and I have been having a lot of issues, hence the reason I replaced out of all my newbie games where I was IC.

I have not signed up for any new games either.

I will probably after the last games finish take a break til after we are moved and settled in TN.

[DrippingGoofball]

It is a scum tell, especially where I come from that scum often excessively focus on some factors that take attention off of them. In this case, the scum team had it in mind that there was a SK (not a vig). So they started talking about it. TD went on and on and on how Xay has to be a SK. Saki comes in today again focused on SK. It is a scum tell. There are related ones to that, but it does happen quite often and is happening here.

Alright then.

VOTE: Saki

[Jordan_Downey]

It is a scum tell, especially where I come from that scum often excessively focus on some factors that take attention off of them. In this case, the scum team had it in mind that there was a SK (not a vig). So they started talking about it. TD went on and on and on how Xay has to be a SK. Saki comes in today again focused on SK. It is a scum tell. There are related ones to that, but it does happen quite often and is happening here.

The most compelling case I've seen on Saki yet. Why the fuck couldn't this be said yesterday?

@Rach- I have great sympathy for your RL issues, but they don't help me with your alignment. On the other hand, I hope you have an easy move and love the new neighborhood.

TSO, Light Locked Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.

Nero Cain, Town Deflector, killed Night 2. His polarity was Dark at the time of his death.
Shiny Hydreigon, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2. Their polarity was Light at the time of their death.

Doublade, Mafia Goon, killed Night 3. Their polarity was Dark at the time of their death.
Malakittens, Town Polar Shifter, killed Night 3. Her polarity was Dark at the time of her death.

Titus, Dark Locked Mafia Goon, killed Night 3.

Ki-Gi, Mafia Polar Majority, killed Night 4. His polarity was Dark at the time of his death.

Dry-fit, Dark Locked Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4.

PeregrineV, Town Cop, killed Night 5. His polarity was Dark at the time of his death.

TiphaineDeath, Light Locked Mafia Goon, killed Night 6.

Ika, Town Polar Linker, killed Night 6. His polarity was Light at the time of his death.

This leaves two days of two unclaimed kills.

We need to discuss the whole SKOT dynamic in our hydra QT, but I fully believe he has been acting in a protown manner. The shots he's claimed make sense. That he wasn't concerned after N2 about a possible SK when neither kill was his is mildly concerning.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

heh, I failed to recall a 2nd death on night 2. So that is 2 deaths unaccounted for.

[Bulbazak]

Bump.