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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:53 pm

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farside22 wrote:1)Can you explain why 3 players is making a case on everyone?
2)Why dgb, who want to rush lynches, not scum hunt or ask questions and believes players have an ability without question is town. No I don't go with gut based on her...what 5 or 6 post that offers nothing.
3)Also why is my flip dependent on juls?


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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:28 am

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Town: ABR, DGB, Tbone, UT
Scum: HI, ika, Bulge, AV
Need to read again cause lots of words: farside
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:22 am

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UT town, why?
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:24 am

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T-Bone wrote:UT town, why?

Because he was pushing for the hammer. The only way I could read him as scum is if I thought you were scum and he was bussing. Otherwise, it's a major risk to push a hammer for a town flip.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:30 am

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I definitely don't see it that way. Because A) he wasn't the only one and B) It would take a lot more than that to lynch someone on Day 2.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:32 am

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But it would certainly bring unnecessary attention his way. My reads are fluid though. He doesn't get a forever-pass based on that.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:34 am

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I'm leaning scum on him at this point so I wanted to see where you were coming from. I find him to be really opportunistic this game and not in a pro-town way.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:34 am

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Unvote, vote DDD


I find his last post very scummy. There are similar qualities to it as DLA-scum in BrBa.

I'm certain that between Konowa and DDD, we've got scum.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:37 am

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HI wreaks of scum, I would really like more votes on him.

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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:43 am

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Yes. When I see it, I know it. I've seen this thought process before. I may be wrong about one of them, but either DDD or Konowa or both are scum.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:44 am

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ABR, quote me that DDD post? You know, any of them? Go ahead, I'll be waiting.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:44 am

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Wrong thread.

Unvote, vote Konowa
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:45 am

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I thought Hostile was leaning Town after Juls fakedayvig, but his farside is pretty bad.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:46 am

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*his farside vote is pretty bad
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:47 am

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uhhh what?
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:49 am

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Were you confusing your read on Konica with another thread as well or are you in the right thread now?
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:04 am

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Juls wrote:
T-Bone wrote:UT town, why?

Because he was pushing for the hammer. The only way I could read him as scum is if I thought you were scum and he was bussing. Otherwise, it's a major risk to push a hammer for a town flip.


Meh. I think it's null. I'm more curious why UT is still voting tbone at this point. The comments he's made towards tbone don't read as a player that see's him scummy.

Why the town read on dgb?

Juls wrote:HI wreaks of scum, I would really like more votes on him.

Pedit:DDD?


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I think vox, dgb and ika should be pressured to explain more then they have.
Can I say the bulge not being around bothers me currently? Or is that harping? :evil:


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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:08 am

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Mostly gut on DGB based on the past few games. HI being a VI does not and should not exclude him from being voted.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:23 am

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Sorry, I've been having a pretty busy week. I should be able to read up and post tonight.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:23 am

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Quit harping me, farside
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:41 am

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The Bulge wrote:Quit harping me, farside



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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:47 am

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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:20 am

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farside22 wrote:Meh. I think it's null. I'm more curious why UT is still voting tbone at this point.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:39 am

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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:10 am

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I now remember why I quit mafia in the first place.

*Sigh*

So I've read up to date. Here's where I'm at:

Unvote Juls
for claimed confirmable (presumably obvTown) part of his power.

farside you asked something about why I unvoted T-Bone when I found him scummy. I never said I found T-Bone scummy. I voted him because early game wagon.

You asked why I found Juls scummy. I'm not convinced he saw much "scummy" in T-Bone's posting where he is claiming to have (later on he says this was not the case, but at the time it appeared he found T-Bone scummy, because otherwise, why not vote farside at the time of that post?). He asked some weirdass question about why UT assumed he was town when there was nothing even like that in what UT had said. After I voted him, there's also the shitty fakekill which I don't find helpful after a fakehammer. These justified keeping my vote on him over T-Bone who had only been a wagon vote early in the game.

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As for "harpgate", I don't necessarily see farside as "harping" as two posts hardly constitutes continually calling someone out. It depends in part on T-Bone's threshold and definition for what harping is. His response seemed to explain where he was coming from, but I'm not too convinced that the nomenclature was right so tend towards farside's dissatisfaction with it; although the messy "lynch all liars" angle I don't see much value in, because it looks more like two people with different versions of the truth going up against one another (also hence the reason for it going on so long). I've also seen that a few votes have been going farside's way but I don't really see why: she seems to be proactive in trying to gain reads on players. Of the two, farside seems probableTown, T-Bone is meh. He seems to believe what he's saying even though what he's saying may not be right. I can see that coming from either scum or town.

Honestly ika reads town-ish to me as well. The flitting of votes looks protown as he's trying to figure out where the scum lie. [ur=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6222668]This post[/url] is pretty bad and lessens my confidence in that read but it's still on the town side. Oh and in response to your question ika, no.
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