Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: Anatole

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: TSO

[Flubbernugget]

Anatole what are you doing

[Anatole Kuragin]

building rackmounted NVRs in cases made for people with much smaller fingers than myself

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think Reck or TSO or both are scum. I'd vote either one.

[farside22]

I think Reck or TSO or both are scum. I'd vote either one.

Where or why are you scum reading reck?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Ugh vezok is town. Okay.

Ugh vezok is town. Okay.

Please show meta why this is town vezo.

When you've played enough games with vezok, you can just get a feeling from the way he formats a post. It's weird. I can't think of any specific meta, it's more of a gut/unspoken meta tell.

Talking to vezok is like learning to speak another language.

Also, I kinda agree with his reads list and I don't think it was the easy way out like you do... both myself & myko have had suspicion thrown our way during the day, yet he reads us as town... you and Espresso are pretty ballsy scum reads... it just seems genuine, not sheepy.

I don't want to read it.

TLDR

- farside talks at other people about me and just keeps repeating "he faked his reads" because she hasn't read the five million posts I've made explaining it to her
- I point out that farside is talking around me and not actually interested in earnest scumhunting and then once backed into a corner and realizing nobody is biting on her tunnelvision she "compromises" onto vezok (another shitty, easy to push lynch)

Matt, if your theory is myko/SSK/vezok, I'd much rather lynch SSK first out of that group.

Yeah I'm reading back now.

I don't see myko as scum but I guess I could see the SSK/vezok link.

VOTE: vezokpiraka

Here first, then SSK?

Reck was way too easily convinced vezok was scum, considering the case on him being total garbage.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I was scumreading him since the beginning of the game, but you and vezok vouched for him. Vezok is dead and my opinion of your mafia play is pretty much ruined if you are town so either way that's not a deterrent anymore.

[mykonian]

yesterdays end:

Matt going : this is the lynch, then voting ssk after there has been a hammer isn't cool. 2 min after that he "realizes" reck hammered.
TSO putting at l-1 without any lead up (which kind of was expected there, the discussion was going elsewhere and he had been pushing ssk hard)
Reck hammering without... anything. Hammers, disappears again.

Time to talk guys. Now way that that happened with all of you being town, but it'd be hilarious if that happened with all of you being scum. Who of you can explain his fuckup the best.

[Anatole Kuragin]

VOTE: vezokpiraka

Here first, then SSK?

SSK what do you think of the lynch yesterday? Can you confirm/deny you didn't target anyone, because I'd happily give you up as a PR to confirm a scum and start to figure this shit out.

[farside22]

I was scumreading him since the beginning of the game, but you and vezok vouched for him. Vezok is dead and my opinion of your mafia play is pretty much ruined if you are town so either way that's not a deterrent anymore.

I didn't vouch for reck. I was pushing his lynch day one.
As for you other comment about my play.....ditto to you and your play this game.

Vote: reck

[Anatole Kuragin]

My mistake, you're right abut your posts on Reck.

I am just completely speechless that you would vote me at the beginning of this day given what happened yesterday and the fact that I was most likely the failed night kill.

[xRECKONERx]

Yeah, like I said, I didn't realize it was a hammer. We have very,

very

infrequent vote counts (sorry, Mod, still love you <3) and I thought vezok had like two votes on him. Honestly had no clue I was hammering.

I just got deflated yesterday. I don't know how long I can repeat myself that farside is scum and have people ignore me before I give up. End of day yesterday, I got tired of hounding everyone and the post in question Matt addressed by vezok re: SSK looked enough like a link for me to vote there. I don't know that I would've changed my mind knowing it was a hammer, but I certainly wouldn't have done it that soon, because we were in the middle of good discussion.

I'm not sure where this scumread from Anatole is coming from since he

hasn't mentioned it once

.

[farside22]

My mistake, you're right abut your posts on Reck.

I am just completely speechless that you would vote me at the beginning of this day given what happened yesterday and the fact that I was most likely the failed night kill.

Your play this game feels miles apart from the game we were in last.
Your cases were better. You were thinking things out and trying to pull the game apart based on reads. This game none if that.
All that said why would anyone target you over the claimed tracker?

[xRECKONERx]

How can you scum read Mafiassk, who joins the Vezo wagon early, while also keeping your vote on Vezo?

Do you not realize that bussing is a thing? Having a scumread on someone who is on another scumread's wagon doesn't suddenly make it impossible for both to be scum.

[xRECKONERx]

All that said why would anyone target you over the claimed tracker?

This, too, rubs me weird from Anatole. I think it's highly, highly likely Matt was the target.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Yeah, like I said, I didn't realize it was a hammer. We have very,

very

infrequent vote counts (sorry, Mod, still love you <3) and I thought vezok had like two votes on him. Honestly had no clue I was hammering.

I just got deflated yesterday. I don't know how long I can repeat myself that farside is scum and have people ignore me before I give up. End of day yesterday, I got tired of hounding everyone and the post in question Matt addressed by vezok re: SSK looked enough like a link for me to vote there. I don't know that I would've changed my mind knowing it was a hammer, but I certainly wouldn't have done it that soon, because we were in the middle of good discussion.

I'm not sure where this scumread from Anatole is coming from since he

hasn't mentioned it once

.

VOTE: xXxReckonerxXx

Fencesitting about a case that never existed is scummy. Refusing to give "meta" analysis to defend a supposed goof is also scummy.

What part of voting that is icky or sucked?

Reck, if you saw another player make the comments you made, you wouldn't find that suspicious?

I don't know if Csareo's vote on me is any more scummy than Espresso's bullshit "reaction test" into "I think you may be a power role..", "HAHA I WAS WRONG YOU ARE TOTALLY SCUM LOOK AT YOU FLAIL!" after I make one comment about his case being dumb, into completely avoiding my asking him for reads which he said he would post "tomorrow" two days ago.

And reck, your voting with espresso is even dumber than the dumb vote from farside you're referring to. Like, his case is that I have been trying to push every little thing I could, but I didn't even vote him after his horrendous series of "please play the game for me" posts. So how does that even follow?

I think the list is weird because, as has been mentioned, Reck isn't playing like town Reck.

I think there is a decent chance beli and reck are scum, regardless of espresso's alignment.

So what happened with your secret TSO tell reck? Didn't pan out?

Good question. Reck - why do you like the case against Matt *and* the case he is making? Do you think he is a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde type monster and Flubber is only scumbuddies with one aspect of his person?

you're right I should have mentioned at some point that I was suspicious of you, guess I didn't get around to it

[xRECKONERx]

Can you please stop this stupid fucking habit of quoting a million posts in a row to make a point? It's really anti-town.

[Anatole Kuragin]

How is it anti-town?

[Anatole Kuragin]

Did you not just say I never expressed that I was scumreading you? Did all of those posts require explanation aside from displaying that you were obviously full of shit?

[xRECKONERx]

Guess I've skipped a lot of your posts. And those posts are generally light suspicion of me, with ONE vote on me early game. Coming in D3 and going "Oh, Reck or TSO" seems like a big leap from "some things Reck is doing are suspicious but not enough to vote him".

P.EDIT: It makes the game harder to read and creates long noise posts that demotivate town, and what you quoted isn't exactly important to read/be quoted to anyone else. You could've linked to the posts or just quoted one or something. It's not only obnoxious as hell, but it makes people want to skim/not read your posts (as I have done a lot this game, as stated above).

[xRECKONERx]

Also, way to misrep me above... I didn't say specifically quoting THOSE POSTS was anti-town, but that's how you defended it... I said your

habit

of quoting a million posts in a row was anti-town.

[Anatole Kuragin]

You're right, creating what you see as a slight inconvenience is more anti-town than deliberately ignoring the content of posts.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Who is scum reck?

[xRECKONERx]

Farside.