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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:15 pm

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fferyllt wrote:
Nashville Dreams wrote:I swear I don't even remember playing with FT. Like his name rings zero bells to me.

I thought the person that matt hydra'd with was Falcon. >>

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FT and F-16 hydra'd in HunterxHunterx. They also hydra'd in a recent large theme that you didn't play.


Yeah hunterxhunter is way to far back for me to remember anything other than the perfect win streak was ruined by getting mislynched.

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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:18 pm

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Baboon Pride wrote:I know you said you were gonna get down to business, but who are you and what have you done with ffery?

-Ceph


I have no idea what this means.


Oooh.

Hi! I'm replace-in ffery. I don't think we've met!
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:20 pm

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This is true, I don't believe we have.

I do know that I've used "I always replace in in such and such a way" as an excuse before :P

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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:20 pm

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fferyllt wrote:Mala I dunno. maybe there are explanations for some between page 30 and this page, but your/titus' gossamer wings push really REALLY concerns me. I think I will have to see how that made sense to you or I won't be able to let it go.


The push made barely any sense to me other than I tried to make a parallel to tammy on how it made sense in my head.

From the look of what titus was getting at that it was just the tone that set off titus' bells. It wasn't exactly an "omgomgomg tammy is town because of that" for me either, but i wasn't going to get up on tammy's back about it, but instead try to get a read around that and watch how tammy was reacting to others.

Cephrawr. I'm not trying to rage Ika more holy fuck. I'm wanting him to get a READ ON ME that has nothing to do with titus.

can everyone stop fucking misrepping me today or i'll fucking rage in this thread b/c my night so far hasn't been blessed with good news and the reason why I'll be fucked out of moving to chicago is because I'll have all my student loans to pay off and not be able to pay rent if my salary is like I'm making now.

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Ok. Will try to keep this in mind through the rest of my catch-up.
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:21 pm

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(But given that you're the queen meta hound in this town, I'm sure it's actually true :) )

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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:22 pm

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Baboon Pride wrote:(But given that you're the queen meta hound in this town, I'm sure it's actually true :) )

(-Ceph)


This is going to come out more offensiveful than it really is, but if she was the meta-queen that the random weird push she made on me for RVS'ing she wouldn't have done when she realized honey and I had played in at least two games since she joined the site.

So yeah.

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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:28 pm

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Nashville Dreams wrote:
Baboon Pride wrote:(But given that you're the queen meta hound in this town, I'm sure it's actually true :) )

(-Ceph)


This is going to come out more offensiveful than it really is, but if she was the meta-queen that the random weird push she made on me for RVS'ing she wouldn't have done when she realized honey and I had played in at least two games since she joined the site.

So yeah.

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I'm not a meta queen. I knew you'd played at least one game with her, but I don't remember you guys particularly bonding in my game. I still feel like my concern has some teeth. It's mitigated more by you being in an anonymous hydra than it is by any assertion of great friendship from two prior games.
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:14 pm

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really curious about where this goes.

suggests a pretty long term disconnect from the game. Whether there is scum in the PT or not, I think scum would be pretty focused on what's going on there.

I could do some major wifom but I want to take it at face value

Tammy this feels to me like you're positing a Cabd-level of ballsy gambiting scum in 5-off-scum here. Fair assessment?


Page 33 and here's the Csareo claim stuff. He's incredibly awkward with this and doesn't seem to understand how this could have been more useful to use later in the game. I don't like it. But, his slot was all but forgotten at this point. What would be the scum motivation in claiming at this point?

Csareo how did you go about choosing your 4 players?

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Terrible idea: it's not going to give away alignment to town, because that's game-breaking, but what it might do is give away power/non-power to scum.

I've played games where town won solely on flavor.


Sounds like poor game design.

, lolled.

The Ceph-posting on page 35 feels pretty town to me. I've been thinking Mara is town since early on and ceph hadn't really done anything to vastly add to or subtract from that. I like these posts.

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Nashville Dreams wrote:I've searched the world and I know now,
It ain't right if you ain't lost your mind
Yeah, I don't want easy, I want crazy
Are you with me baby? Let's be crazy


which head do you think is sane?

Hayden

You.

On the other hand, not *that* sane.

-Ceph


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this reads list pretty much agrees with my thoughts atm, though I'm backing off malatitus for now, and I'm not scumreading FT. but I feel like my reads are maybe too surface-level still, so it worries me a little that someone who had been more or less in the moment in this game didn't have a single read here that challenged my view of the game or surprised me. Then again, these reads feel consensusy so maybe it's a town-converging thing.

the observation about coming from a land of terrible mods resonates.

Page 36 and 37 - the working through things interactions between tammy and mala do allay some of my concerns.

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Nashville Dreams wrote:I thought it was quoted already. I'm pretty sure she did quote it.

She's trying to crumb to ika too. We aren't taunting anyone.

~M is for Mala. (btw, I think you probably deff know that from 907, but now that knowledge is public)


Guess was off.
I thought you were nacho.
This solidifies you to top tier read.

That said, explaining town-read takes... effort, probably won't try to here, as I spent at least 30 minutes trying to explain it to ceph via skype and he still can't get a clear idea of the read.


I don't even

The interaction between Cutty and Anatole that starts in is troubling. Anatole initiates the snarkiness and escalates it and the overall aggressiveness here looks out of place. Major scum vibe here.

bork I'm curious if this ever changed.

catches my eye given Anatole's complaints about hydras metaing each other. Trying to confirm and make sense of some of it?

buddying?

- I like this post. And

- I like seeing Mala push back on 963. Given the reaction to Tammy's sarcasm when titus thought it was buddying, I wanted to see something from them about Anatole's post here.

Page 40 is pretty frustrating to read. Evidently something about 5-off's first avatar caused a bunch of townreads, but I have no idea what the avatar was.
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:18 pm

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He copied Nashville's avatar.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:54 pm

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- Ceph, what was this in reference to?

has a stubborn contrarian feel to it. I kinda want to call that town. is surprising. I didn't have the impression he'd picked up a bunch of votes.

Nashville Dreams wrote:Also I want to point out that AK's soft claims plus his AtE is pinging my radar especially on the last two pages. He seems like he's scum flailing after one vote which really bothers me.

I want to know am I delirious or does anyone else see what I'm seeing with AK...?

Also HB don't bother answering that other question. I figured out in context what it was about.

~M


Why would scum flail after one vote? A vote from a scumread? There is stuff I don't like about Anatole, but I have the opposite impression of that post.

Cutty Shark wrote:But is it one that would make you town?

-b


True, but what do you think about his apparent expectation that it would make him town?

gossamer wings wrote:Mala's tone is so damn weird, she feels so posturey this game.

She's probably town, though I have reservations, but I wish she'd stop with her act.
Her other head either needs to out who she is, I have a guess it's one out of two, or stop bread dumbing her identity/taunting ika for not figuring it out. I don't get the purpose of wanting a secret hydra and then trying to leak it to one of a couple of people.

Just stop.

Also, if you're really reading me as town because I got mad, that is a shit way to read me and not a town tell. I was town from the start.


I can see trying to crumb it to a townread in an effort to work together or get the person's head in the right place to interpret how I'm playing.

I did that in the one anonymous hydra I've participated in. The player I tried to signal (BROseidon) didn't get the crumb, but I tend to crumb very obscurely when I crumb at all.

BRO thought I was Nacho. :/

- this is a non-consensus reads list. I strongly disagree with the ika placement. Other niggles here and there, but that's the big one.

That's page 45.
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:58 pm

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1004 was about A) the fact that I constantly add worthless modifiers like that as town, and B) an ongoing game.

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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:08 pm

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The pace of this game is really making me lose interest. You guy's are rushing, and it is impossible to pay any real attention to detail.
I'm replacing out. I simply can't enjoy a game that is outside of my comfort zone.
Mafia should be a slow game, played over a cup of coffee. Maybe I'm not ready for the Pro's.

Before I replace out, does anyone want to know something from my role PM?
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:13 pm

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Um. Yeah.
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:21 pm

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Csareo wrote:The pace of this game is really making me lose interest. You guy's are rushing, and it is impossible to pay any real attention to detail.
I'm replacing out. I simply can't enjoy a game that is outside of my comfort zone.
Mafia should be a slow game, played over a cup of coffee. Maybe I'm not ready for the Pro's.

Before I replace out, does anyone want to know something from my role PM?


I believe you are ready for the Pros Csareo. Everyone has a rough start as they get going. That being said, I did notice your attention to detail has significantly suffered compared to the game where I was your IC. From that game, I felt like you are a lot like me in some respects (both good and bad), so I hope you don't give up on playing "with the Pros". Next time, maybe, say that I'm having trouble figuring out what strategies people are applying due to XYZ reason.

I'm still going to scumread your slot after you're gone (won't deny that as I cannot even be sure how legit the rage is... {faking rage as scum is kind of in right now, so I am paranoid of that}) but I do want you to know that you're still welcome around here. I play hard as shit in game, but it stays in game.

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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:22 pm

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@fferylit,

Sorry I've been out for the most part across the board for the past couple days. If there's a question I've missed that Mala head didn't answer, just link me to it please.
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:25 pm

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Nashville Dreams wrote:(won't deny that as I cannot even be sure how legit the rage is...



VOTE: nashvill

your entire case rides on false meta and me having fake rage. this contridicts everything you have said about me.

DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE ALREADY
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:30 pm

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hey titus ready for me to refute your key point to?

where i dont lurk as town?

where i am town

but i did

lurk as town

where i was town and lurked?

so titus what the case now?
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:39 pm

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fferyllt wrote:Csareo how did you go about choosing your 4 players?
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:42 pm

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Oh yes, ffery, regarding 5-off, falcon said he gambits and fake claims a lot as town as well as has a well-developed scum game. From that description, it's not something I would negate for potential scum behavior, ala cabd gambit.
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:43 pm

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ika, stop. You're not getting lynched and no one is listening to Titus. If you want to do something productive with Nashville, you could respond to Mala. btw, that rage thing you quoted in 1840 was about Csareo, not you.
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:47 pm

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Also I'm going to throw out three Mala things that struck me as odd for various reasons:
a) She described her attempted reachout to bork as subtle, which seems counterproductive to me.
b) She said she was biting her tongue about something (idr what it was). I asked for her to go ahead and say it and the response was lackluster (idr what it was).
3. She said she was okay with being lynched, then tries to defend her slot and acts as though she never said she was okay with being lynched.

Also, I don't think Titus ever gave a proper explanation for those dumb military crumb things.
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:47 pm

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fferyllt wrote:
fferyllt wrote:Csareo how did you go about choosing your 4 players?

I was under the impression no choice was involved. I believe the claim is informed townie or something.

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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:50 pm

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Cutty Shark wrote:ika, stop. You're not getting lynched and no one is listening to Titus. If you want to do something productive with Nashville, you could respond to Mala. btw, that rage thing you quoted in 1840 was about Csareo, not you.


i have no need to respond to scums.

the slot is scum.
-mala goes and says "FINE LYNCH ME" but does not self-vote
-mala reaches out to me but i dont care the slot vote says otherwise, she has full controll of the vote
-sevral times has implied she not part of the town
-did a reach out when i said if i go back im going to rage*
*i didnt read it to begin with, even if i did im rejecting it b/c it only mala and not both mala and titus
*if it was soley mala in the slot at the game i woudl say sure
-pretty much goes "fuck you" when i did not go to the reach out*
*is that how a town should respond?
*i know in a game where i was scum (that is linked in the thread) i did the same thing

so no i have no intrest in reaching out to mala this game. maybe another game on another day but not this game

the slot is scum
-they have no sync
-they have no town motive
-they have misreped
-if they are town they are horrendiouly wrong and a liability (yes this can be applied to me as well on the later)
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:50 pm

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sk is that you atm? im presuming so b/c its not siged but want to make sure.

i want to ask you a question:

remember when you were asking em about mass rolecall earlier?
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:51 pm

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Csareo wrote:Okay, I don't know why my predecessor didn't say anything. I feel my role is more believable if I claim now, rather than later.
I may be doing something wrong, because I have never had an informational role in this manner. The passive role
allows me to know the identity of 4 random players
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Anyways, I never claim D1, but I'm trusting my better judgement here. My role is rather useless, anyways.


I think you're right. I somehow got the impression he'd selected 4 players.
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