Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Nashville Dreams]

nashvill has titus in there, that or mathblade. i assume the former

shes the only one who uses that phrase to me

Full disclosure, FT made my eyes glaze over within his first two sentences on page 24 and I didn't read the rest of his posts on said page. Also, if Nashville's remotely sane head isn't Titus I will eat my walking stick.
-Ceph

Maybe the balls are tasty?

Sanity is a scum tell for Titus by the by. >_>

Funny how Cephir comes in suggesting I'm Titus right after ika does even though none of the crumbs were directed at him. Then comes the fascination with me outing my identity. Tammy's responding to Cephir's comment that I'm Titus.

Then, all of a sudden, ika has no clue who I am in the hydra. That's bullshit. I let it go and deliver a few more crumbs. One of them was that I'd have to call ika emotionally inconsistent. ika said he revoked my right to read anyone based off their emotions. Yet, he forgets that entirely too.

Yeah, that's bullshit.



[Carrie:] Do you remember the way it felt?
[Brad:] You mean back when we couldn't control ourselves
[Carrie:] Remind me
[Brad:] Yeah, remind me
[Carrie:]
All those things that you used to do
That made me fall in love with you
Remind me, oh, baby, remind me



As for Csareo being scum, now that I'm outing myself, might as well go full monte. Csareo in the newbie game I mentored for him was all about analyzing strategy. Here, there is not a drop of analysis from Csareo in sight. I have been crumbing that very slightly in the posts with Csareo. Most posts talking about just him tend to have some military reference.

Csareo has also played on other sites. My bet is those sites valued randomness more. Has anyone ever played on a site where a flavor cop had for random people? It's pretty universal the flavor cop isn't random. However, someone designing a fake claim for themselves might go the random route. It's the easiest to fake after all.



ika, checkmate. Now, whichever of ika or Csareo flips I don't care.

Then we can talk about Csareo and Tammy.

[Cutty Shark]

RIGHT NOW I HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCHT HE ONLY PERON WHO HAS POSTED IN THE DAMN THREAD.

??

ika, please explain this statement. Was it about beast?

we have the hydra of us here and then out qt.

so far all ( maybe minus a few early ones) have been by me.

out qt is compiled of 15 posts with the last one being on the 7th by beast.

as of now i have been doing like everything in this damn game and feels less like a hydra and more like just me playing

Ok, thanks. I was slightly confused because I thought you'd said beast had made *zero* posts in this thread.

[Cutty Shark]

So are you Titus
Because it looks like you're saying you're Titus but I want to make 100% sure
I totally thought you were Titus ftr

[Cutty Shark]

I have been crumbing that very slightly in the posts with Csareo. Most posts talking about just him tend to have some military reference.

What's the point of crumbing that? What does that accomplish?

[Nashville Dreams]

Yes, it's titus

~M

[Cutty Shark]

Has anyone ever played on a site where a flavor cop had for random people? It's pretty universal the flavor cop isn't random. However, someone designing a fake claim for themselves might go the random route. It's the easiest to fake after all.

...
What?
Can you rephrase the entire quoted section?

[I have no creativity]

KILL WITH FIRE VOTE NASHVILL

I WILL SHOVE A FUCKING LYNCH DOWN YOUR THOAT RIGHT FUCKING NOW IF YOU THINK IM SCUM. DO YOU REMEBER LAST FICKING GAME WE HAD THIS SHIT? YOU WERE A FUCKASS SCUM YOU ARE DYING RIGHT HERE RIGHT FUCKING NOW. THIS IS THE LYCNH THAT IS GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN I AM NOT MOVING MY FUCKING VOTE FROM THIS SHIT

[I have no creativity]

I REFUSE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL THAT SLOT IS DEAD WITH FIRE.

TITUS HAS OFFICIALLY LOST HER LICENCE TO READ ME IF SHES FUCKING TOWN

[gossamer wings]

My guess was that it was Titus because she referenced a game of csareo's and I found a newbie he played with Titus. He did do more analysis in that game.

I did not think it was Titus at the time I made that joke though as I thought the interaction with me was weird for Titus.

[Cutty Shark]

Also if you're going to explain your Csareo crumbs, might as well point them out too.

[Nashville Dreams]

The fireyball of rage we call Ika is all titus'. I'm not touching this at all.

The scumread totally makes a whole lot of sense now on Csaero, but that doesn't make him scum, imo.

~M

[gossamer wings]

My concern about Csaero wasn't wholly based on finding that game, though that didn't help. What concerns me is that he has the potential for analysis, but he came in, did his thing and disappeared while posting onsite.

While I don't think the posting other games is the hugest scum tell, it is concerning the way he went about it. He hasn't been back, and is due a prod, and he's been onsite.

[Cutty Shark]

I had the Mala guess down early

but I'd never have guessed Titus in a million years. Not after x-men.

-b

[Nashville Dreams]

My concern about Csaero wasn't wholly based on finding that game, though that didn't help. What concerns me is that he has the potential for analysis, but he came in, did his thing and disappeared while posting onsite.

While I don't think the posting other games is the hugest scum tell, it is concerning the way he went about it. He hasn't been back, and is due a prod, and he's been onsite.

Hm. Yeah I haven't even decided to check activity levels of the newer players. I'm just so 'eh' about this game due to everything, but I'm luckily back in it now that I'm outed and everything is sorting itself out.

I should probably go reread that game.

~M

[FourTrouble]

Tammy, I can understand where F-16 and you are coming from with the "why do you think I'm town" question. I should have waited before commenting, to see where you went with it. Context makes all the difference. But I don't play much mafia these days, and I'm rusty and forgetful, and apparently a bad communicator too, so I fucked that up. But I don't think you guys are scum, and that's not why I said it's a minor scum-tell, though I still think the question isn't that helpful to determining alignment of good players, since they're gonna spot town-tells as scum. You can disagree with me here if you think I'm wrong, but at least in my experience, if I "know" someone is town, spotting their town-tells is much easier. Which is why I think scum have an easy time explaining their town-reads, and why I think the question theoretically doesn't help sort good players' alignments. Anyway. Regarding Anatole, I get what you're saying about his explanation being too "convenient," but at the same time, I'd expect better reasoning from him if he were scum. So it's hard to make much of his read + explanation. I also don't see why he'd lie about his actions in another game -- cause if he's scum, he's going through a lot of trouble to "fabricate" a read on you. It would be so much easier to just look for a couple posts with town-tells, andd point them out knowing that you're town and that he's not even making shit up.

[Cutty Shark]

Yo FT
Questioning a townread is scummy, right?
How come you refuted 5-off's attempt to clear you for still being here?
(btw, I read one of the threads he linked, and you totally did disappear once someone quoted you saying that you replace out as scum)

[Cutty Shark]

I feel like you're using the term "town tell" much more loosely than you should be. Same with scum tell maybe.

[FourTrouble]

My concern about Csaero wasn't wholly based on finding that game, though that didn't help. What concerns me is that he has the potential for analysis, but he came in, did his thing and disappeared while posting onsite.

When you say he has the potential for analysis, wouldn't that imply that he can fake reasoning as scum, too? I feel like what he did was so over-the-top careless that he's gotta just be town.

[FourTrouble]

Yo FT
Questioning a townread is scummy, right?
How come you refuted 5-off's attempt to clear you for still being here?
(btw, I read one of the threads he linked, and you totally did disappear once someone quoted you saying that you replace out as scum)

Asking why someone thinks you're town is a minor scum-tell, taken alone. I'll stand by that. But refuting someone's attempt to clear you -- that's a town-tell, since it goes against scum's best interests. Those are two different things. What F-16/Tammy were doing -- at least arguably -- was refuting Anatole's town-read. I didn't wait long enough to find out, so I spoke too quickly. That was my bad.

Regarding that threat, I disappeared from the discussion cause I didn't feel like discussing the issue anymore. Those people think I flake as scum, and they're free to think that. Doesn't mean it's true. There is no evidence of that, and it's completely false. What happened is for a long time, I only replaced into games where I was certain the slot was town. So I got a reputation for only playing as town. Then World Fair happened, where I had to replace out before the game started because the mod refused to start the game a week late. I happened to get a scum role. People lynched me because I replaced out. And then the reputation that I replace out as scum became a thing. It's not actually true though.

[FourTrouble]

I feel like you're using the term "town tell" much more loosely than you should be. Same with scum tell maybe.

Yes, probably.

[gossamer wings]

My concern about Csaero wasn't wholly based on finding that game, though that didn't help. What concerns me is that he has the potential for analysis, but he came in, did his thing and disappeared while posting onsite.

When you say he has the potential for analysis, wouldn't that imply that he can fake reasoning as scum, too? I feel like what he did was so over-the-top careless that he's gotta just be town.

I only briefly looked at that one newbie game and he was town. The impression I got from his entrance was clueless newbie who was a bit of a VI so I didn't take him seriously all that much. But after Titus mentioned his meta, I looked at that game to see if that was consistent with my impression. I didn't look through all his meta to see what his scum game looked like, just noticed that my original thought was wrong. Then, I've noticed him onsite both yesterday and today while ignoring this game, which is concerning.

I mean he could be someone who is rather new and realized he did something silly and doesn't want to come back, but I don't have a way of figuring that one out.

[Cutty Shark]

Mara... Explain the Mala read to the best of your ability.

please and thank you

-b

[Cutty Shark]

I only briefly looked at that one newbie game and he was town. The impression I got from his entrance was clueless newbie who was a bit of a VI so I didn't take him seriously all that much. But after Titus mentioned his meta, I looked at that game to see if that was consistent with my impression. I didn't look through all his meta to see what his scum game looked like, just noticed that my original thought was wrong. Then, I've noticed him onsite both yesterday and today while ignoring this game, which is concerning.

I mean he could be someone who is rather new and realized he did something silly and doesn't want to come back, but I don't have a way of figuring that one out.

He very obviously didn't get any actual info from anyone (apparently already knew stuff ABOUT my character rather than just his name).
I think the only plausible scum motivation is that he hoped acting like a dipshit would get him some townreads.

That's just hard for me to swallow

-b

[Cutty Shark]

I only briefly looked at that one newbie game and he was town. The impression I got from his entrance was clueless newbie who was a bit of a VI so I didn't take him seriously all that much. But after Titus mentioned his meta, I looked at that game to see if that was consistent with my impression. I didn't look through all his meta to see what his scum game looked like, just noticed that my original thought was wrong. Then, I've noticed him onsite both yesterday and today while ignoring this game, which is concerning.

I mean he could be someone who is rather new and realized he did something silly and doesn't want to come back, but I don't have a way of figuring that one out.

He very obviously didn't get any actual info from anyone (apparently already knew stuff ABOUT my character rather than just his name).
I think the only plausible scum motivation is that he hoped acting like a dipshit would get him some townreads.

That's just hard for me to swallow

-b

And the (misplaced) belief that we could break the game with flavor seemed earnest.

[Cutty Shark]

Thanks FT. That's all for now.