Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[fferyllt]

you asked* also you probably missed it because 90% of this game is pointless conjecture on meta and hydras that make it even more difficult to get reads on day 1 than usual

You didn't complain about hydras in the previous game we played together. What's this about?

which game was that?

were there 3 hydras constantly disagreeing with eachother, referencing it, and complaining about discrepancies in each of their metas for the bulk of the game?

The flying aces game. I was one of the hydras. I had a meta argument with thor against lynching Majiffy on day 1.

The meta discussion isn't because these players are in hydras. It's because several of them are meta-based or meta-informed players.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Yeah, if this game was an example used in an anti-hydra PSA, beli's could be used in the opposite. I didn't have any problem with hydras in that game.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think part of that was MC was pretty much just played by one head and viking cat died without posting a lot

[fferyllt]

and viking cat died without posting a lot

I know.

[Nashville Dreams]

Fery honeybee and I played in a newbie game in addition to the one you modded.

I like playing with her and it's rare when she plays.

~M

[Lissa]

Argh.
Alright. We have a bit less than 24 hours left. We need to collaborate and reach a lynch.
FT has four votes, Honey bee has three, Nashville has two.
I want a FT lynch. However, I would be willing to vote for a deadline lynch of Honey or Nashville if that is the consensus we come to.

[Csareo]

Sorry for my inactivity. I don't want to lynch, because I'm not confident in even a Four Trouble lynch, but I'm willing to vote him if it comes to the last second.

[fferyllt]

Sorry for my inactivity. I don't want to lynch, because I'm not confident in even a Four Trouble lynch, but I'm willing to vote him if it comes to the last second.

I'm still in catch up mode, but I have to ask - what are your reads? Who else would you be willing to lynch? Is FT your strongest scumread? Why?

[fferyllt]

because that post sounds all sorts of alarms. :/

[Baboon Pride]

I was just about to semi-seriously suggest we just lynch him instead XD

(hint: he replaced scum, did weird claim things and is getting townread for something that has zero bearing on his alignment)

-Ceph

[I have no creativity]

look we all agree nash/honey atm it seems like.

i want nash dead for reasons already sated i will rebuild my fucking case if i must when i get home from work but can we not have blitz deadlines? (im on break from work)

[gossamer wings]

Yeah, I agree that post puts a dent in my turn around on my read on him because of how certain he felt with Anatole.

I know he has the capabilit for game analysis from that game Titus was in, so him still not doing anything is concerning.

I'm building a house right now though, so I will get back to this in a bit. :p

[Cutty Shark]

I think my preferences are

FT - reads are inconsistent, look up what fonz had to say about that, but to summarize: turn around on baboon was really weird and was sticky when its premise was invalidated. Don't get his angles on his scumreads: Fonz (goes from scum to town to scum again for ???, IHNC read is based on ika's emotion being fake - how does he know that? It strikes me as not fake.

Nashville - General obfuscation, a lot of 'look here after the fact I was subtly doing this thing I have no reason to be subtle about if I want people to notice me.' Mala says I'm ignoring her and I don't understand how I'm doing this or what she wants out of me that I haven't given her (other than not to vote her, but she also said my scumread on her made no sense. Why are you town, then, to the point that it makes no sense and I should see that? I've tried to go down this avenue before and her response was 1496 which is essentially a response of *shrug* to me; nothing like I saw in Micro 188 where we had a relationship of TvT with me scumreading her most of the game.
Also Titus. There is Titus.

(Honey/Csareo) - no real townread on either. Csareo could've done more with his role (he could've done exactly

nothing

with it, which is what I'd have done as scum, so that tempers the read a bit) but has done nothing outside of it. Honey Bee is just kinda there but represents the threshold of what I'm willing to lynch.

Kids are being fucking ridiculous tonight I'll be hopefully around at some point

-b

[Nashville Dreams]

look we all agree nash/honey atm it seems like.

i want nash dead for reasons already sated i will rebuild my fucking case if i must when i get home from work but can we not have blitz deadlines? (im on break from work)

Now I'm kinda sick of this shit. I reached out to you and I'm not titus and you ignored me.

Titus is right about the theory.

Everyone just lynch us because if we aren't lynched now we won't be killed and we'll be kept alive and probably lynched in LyLo. We are a liability.

~M

[Cutty Shark]

Now I'm kinda sick of this shit. I reached out to you and I'm not titus and you ignored me.

So you're person A in a hydra where your hydra buddy is doing something you apparently disagree with (since you're reaching out to ika where Titus is trying to get him lynched)

And instead of trying to get Titus to back off from antagonizing him so you can have this conversation (you all but washed your hands of it earlier), you blame ika for not dealing with your heads as two entirely separate people?

Come on

-b

[fferyllt]

Page 22 - I really hate FT's baboon push, but I dunno that he's scummy for scumreading mala.

You were both in Tales of You but FT was inactive after partway through day 1 and Mara replaced in near the end of day 2 iirc.

Also hunterxhunterx, but you were both in hydrae, and Carbon Fiber wasn't a strong presence in that game.

Other games you've played together?

I kinda like Honey bee's post 554, but I felt like she didn't engage some of the salient events going on before this catch-up. Her comments to 5-off were good.

565 So much this.

IKA's 566 and 557 this speculation feels so damn town.

Lissa's 570 is town reasoning IMO. Glad to see stuff that reinforces other reasons to think she's town.

575 theoryposting kinda bothers me here. I'm not sure why. Maybe because it feels like an IC in teaching mode.

587 wtf Mala. What is this vote? 589 was your sarcasm detector in the shop or what? Were the rest of your posts on this page mala or titus?

ok so page 25 that's titus. MALA DID YOU ACTUALLY BUY INTO THIS???

Also how the fuck could you post/read whatever you were doing not not have post vesperia stress disorder?

625 I like this interaction.


674 just going to bitch at this post as a proxy for other times I've wanted to bitch. It's not directed solely at FT but at everybody who's known to be in the neighborhood. It's nearly 30 pages in and this info about 5-off's tone is new data to me. I don't think I missed it being discussed earlier, but maybe I did? If I didn't then goddamnit do better at explaining your townhunting/scumhunting in the game thread.

677 another post from fonz that resonates. See the prev paragraph for why.

703 - lolled.

Also, it's really encouraging that I'm basically synching with gossamer wings and cutty shark here. There's a ton of thinking what I'm thinking going on, and perhaps more critically there's a ton of eau de vesperia swirling through their interactions with each other.

720 pings a little because of the scum advantage to approaching the game this way, but I feel like a hypocrite for it given how my own game has evolved. And oh look 723 more synchronicity.

That's through page 30. 40 pages to go.

[Nashville Dreams]

Holy fucking christ.

Is SOMEONE not allowed to change how they want to approach something. I fucken decided to think on it and thought that maybe he can put titus aside AND TRY TO GET A FUCKING READ ON ME. NOT ON TITUS, ON ME, ME MALAFUCKINGKITTENS.

She backed the hell off for now and since then I reached out and nothing. So you know what now I'm done because this is blow out of proportion. I'm trying to entertain the fact i could possibly be wrong on Ika and I want to talk to him and see if I am, but when I'm not getting a response back it makes it very difficult.

Still stands: he could have worked with me prior to titus outting, but he didn't. He didn't. So how the fuck am i blaming him when he didn't even bother doing it prior to titus outing her self.

~M

[Baboon Pride]

I know you said you were gonna get down to business, but who are you and what have you done with ffery?

-Ceph

[Nashville Dreams]

I swear I don't even remember playing with FT. Like his name rings zero bells to me.

I thought the person that matt hydra'd with was Falcon. >>

~M

[Baboon Pride]

Oh, I don't think I ever vocalized this, but ika is really pretty town, and I think Nashville's insistence on continuing to rag on him/induce more rage is scummy.

-Ceph

[fferyllt]

Mala I dunno. maybe there are explanations for some between page 30 and this page, but your/titus' gossamer wings push really REALLY concerns me. I think I will have to see how that made sense to you or I won't be able to let it go.

[fferyllt]

I know you said you were gonna get down to business, but who are you and what have you done with ffery?

-Ceph

I have no idea what this means.

[Nashville Dreams]

587 wtf Mala. What is this vote? 589 was your sarcasm detector in the shop or what? Were the rest of your posts on this page mala or titus?

ok so page 25 that's titus. MALA DID YOU ACTUALLY BUY INTO THIS???

Also how the fuck could you post/read whatever you were doing not not have post vesperia stress disorder?

wasn't me.
wasn't me.

I can't control how my partner scum hunts. I have no urge to do so either. We have completely different reads and we don't see eye to eye. The more we do our own way of scumhunting the closer we become to probably having similar reads (this is rl or is this just a fantasyyyy??).

I can't reiterate more on how many times I have said I was basically townreading Tammy throughout the game other than the few times its shown in my posts that I wasn't.

~M

[fferyllt]

I swear I don't even remember playing with FT. Like his name rings zero bells to me.

I thought the person that matt hydra'd with was Falcon. >>

~M

FT and F-16 hydra'd in HunterxHunterx. They also hydra'd in a recent large theme that you didn't play.

[Nashville Dreams]

Mala I dunno. maybe there are explanations for some between page 30 and this page, but your/titus' gossamer wings push really REALLY concerns me. I think I will have to see how that made sense to you or I won't be able to let it go.

The push made barely any sense to me other than I tried to make a parallel to tammy on how it made sense in my head.

From the look of what titus was getting at that it was just the tone that set off titus' bells. It wasn't exactly an "omgomgomg tammy is town because of that" for me either, but i wasn't going to get up on tammy's back about it, but instead try to get a read around that and watch how tammy was reacting to others.

Cephrawr. I'm not trying to rage Ika more holy fuck. I'm wanting him to get a READ ON ME that has nothing to do with titus.

can everyone stop fucking misrepping me today or i'll fucking rage in this thread b/c my night so far hasn't been blessed with good news and the reason why I'll be fucked out of moving to chicago is because I'll have all my student loans to pay off and not be able to pay rent if my salary is like I'm making now.

~M