Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[ika]

If everyone is serious about lynching us I'm asking for a few things:

•wait until I'm home so I can give a proper fully finished reads list.
• let me talk to Titus about something and get it settled so it

benefits the town.

Then you can be on your merrily way to lynching us, okay?

That's all I ask

~M

So you are saying you are not part of the town? Die

I meant to add a third.

Bork, notty explained to me in xmen in our neighborhood PT on how to read a Titus. Go read that please.

~M

And I have explained it as well in hywtd to pants.

I have yet to see Titus famous tunnel either. Where is it? I don't see her freaking out like she usually does as town

[gossamer wings]

pedit: how come we are both town?

waiiiiitttttt.....

TITUS ARE YOU IN THERE AGAIN?

Only one way to find out. Let me post and see if we are a scum read. Then we know for sure Titus is in there.

Ika - why do you basically say Titus calling you scum is a scum claim for her when this post suggests otherwise?

Out of hydra due to work but I think that was like one of the few posts made by beast. He says work is keeping him busy.

And does that really look like I would have covo with myself?

I didn't read the in quote there, but sure why not? I didn't think beast had made any posts in this game though, so.

[gossamer wings]

Bee isn't going to happen

Fonz actually might.

I don't remember why I was town-reading him, but it does kinda feel like his posts in swagton?

I'd like to have Ika dead, but Ceph disagree's with me there

collectively, it seems like our top choices are AK, FT, and Csareo

I am not as inclined to really follow through with AK though and will only lynch him via deadline

Ree and Fonz would also be acceptable deadline lynches, Ree less so, though

We are not lynching Ree.

[Baboon Pride]

top choices Tammy?

[gossamer wings]

My top choice earlier was csareo but it looks like I was wrong there. I need to finish actually reading the posts from today and catch up with falcon.

[Baboon Pride]

because at this point, I kinda just want someone not a town-read, dead. this day has been dragged out for far to long, IMO

pedit: kay, who else would you mind lynching?

[ika]

Then start with me the sooner I get lynch maybe the sooner you will listen

I want the hammer though

[Anatole Kuragin]

Still not voting anyone until Lissa posts that stuff.

[gossamer wings]

because at this point, I kinda just want someone not a town-read, dead. this day has been dragged out for far to long, IMO

pedit: kay, who else would you mind lynching?

I know I'm not interested in lynching: baboon, cutty, Ree, (Lisa - due to neighborhood read...I keep forgetting she's playing, fonz? - due to Bork thing, csareo - due to way he claimed his role stuff today, Anatole - thinking about being fine with giving him a night, fourtrouble - we haven't settled our read there and falcon would hate to mislynch him)

People in parentheses are people I'm not interested in lynching for the most part but have reservations on.

I'm thinking on Nashville as That joke about sanity being a scum tell for Titus is based in truth. I remember in gundam seed updating syryana on what was going on that game, and he went wait Titus made an argument that made sense? She's scum then. That's not to put down Titus, but it think when she's town she crafts theories that often don't make any sense. So some of that fits here, but I think she's also able to capitalize on that when scum. I dunno. I've only seen her as town once in bowsers game, I think every other time we've played has been her as scum. I kinda feel like that csareo case and argument where she's completely missing that csareo proved his role is more likely for her as town.

Wouldn't cry if creativity ate it, but meh, had a town read there earlier. I am slightly amused that in the whole ANATOLE SOFTED HIS ROLE!!! That not one person has commented on the fact that ika soft claimed for literally no reason. But four troubles point on him is weak. It was pretty obvious why ika voted Nashville yesterday.

I'd be down for a honeybee vote and potentially 5-off, but again neighborhood averse there too.

I think I just excluded everyone from the lynch ^_^

[Nashville Dreams]

If everyone is serious about lynching us I'm asking for a few things:

•wait until I'm home so I can give a proper fully finished reads list.
• let me talk to Titus about something and get it settled so it

benefits the town.

Then you can be on your merrily way to lynching us, okay?

That's all I ask

~M

So you are saying you are not part of the town? Die

I meant to add a third.

Bork, notty explained to me in xmen in our neighborhood PT on how to read a Titus. Go read that please.

~M

And I have explained it as well in hywtd to pants.

I have yet to see Titus famous tunnel either. Where is it? I don't see her freaking out like she usually does as town

Pull your head out of your ass and stop missrepping me.

Think before you speak

~M

[Csareo]

I have mod confirmation that anatole is maxmillian, but the answer was pretty cryptic, and I wasn't completely sure if she was saying she messed up, or it is tied into the mechanic. I am asking again.

[Csareo]

UNVOTE: Anatole
I'm still a little suspicious of baboon, but nothing independently strong to lynch for.

[Cutty Shark]

Bork, notty explained to me in xmen in our neighborhood PT on how to read a Titus. Go read that please.

nah

titus town is stubborn as fuck

Seriously that is the only post in the hood that even mentions titus that was made by NS and not you (other than the early 'lawyer IRL' one that has no mention of a current read)

That's a bit, well, underwhelming for me

Even so, I feel like town you should be reaching out to me to read

you

instead of this really lazy and backhanded stuff about your partner, who

1) I have considerably less experience with than I do with you
and
2) is famous for playing pretty anti-town as town, which you know I can't responsibly just say 'Titus is being ridiculous; she must be town' to. That was

never

why I initially townread Titus in X-Men, and in fact was the reason I capitulated to her lynch in the end.

-b

[Anatole Kuragin]

still waiting on those iso reads from lissa before I vote on anything

[Nashville Dreams]

@ika, I haven't seen Titus tunnel, while simulanteously he gripes about the Csareo tunnel. He's scum too for the record.

@All, still pretty confident Csareo is scum but my other head really wants to talk to me about that. I really think this is like AP's first game where apparently scum had a list of roles that all the players were. Can I prove that? Nope. Not yet. However, it works itself perfectly for a fake claim.

It's ika, Ceph and Csareo from my perspective. I will likely not approve of any other vote. I don't actually see the case on FT other than he writes a lot. Let's just say I'm sympathetic to being lynched for that reason.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Why Csareo is scum

• Premise 1: The Mod does not lie to the players. (Post 1349)
  
• Premise 2: Csareo claims that all liars should be lynched. (Post 1345)
  
• Conclusion 1: Therefore, if Csareo's claim is proven false, he should be lynched as a liar because of premise 1.
  
  
• Premise 3: Csareo claimed that he knew Baboon's PM. (Post 825)
  
• Premise 4: Anatole claims Maximillian. (Post 1315)
  
• Premise 5: Csareo claims that is Baboon's flavor. (Post 1316)
  
• Premise 6: Baboon claims to be Alex. Not Maximillian. (Post 1347)
  
• Conclusion: Csareo did not have knowledge of Baboon's flavor. Premise 3 is false.
  
  
• Premise 1: The mod did not lie to Csareo when giving Csareo his role pm. (Post 1349)
  
• Premise 7/Conclusion 2: Csareo did not know Baboon's flavor in direct contradiction to his statements.
  
• Conclusion 3: This "misstatement" by the Csareo is not caused by a mod.
  
  
• Premise 8/Conclusion 3: The misstatement by Csareo was not caused by a mod.
  
• Conclusion 4: Csareo directly lied to the group.

@CS, Sorry I had actual scumhunting to do.

Doesn't this sorta fall apart if it comes out there was a mistake and he THOUGHT he was telling the truth? At that point you're using lynch all liars as a crutch to lynch a player based on a technicality.

Conclusion 1.5 - he thought he he had knowledge of Baboon's flavor and was wrong. That's the lynchpin in this whole thing. Nat saying she won't lie to the players I'm guessing does not include mod fuck-ups since she's not omnipotent and omniscient.

you still think csar is scum despite the mod confirming it was a goof?

[Nashville Dreams]

Yes. Look at my post. I said I can't prove it. Which effectively acts like mod "confirming" Csareo is town which is flat out wrong. That guy is not town.

[Anatole Kuragin]

yeah but that whole premise for why he is scum only makes sense if he is deliberately lying to town

So either you still think he is lying because nat wouldn't confirm that mistake, or you need other reasons to call him scum?

[Natirasha]

As I should have done a bunch of days ago, replacing Mr_Ree.

[Nashville Dreams]

No. It does make sense.

Suppose Scum have a list of all town flavor claims. The mod transposes a flavor claim. Namely Nati puts your flavor claim wrong in the huge list scums are given.

[Nashville Dreams]

It also makes sense with the mechanic that gives you roles as our role would likely be guessed from our flavor.

[Nashville Dreams]

Eh, bork I tried reaching out to you subtlety. I'm not bringing up meta because I know myself how easy for me it is to fake it. I can't argue myself out of a paper bag. I'm not going to force my towniness down your throat.

I guess notty must have explained it further to me on Skype because I have gotten some tells of my own to read her.

~M

[Cutty Shark]

Lol.

I'm gonna hand this over to Titus. I'm off to work on my day off!

~M

Ugh, gonna bite my tongue but how did you miss this >_>

~m

Yeah, I thought you'd read up until you left.

Eh, bork I tried reaching out to you subtlety.

What's the point of a reachout if the person you're reaching out to might not notice?

oh yeah just gonna add that neither head of Nashville reacting *at all* to our vote is weird

Pray tell.

How am I supposed to react to it when I'm a) at work and didn't see it yet b) I'm not supposed to be on my phone at all

~m

So... you gonna react yet? Because all I've seen is "yeah sure lynch us but let us talk first" Or are you still catching up?

I meant to add a third.

Bork, notty explained to me in xmen in our neighborhood PT on how to read a Titus. Go read that please.

~M

This doesn't seem like someone resigned to their lynch.

I seriously can't deal with Titus anymore without killing brain cells, so I shan't

[Cutty Shark]

Harry potter

~M

I kept my heart hidden
And now I'm wishing that I didn't
Oh, who am I kidding
You weren't even intrigued

And I was looking forward to a happy ending
So much for pretending

~M

Back when I'm at work

Stopppp

These posts made me think you were caught up too
I'm curious to see what you wanted to say. Please unbite your tongue.

[Nashville Dreams]

I was caught up with what was happening. I was town reading csearo and half scum reading AK. However now I'm townrrading them both.

The reason why our hydra started to scum readIKA was because I was getting paranoid. He was barely posting and I asked Titus if I was wrong about my initial read.

gW, you, BP are all tight townreads at least for me, Titus doesn't share the same.

I thought your comment about me not reacting to the vote felt out of place.

This is really a stream of conscious about what I'm feeling about my remembrance of the thread and my talks with Titus.

Honeybee is leaning town as the meta thing felt genuine.
5off feels scum.
Mr tee is null.
Ft I'm on the fence about.
Lissa is probably a Poe read.

I'm confident that I'm likely wrong on a town read, but idk.

~M