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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:35 am

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Votecount 3.02


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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:49 pm

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I don't like either of these wagons.

VOTE: pants
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:54 pm

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explin pls.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:35 am

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Pants ain't a bad choice.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:47 am

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I just think it's him/ip

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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:27 am

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reaaaally don't see pants being scum tho

so there's that
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:28 am

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I think I can see Bins being scum now actually

mostly due to not remembering a single thing she's done
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:44 am

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I'll be here later atm I'm kinda shaken up
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:51 am

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Fwiw I don't think Pants or Bins are scum.

I'm remarkably unsure about everyone else.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:24 am

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really not scum marquis
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:34 am

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K guys, so I reread the first couple of days and I'm pretty sure Marquis is scum. Here's a wall of text for you:

Spoiler: Marquis ISO Review
tree wrote:VOTE: notscience

*dance*

tree wrote:2 votes now, hurry, hurry!

tree wrote:*wiggle*

I see nothing particularly interesting except for notscience being scum.

Marquis begins the game by trying to start a wagon on NS. While this was the beginning of the game, and reads/wagons are not going to have a lot of evidence backing them, what makes this note worthy is how little effort Marquis puts into her read. She basically calls NS scum for no listed reason, and wants a wagon on him. Well, ok, right? It is the beginning of the game after all, early wagons without much backing are pretty common. So what happens when the wagon gets going?

tree wrote:notscience is obviously town.

*wiggly*


Total 180 on her previous scum read of NS. Again, nothing substantial is given to why Marquis changed her position like that. She asked for a wagon on NS, got a wagon on NS, and proceeded to disband the wagon on NS. Given that this was only a couple pages into the game, and a quick lynch was very unlikely, this seems like an overreaction.

tree wrote:
BlueBloodedToffee wrote:PL Tree comment has already been explained; nothing more to add.

Maybe this is scum..

tree wrote:VOTE: BBT

Since notscience and InflatablePie are town, and I'm feeling better about Bins, Malakittens, and Dr Pants, this will be a great lynch for today.


Throughout day 1, Marquis never had strong reads. She flipped from NS to me, then to mala, then to BBT on pretty flimsy reasons. While Marquis was the first vote on the BBT wagon, BBT was so antagonistic towards town that this would make for an easy lynch. It seems like Marquis had to give herself an "excuse" to vote BBT.

tree wrote:I've been prodded.

I want him hammered soon, this is getting old. Today either ends with an active tree stump or a nice and dead arsonist.


This is minor but perhaps notable: Marquis completely disregards the possibility that BBT could have been the fire fighter.

tree wrote:The lack of a death in this setup is making me feel weird about scumhunting.

notscience's 339 and 340 is so over the top it's also making me feel weird.


This is a generically scummy comment.

tree wrote:VOTE: inflatablepie

For the record, I was convinced yesterday that there was scum between the two of them.

InflatablePie wrote:also it should go without saying that I
would
like a response from BBT before we lynch him even though I think he's scum.

to be safe.

maybe we should just lynch me and I can go be all stumpy and shit; get it out of the way now because if BBT does flip town I'm pretty much the d2 lynch.


This was a horrible post.


Marquis hedges on Pie, essentially saying that she hedged on pie/bbt day 1. This vote is also highly convenient given BBT's stance towards Pie.

tree wrote:I like Pie's response a bit, but I also don't like his attempts to explain away certain parts of his ISO that were, in fact, hedging. Just because you admit to it for one post doesn't mean other just as bad instances of it aren't the same thing- hedging.

VOTE: notscience

Mala is a very strong townread here. I can see notscience as scum and I trust her ability to read him.


Once the wagon on NS starts up again, Marquis instantly joins.

Marquis wrote:VOTE: majiffy

forgot I shouldn't be taking him-town for granted, read his ISO, looks a lot like his scumgame


This is similar to the BBT vote in that it seems like Marquis needs to give herself an excuse to vote majiffy.

Marquis wrote:ns sheep me


This makes no sense in the context that Marquis was just scum reading NS.

Marquis wrote:but that's what i've been doing this whole game and i'm town

VOTE: ns


And then back to voting NS.


Essentially, Marquis has had highly convenient reads the entire game. Her reads move around quite a bit, and seem to always align with whichever way the majority happens to be thinking. She needed to post fluff before voting BBT and Majiffy, and pushed both of those lynches despite not doing much actual scum hunting. There are also inconsistencies within Marquis's line of thinking. For example, scum reading NS/sheeping mala, then asking NS to join her on a majiffy wagon.

VOTE: Marquis
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:49 pm

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I'm tempted just to sheep the effort. Will look closely at this game tomorrow when I don't have a test.
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:56 pm

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yeah, i think i'm town
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:58 pm

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Can I ask for everyone's reads in a nice and orderly fashion?
is this where I tell you to swipe right

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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:00 pm

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sure give me until tomorrow to figure out which mislynches i can get on which days
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:01 pm

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sorry that was uncalled for. i'm in a fuck-everything-especially-complex-roots-and-mislynches mood tonight
i'm going to try and do a full iso reread and give reads by tomorrow night / wednesday morning
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:13 pm

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Bins wrote:Can I ask for everyone's reads in a nice and orderly fashion?



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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:11 pm

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Bins wrote:Can I ask for everyone's reads in a nice and orderly fashion?

Town


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Scum



Or something like that
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:11 pm

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Dr Pants wrote:K guys, so I reread the first couple of days and I'm pretty sure Marquis is scum. Here's a wall of text for you:

Spoiler: Marquis ISO Review
tree wrote:VOTE: notscience

*dance*

tree wrote:2 votes now, hurry, hurry!

tree wrote:*wiggle*

I see nothing particularly interesting except for notscience being scum.

Marquis begins the game by trying to start a wagon on NS. While this was the beginning of the game, and reads/wagons are not going to have a lot of evidence backing them, what makes this note worthy is how little effort Marquis puts into her read. She basically calls NS scum for no listed reason, and wants a wagon on him. Well, ok, right? It is the beginning of the game after all, early wagons without much backing are pretty common. So what happens when the wagon gets going?

tree wrote:notscience is obviously town.

*wiggly*


Total 180 on her previous scum read of NS. Again, nothing substantial is given to why Marquis changed her position like that. She asked for a wagon on NS, got a wagon on NS, and proceeded to disband the wagon on NS. Given that this was only a couple pages into the game, and a quick lynch was very unlikely, this seems like an overreaction.

tree wrote:
BlueBloodedToffee wrote:PL Tree comment has already been explained; nothing more to add.

Maybe this is scum..

tree wrote:VOTE: BBT

Since notscience and InflatablePie are town, and I'm feeling better about Bins, Malakittens, and Dr Pants, this will be a great lynch for today.


Throughout day 1, Marquis never had strong reads. She flipped from NS to me, then to mala, then to BBT on pretty flimsy reasons. While Marquis was the first vote on the BBT wagon, BBT was so antagonistic towards town that this would make for an easy lynch. It seems like Marquis had to give herself an "excuse" to vote BBT.

tree wrote:I've been prodded.

I want him hammered soon, this is getting old. Today either ends with an active tree stump or a nice and dead arsonist.


This is minor but perhaps notable: Marquis completely disregards the possibility that BBT could have been the fire fighter.

tree wrote:The lack of a death in this setup is making me feel weird about scumhunting.

notscience's 339 and 340 is so over the top it's also making me feel weird.


This is a generically scummy comment.

tree wrote:VOTE: inflatablepie

For the record, I was convinced yesterday that there was scum between the two of them.

InflatablePie wrote:also it should go without saying that I
would
like a response from BBT before we lynch him even though I think he's scum.

to be safe.

maybe we should just lynch me and I can go be all stumpy and shit; get it out of the way now because if BBT does flip town I'm pretty much the d2 lynch.


This was a horrible post.


Marquis hedges on Pie, essentially saying that she hedged on pie/bbt day 1. This vote is also highly convenient given BBT's stance towards Pie.

tree wrote:I like Pie's response a bit, but I also don't like his attempts to explain away certain parts of his ISO that were, in fact, hedging. Just because you admit to it for one post doesn't mean other just as bad instances of it aren't the same thing- hedging.

VOTE: notscience

Mala is a very strong townread here. I can see notscience as scum and I trust her ability to read him.


Once the wagon on NS starts up again, Marquis instantly joins.

Marquis wrote:VOTE: majiffy

forgot I shouldn't be taking him-town for granted, read his ISO, looks a lot like his scumgame


This is similar to the BBT vote in that it seems like Marquis needs to give herself an excuse to vote majiffy.

Marquis wrote:ns sheep me


This makes no sense in the context that Marquis was just scum reading NS.

Marquis wrote:but that's what i've been doing this whole game and i'm town

VOTE: ns


And then back to voting NS.


Essentially, Marquis has had highly convenient reads the entire game. Her reads move around quite a bit, and seem to always align with whichever way the majority happens to be thinking. She needed to post fluff before voting BBT and Majiffy, and pushed both of those lynches despite not doing much actual scum hunting. There are also inconsistencies within Marquis's line of thinking. For example, scum reading NS/sheeping mala, then asking NS to join her on a majiffy wagon.

VOTE: Marquis

dis what I say

I feel like I was the only person scumreading tree on Day 1

VOTE: Marquis
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:15 pm

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Dr Pants

{notscience
Marquis

Malakittens}

scum


i see dis

but i can see pants scum as well like honestly the only two people i dont see as scum are bulge and pie
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:41 pm

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I'll at least wait to L-1 marquis til tomorrow evening, in case of ~shenanigans~
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:50 pm

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watch out guys i have a nasty habit of selfhammering as town

ill bbl but in the meantime! dont vote me if you dont want a town selfhammer ;]]
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:58 pm

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well in that case

VOTE: marquis
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:59 pm

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I don't even right now.

lolnope.

I wish bins would actually place her vote on me rather than sidelining her read on me and keep waffling on it.

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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:01 pm

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VOTE: malakittens
is this where I tell you to swipe right

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