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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:34 am

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VC 2.09


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(3) - DeasVail, implosion, AGar
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:01 pm

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Oooohhh this is bad of me.

/prod dodge!

SORRY! I will deal here tomorrow! I swear! I'm sorry again ;~;

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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:34 pm

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We really need to get a wagon together. We have just over a day left until deadline, a ridiculous spread of votes, and little to no activity right now. I like my DV vote, but am willing to move it back to ZZZX tomorrow to make sure we get a lynch (provided he doesn't come out as obvtown before then).
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:01 pm

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we could lynch phok...
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:55 pm

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Or we can lynch Chaos who is now Zzx
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:53 pm

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Oh shyt we're going to run out of time.
It seems that I'm on a vanity wagon right now. I'll read a couple of things again and find a better place for my vote, I suppose. Unless someone wants to join me...
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:52 pm

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Or the people who are saying "or we could lynch my preferred lynch" could join the current largest wagon.

*cough*
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:48 am

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Only lynches I'll consider right now are shaddowez or ZZZX if he posts and I'm not happy.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:48 am

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BipolarChemist wrote:I love you all! (Yes even you, DV)

Well in that case, get your paws off me and go scratch someone else. <3
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:51 am

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Malakittens wrote:Or we can lynch Chaos who is now Zzx

Every finished game I replaced into I get greated with this

do you guys love me that much

also I am back and thus will read this game
Implosion: I see ZZZX was lynched. For shame, people. For shame.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:02 am

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implosion wrote:Or the people who are saying "or we could lynch my preferred lynch" could join the current largest wagon.

*cough*

plenty of time for compromise. and i will if we get there. but BOTH of the top two wagons look scum-driven.

phok is the best wagon. As of right now, at compromise time I'm moving to DV.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:58 am

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yeah

i want a lynch on ZZZX

let's make this happen before we hit a no lynch

thanks!
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:42 pm

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*beeep*

Thread died.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:12 pm

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VOTE: zzzx
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:19 pm

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zzzx isn't the worst wagon in the world. If it's the case before I go to sleep that his wagon is by far the biggest then i'll join it. But I still prefer shaddow, etc.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:38 pm

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Pre-warning this is going to be a horrible catch-up post because I'm a lazy twat who may or may not have forgotten about this game. Yes, I'm avoiding talking about bigger posts because they're hard and long and right now I don't need any more hard and long things.

Aneninen wrote:
I thought I was the only one who scumread BPC. And now I've seen that both MalaKitty and Phokdapolees calls him a possible scum. Have I skimmed over something? Or have these scumreads just come out of nowhere?


Why are you scum reading me? (this is possibly because I don't fully remember and i'd have to go back a page to check).

sthar8 wrote:yeah thats what i said. a mollie-read.


Dafuq is a mollie-read?

Malakittens wrote:Gah.

The tones of both DV and BPC feel so off. Wow, maybe I'm wrong and just haven't played enough games or talk with them enough, but something is deff up. It's not even them talking to each other.


To be fair, I do enjoy talking to DV. He's kinda awesome, granted he is scummy, but awesome none-the-less. Also, boring observation, so cliché, etceteraaa, etcetera!

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BipolarChemist wrote:I love you all! (Yes even you, DV)

Well in that case, get your paws off me and go scratch someone else. <3


It's kinda hard to get my paws off of you for multiple reasons. The first being I think your slot is scummy! Grrr! <3

I wouuuulllddd vote Shaddowez, but the only thing holding me back is DV's vote on them. :/
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:19 pm

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BipolarChemist wrote:Dafuq is a mollie-read?

"You can be town until you've generated enough content that I can read you"
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:31 pm

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Like, all the votes on shadow are terrible

and Z's slot is low hanging fruit.

If someone could be bothered to say WHY we're voting shadow? But I feel like if there were a good reason it would be in thread by now.

i'll be back on later, for compromise time.

But in the meantime, Z needs to fucking commit to a vote.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:59 pm

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AGar has been prodded.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:18 pm

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If someone could be bothered to say WHY we're voting shadow? But I feel like if there were a good reason it would be in thread by now.

ISO me?
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:29 pm

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I have to admit sthar, even though I don't agree with it I knew implosion's case on me. The people sheeping him, however, haven't been quite as clear.

Not sure I'll be able to make it back on between now and lynch, and don't want to risk a no lynch. Switching my vote to zzzx for now, but really want to look into DV again tomorrow.

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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:56 pm

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Blech. I got prodded.

Fuck. I'll post either tomorrow afternoon or Sunday. Not sure which yet, depends on what time I get up tomorrow.

Sorry guys. :/
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:54 pm

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So, I'm trying to find out something.

Shadowez, – most of this post can be come from either a town- or a scum-mindset.

Sthar8, – you called me a pigeon-pervert. Strange... By the way, it seems that we're already forgotten that his slot was amongst the popular scumreads on Day1.

Shadowez, – though I don't agree with certain points (eg. MalaKitty, BPC), we should remember this readlist in case of Shadowez is getting lynched and flips town. (Also his next post about Implosion. And I hope that they aren't double-bussing each other Today.)
Notscience/Sthar8/MalaKitty conversation, from – a big null, in my opinion.

Implosion, – hmmm... I see your points. You're obsessed with the scum!Shadowez thought of yours but your posts about the topic are convincing.

Sthar8, – you want us to vote for Phok but you've posted very little content about him. Weird.

DeasVail, – so, you're happy with both of the prominent wagons. We should remember this fact later.

Implosion, – that's right and I'm doing what you've requested.

ZZZX, – thanks for not posting anything useful. That really helped a lot now. ^_^

BipolarChemist, – I posted my reasons for scumreading you along with my vote.
"I wouuuulllddd vote Shaddowez, but the only thing holding me back is DV's vote on them."
– ignore DV and vote for Shadowez. By the way, if Shadowez gets lynched and flips scum, will you call DeasVail's vote bussing?

Sthar8, – given that how little time we have now, this post was very weak. You don't like these wagons, do you? I too could imagine better wagons but, right now we should choose one of them.
"If someone could be bothered to say WHY we're voting shadow?"
I think both DeasVail and AGar have posted about the topic. As for Implosion, his
whole
Day2 is about the topic. ^_^ (What if my reads about BPC are wrong and there is a Sthar8/Shadowez scumteam?)

In conclusion,

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shadowez
My reasons:
(1) I hadn't believe in the scum!Chaos theory before ZZZX arrived
(2) Implosion has kept saying "let's lynch Shadowez" all the time but, his arguments are strong (yes, you can call me a sheep now)
(3) Having ISO-ed him again I found nothing which I'd consider "definitely town-motivated".
(4) To tell the truth, he's not my strongest scumread but this wagon is much better than the ZZZX one.

Tomorrow, we should focus on BPC and Sthar8 – especially if Shadowez flips scum.
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:18 pm

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implosion wrote:
If someone could be bothered to say WHY we're voting shadow? But I feel like if there were a good reason it would be in thread by now.

ISO me?

I... missed that spoiler when I was reading the thread. And when I went back to look for the cases, it didn't seem connected to the vote for some reason. Apologies, I'll read it right now.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:07 pm

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Okay so maybe I missed the case in the ISO because it was nowhere near the current vote on the wagon. Or maybe because it's a big hedgey pile of crap.

implosion wrote:
This
can be looked at as possibly
defending-without-really-defending, or trying to deter anything that looks like an accusation of Flames without really looking like deterring it.
[...]
This
looks like possible
coaching. It reads like scum telling scum "hey, you're being scummy, stop that."
[...]
Lots of qualification on the vote: he's only voting him because he doesn't have any strong suspicions, so it's easy to get out, but he still wants to be on the wagon. The vote
looks like
scum begrudgingly deciding to bus when they realize Flames is probably going down rather than town looking for scum. "Seeing as I don't have any other strong suspicions right now" also doesn't mesh very well with voting him to L-1, but those make plenty of sense together if it's a bus.
[...]
So he's concerned about the wagon, and about the people on it, yet is still happy with putting it at L-1. There's also the classic thing here of throwing a general accusation at a bandwagon rather than any individual people on it - if it's concerning that all of these votes are from wagonhoppers, then town-shaddowez should elaborate on what people are scummy because of it, and why those people are less deserving of a vote than Flames. He's also continuing to give himself an out with respect to the wagon.
[...]
Note that he unvoted because of the replacement. Here he gives more tentative support for lynching the slot without really committing.
[...]
This also
looks like
it could be scum trying to get on the wagon before it reaches the lynch because they see it as inevitable.
[...]
I would say the saying he ISO'd flames is a favor in point of shaddowez town,
but meh
. Similar comments apply to this as to everything else.
[...]
tl;dr: shaddowez's interactions towards the Flames slot, on the whole,
feel like
scum who doesn't want to push the slot, but wants to get towncred for being on the wagon.
Edited to remove quotes. Also, bolded for interesting phrasing.

The amount of noncommittal verbage is particularly staggering when you consider that one of implosions points against shadow is... noncommittal verbage. The "unvote because of replacement" thing is hilariously dumb, especially considering implosion's second vote for shadow. On the whole, the case looks to be implosion scumreading shadow for not being certain that flames was scum. Which is super questionable, and given implosion's scummy-as-hell voting record for day1, I'm not buying any turnips from this stall.
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