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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:45 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:Cutty Shark, I'm working on explaining why this highly suggests Csareo is scum. it also includes why ika is scum. Also with the fact Csareo hasn't alluded to what the scum's allegeded plan is. As town, he thinks in those manners. But we'll set that aside for purposes of this argument. I might not have it done by the time I get back to work though.

ika, then you can't fix gotta lynch Titus. :-p Aka can't fix stupid. Sorry man but I'm pretty sure you drew scum. You're ignoring a CC you highlighted to push me. I mean what the fuck?

oh great
How much experience do you have with Csareo? Just the one game?
What CC?
Answer my crumb question?
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:46 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:ika, then you can't fix gotta lynch Titus. :-p Aka can't fix stupid. Sorry man but I'm pretty sure you drew scum. You're ignoring a CC you highlighted to push me. I mean what the fuck?



VOTE TO FUCKING KILL NASHVILL

TITUS AS TOWN KNOWS FULL WELL MY META AND THE FACT SHE DOESNT CALL ME OBVITOWN YET IS

A) A FUCKING SHITTY GAMBIT
B) TITUS BEING HIGH ON LIFE AND HAS LOST IT
C) SHES A FUCKING SCUMBUTT
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:47 am

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AND IF SHE IS TOWN I'M REVOKING HER LICENCE TO EVER READ ME PROPERLY AGAIN

I DON'T SEE YOUR VOTE PARKED ON ME RIGHT NOW. PUT YOUR VOTE WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:52 am

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oh yeah just gonna add that neither head of Nashville reacting *at all* to our vote is weird
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:56 am

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Spoiler: relevant quotes from Csareo, AK and Baboon
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Csareo wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:My character is on TV because he is a magician, but the flavor hints that he found a real spellbook.

Okay, this is most likely bullshit. Unless there are two magicians, one of the two character flavors I didn't out is also a magician.
What's his name?


Maximillian

Csareo wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Csareo wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:My character is on TV because he is a magician, but the flavor hints that he found a real spellbook.

Okay, this is most likely bullshit. Unless there are two magicians, one of the two character flavors I didn't out is also a magician.
What's his name?


Maximillian

Holy shit, I just exposed scum.
Baboon Pride is maxmillian in my role PM
VOTE: Anatole

Anatole either has the same role PM as baboopride, or the mod fucked up.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Lissa wrote:wtfudgeeee

How would anatole fakeclaim the exact. same. name. as a real existing role
Unless nat effed up
Or Csareo is lying?
Or baboon and anatole are scum together and this is some sort of elaborate bus attempting to clear one?
Or this is the bastardry in this setup?
I am baffled.

Csareo wrote:All I know is,
Lynch All Liars

Baboon Pride wrote:
Csareo wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Csareo wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:My character is on TV because he is a magician, but the flavor hints that he found a real spellbook.

Okay, this is most likely bullshit. Unless there are two magicians, one of the two character flavors I didn't out is also a magician.
What's his name?


Maximillian

Holy shit, I just exposed scum.
Baboon Pride is maxmillian in my role PM
VOTE: Anatole

Anatole either has the same role PM as baboopride, or the mod fucked up.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Um.

We're Alex. Not a magician of any sort.

Anatole Kuragin wrote:csar you're kind of a dumbass

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I have no creativity wrote:
Natirasha wrote:I'm on deck!

Mafia on the Air


Big business is coming to buy out the small-town television station KMFS! Can you find the corporate traitors before they get majority control!


A flavor-lite experimental mini by me.
This game has an undisclosed bastard element to it,
but I will not lie to the players.


This was my blurb. Please note an emphasis on 'experimental'. The bastard mechanic only applies to the hidden mechanic, the rest of the setup is normal. 13p, no pre-ins.


Also reading it the mecanic is hidden. so we dont know what it is....

you are also suspect but to a lesser extent. your positng stuff that i can use later if you are scum, fonz has been mostly uselss form what ive skimmed

gossamer wings wrote:Csareo is most likely town from this yhough

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VOTE: nashvil


thats todays lynch


Why Csareo is scum


  • Premise 1: The Mod does not lie to the players. (Post 1349)
  • Premise 2: Csareo claims that all liars should be lynched. (Post 1345)
  • Conclusion 1: Therefore, if Csareo's claim is proven false, he should be lynched as a liar because of premise 1.

  • Premise 3: Csareo claimed that he knew Baboon's PM. (Post 825)
  • Premise 4: Anatole claims Maximillian. (Post 1315)
  • Premise 5: Csareo claims that is Baboon's flavor. (Post 1316)
  • Premise 6: Baboon claims to be Alex. Not Maximillian. (Post 1347)
  • Conclusion: Csareo did not have knowledge of Baboon's flavor. Premise 3 is false.

  • Premise 1: The mod did not lie to Csareo when giving Csareo his role pm. (Post 1349)
  • Premise 7/Conclusion 2: Csareo did not know Baboon's flavor in direct contradiction to his statements.
  • Conclusion 3: This "misstatement" by the Csareo is not caused by a mod.

  • Premise 8/Conclusion 3: The misstatement by Csareo was not caused by a mod.
  • Conclusion 4: Csareo directly lied to the group.


Why ika just has a hard on for Titus
  • ika quoted that the mod wouldn't lie to the players.
  • This highlights ika should be aware of how transparently false Csareo's claim is.
  • ika ignores this to push a lynch for me in face of any rational act.
  • Conclusion: ika is scum or just playing overly emotional not thinking things through.


@CS, Sorry I had actual scumhunting to do.
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:58 am

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Cutty Shark wrote:
Nashville Dreams wrote:Cutty Shark, I'm working on explaining why this highly suggests Csareo is scum. it also includes why ika is scum. Also with the fact Csareo hasn't alluded to what the scum's allegeded plan is. As town, he thinks in those manners. But we'll set that aside for purposes of this argument. I might not have it done by the time I get back to work though.

ika, then you can't fix gotta lynch Titus. :-p Aka can't fix stupid. Sorry man but I'm pretty sure you drew scum. You're ignoring a CC you highlighted to push me. I mean what the fuck?

oh great
How much experience do you have with Csareo? Just the one game?
What CC?
Answer my crumb question?


Just the one. It's not likely I find someone in a newbie game who could match me that closely in a) stubborness and b) strategic thinking. That is why the total devoidness of that in his iso is shocking. You just need one to get into a person's personality like that.

I wanted to keep my identity secret. If I start talking about how detailed my analysis of Csareo's thought patterns are (which is something you must do as an IC) my identity is blown. I was using withholding my identity to scumhunt, as I explained before.
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:59 am

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I was going to give a idea that nashvill was 3rd party jester but i no longer beileve that.
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:59 am

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Cutty Shark wrote:oh yeah just gonna add that neither head of Nashville reacting *at all* to our vote is weird


I'm used to being mislynched when right on scum. That's something your other head should be able to tell you about xmen.

ika voting me is par for the course as well as either alignment.
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:00 am

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I have no creativity wrote:I was going to give a idea that nashvill was 3rd party jester but i no longer beileve that.


LOL. Nope. :-p We'll just pass along the camera of truth if we get in trouble. LOL
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:01 am

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Now if you'll excuse me that's top of the hour. Time to get to the office again. Lunch is over.
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:03 am

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I kind of hope Nati messed up, just so I can see Titus's reaction
But the fact that Titus completely ignores the possibility that the mod might have messed up (a possibility that's been discussed a lot) is so lol
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:04 am

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Cutty Shark wrote:I kind of hope Nati messed up, just so I can see Titus's reaction
But the fact that Titus completely ignores the possibility that the mod might have messed up (a possibility that's been discussed a lot) is so lol


If the mod messed up, they will scrap the game as the mod would have to confirm some or exclude some. So yeah, not a possibility.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:05 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:
Cutty Shark wrote:
Nashville Dreams wrote:Cutty Shark, I'm working on explaining why this highly suggests Csareo is scum. it also includes why ika is scum. Also with the fact Csareo hasn't alluded to what the scum's allegeded plan is. As town, he thinks in those manners. But we'll set that aside for purposes of this argument. I might not have it done by the time I get back to work though.

ika, then you can't fix gotta lynch Titus. :-p Aka can't fix stupid. Sorry man but I'm pretty sure you drew scum. You're ignoring a CC you highlighted to push me. I mean what the fuck?

oh great
How much experience do you have with Csareo? Just the one game?
What CC?
Answer my crumb question?


Just the one. It's not likely I find someone in a newbie game who could match me that closely in a) stubborness and b) strategic thinking. That is why the total devoidness of that in his iso is shocking. You just need one to get into a person's personality like that.

I wanted to keep my identity secret. If I start talking about how detailed my analysis of Csareo's thought patterns are (which is something you must do as an IC) my identity is blown. I was using withholding my identity to scumhunt, as I explained before.

Cool you answered 1 out of 3 questions.
Cool meta after 1 game.
I think Titus likes the number 1
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:06 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:
Cutty Shark wrote:oh yeah just gonna add that neither head of Nashville reacting *at all* to our vote is weird


I'm used to being mislynched when right on scum. That's something your other head should be able to tell you about xmen.

ika voting me is par for the course as well as either alignment.

How many scumreads did you have right in that game? Wasn't it only that one?
[joke about 1]
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:08 am

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I don't see why nati would have to scrap the game. She'd just confirm with csareo and then he'd tell us and we'd choose whether or not to believe him.

Nothing alignment revealing has been in the situation.
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:08 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:
Cutty Shark wrote:I kind of hope Nati messed up, just so I can see Titus's reaction
But the fact that Titus completely ignores the possibility that the mod might have messed up (a possibility that's been discussed a lot) is so lol


If the mod messed up, they will scrap the game as the mod would have to confirm some or exclude some. So yeah, not a possibility.

Privately telling Csareo that his PM was wrong and correcting it would really only serve to make obvtown Csareo more obvtown
But we'll see what happens
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:08 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:
Why Csareo is scum


  • Premise 1: The Mod does not lie to the players. (Post 1349)
  • Premise 2: Csareo claims that all liars should be lynched. (Post 1345)
  • Conclusion 1: Therefore, if Csareo's claim is proven false, he should be lynched as a liar because of premise 1.

  • Premise 3: Csareo claimed that he knew Baboon's PM. (Post 825)
  • Premise 4: Anatole claims Maximillian. (Post 1315)
  • Premise 5: Csareo claims that is Baboon's flavor. (Post 1316)
  • Premise 6: Baboon claims to be Alex. Not Maximillian. (Post 1347)
  • Conclusion: Csareo did not have knowledge of Baboon's flavor. Premise 3 is false.

  • Premise 1: The mod did not lie to Csareo when giving Csareo his role pm. (Post 1349)
  • Premise 7/Conclusion 2: Csareo did not know Baboon's flavor in direct contradiction to his statements.
  • Conclusion 3: This "misstatement" by the Csareo is not caused by a mod.

  • Premise 8/Conclusion 3: The misstatement by Csareo was not caused by a mod.
  • Conclusion 4: Csareo directly lied to the group.


@CS, Sorry I had actual scumhunting to do.


Doesn't this sorta fall apart if it comes out there was a mistake and he THOUGHT he was telling the truth? At that point you're using lynch all liars as a crutch to lynch a player based on a technicality.

Conclusion 1.5 - he thought he he had knowledge of Baboon's flavor and was wrong. That's the lynchpin in this whole thing. Nat saying she won't lie to the players I'm guessing does not include mod fuck-ups since she's not omnipotent and omniscient.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:08 am

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Cutty Shark wrote:
Nashville Dreams wrote:
Cutty Shark wrote:oh yeah just gonna add that neither head of Nashville reacting *at all* to our vote is weird


I'm used to being mislynched when right on scum. That's something your other head should be able to tell you about xmen.

ika voting me is par for the course as well as either alignment.

How many scumreads did you have right in that game? Wasn't it only that one?
[joke about 1]


Doesn't matter. If I am getting mislynched, at least one of my scumreads is right.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:09 am

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Tammy get out of my head
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:09 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:I'm used to being mislynched when right on scum. That's something your other head should be able to tell you about xmen.



Titus wrote:
AngryPidgeon wrote:Titus, who is scum?


I already did a wagon analysis. The scum are in there.

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Snowstorm


:neutral:

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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:09 am

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Does it really change that much if Nat just says "put anatole's name where baboon's was"
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:09 am

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Nashville Dreams wrote:
Cutty Shark wrote:
Nashville Dreams wrote:
Cutty Shark wrote:oh yeah just gonna add that neither head of Nashville reacting *at all* to our vote is weird


I'm used to being mislynched when right on scum. That's something your other head should be able to tell you about xmen.

ika voting me is par for the course as well as either alignment.

How many scumreads did you have right in that game? Wasn't it only that one?
[joke about 1]


Doesn't matter. If I am getting mislynched, at least one of my scumreads is right.

Having one scumread right isn't really worth bragging about
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:10 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Nashville Dreams wrote:
Why Csareo is scum


  • Premise 1: The Mod does not lie to the players. (Post 1349)
  • Premise 2: Csareo claims that all liars should be lynched. (Post 1345)
  • Conclusion 1: Therefore, if Csareo's claim is proven false, he should be lynched as a liar because of premise 1.

  • Premise 3: Csareo claimed that he knew Baboon's PM. (Post 825)
  • Premise 4: Anatole claims Maximillian. (Post 1315)
  • Premise 5: Csareo claims that is Baboon's flavor. (Post 1316)
  • Premise 6: Baboon claims to be Alex. Not Maximillian. (Post 1347)
  • Conclusion: Csareo did not have knowledge of Baboon's flavor. Premise 3 is false.

  • Premise 1: The mod did not lie to Csareo when giving Csareo his role pm. (Post 1349)
  • Premise 7/Conclusion 2: Csareo did not know Baboon's flavor in direct contradiction to his statements.
  • Conclusion 3: This "misstatement" by the Csareo is not caused by a mod.

  • Premise 8/Conclusion 3: The misstatement by Csareo was not caused by a mod.
  • Conclusion 4: Csareo directly lied to the group.


@CS, Sorry I had actual scumhunting to do.


Doesn't this sorta fall apart if it comes out there was a mistake and he THOUGHT he was telling the truth? At that point you're using lynch all liars as a crutch to lynch a player based on a technicality.

Conclusion 1.5 - he thought he he had knowledge of Baboon's flavor and was wrong. That's the lynchpin in this whole thing. Nat saying she won't lie to the players I'm guessing does not include mod fuck-ups since she's not omnipotent and omniscient.


Nah, he wanted to CC AK to push him over the top and get him lynched. Cephir (either bc town or scum not wanting to get burned as well) called out Csareo.

This will all become moot when Nat says no mistake was made. We lynch Csareo he flips scum.

We lynch ika, he flips scum.

We're probably dead before the last scum flips but it should be obvious (and not Tammy).
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:11 am

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Okay that's enough shitting on Titus for me for now
The rest of y'all have fun, but don't overdo it. I still want it to be fashionable!
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:11 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:Does it really change that much if Nat just says "put anatole's name where baboon's was"


Yup because Nat would then be confirming that was Csareo's actual role PM.
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