Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[Csareo]

Sounds like he's trying to justify a wagon without actually risking being CC'd.

His partner lives, and he can still justify his existence.
Especially since we are lylo after this.

This was the strategy of my first mafia game, one I was scum in.

[mykonian]

That's the second fucking time the "there's no reason why scum would" while we this time we are looking at a possible last mislynch for a fakeclaim being on the line, by a player who's been one of the scummiest all game and who played a dubious role in last days lynch.

why is that line of argumentation even used in defense for players anyway. You aren't even thinking about what scum would gain.

[Anatole Kuragin]

he was townreading him until this post, which makes sense imo

Actually
UNVOTE: mafiassk
VOTE: TSO
I'm really suspicious of his intentions this game.
He seemed to manafacture an SSK wagon on D2, while also finishing the Vezokrika lynch.
Since Mafiassk joined the vezo wagon early, it isn't likely Mafiassk was bussing (which is confirmed now), meaning that TSO's vote was incompatible with his scum read on Mafiassk.

Something I'm not buying into. I also am suspicious of him constantly calling me town.
I have this gut feeling that if I were scum, I would want to keep the VI around to mislynch later into the game.

[mykonian]

TSO hasn't even told us what his PR is. Scum 101.
Sounds like he's trying to justify a wagon without actually risking being CC'd.

As scum he gets one dead townie.
I really don't get why you think this is scummy.

FARSIDE

THINK BEFORE YOU PRESS SUBMIT.

[farside22]

There's no reason for scum to be desperate enough to fake claim at this point considering how shit we have played, tbh

This^

I'm looking for a few response before I vote.

You know better than this. Scum fake PR's more than anyone else, and it's to get a basis for lynches.

Yea it's typically fake doc/protective roles.

Were you scum reading him before the soft claim?


Ebwop: fair enough csa.

[Csareo]

I'm pretty sure scum wins if we mislynch.
We kill a townie today, another is NK'd, and a mafia can die tommorow and still win with the final NK.

Dependent on TSO not being a good that is. Even then, scum would only need to finish one more town lynch.

[Csareo]

*a goon

[farside22]

TSO hasn't even told us what his PR is. Scum 101.
Sounds like he's trying to justify a wagon without actually risking being CC'd.

As scum he gets one dead townie.
I really don't get why you think this is scummy.

FARSIDE

THINK BEFORE YOU PRESS SUBMIT.

HE GETS LYNCHED FOR LYING! Wtf

[Anatole Kuragin]

I'm pretty sure scum wins if we mislynch.
We kill a townie today, another is NK'd, and a mafia can die tommorow and still win with the final NK.

Dependent on TSO not being a good that is. Even then, scum would only need to finish one more town lynch.

we have to mislynch twice assuming no saves

[Anatole Kuragin]

TSO full claim, all results

[mykonian]

Actually, reck might have a point. There's a thin border between passive and annoying and being scum in plain view.

[farside22]

I'm pretty sure scum wins if we mislynch.
We kill a townie today, another is NK'd, and a mafia can die tommorow and still win with the final NK.

Dependent on TSO not being a good that is. Even then, scum would only need to finish one more town lynch.

9 player
Typically 3 scum
6 town - mislynch
5 town-Nk town
4/3 tomorrow
Lynch scum
2/4
You get the idea

[mykonian]

csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?

[farside22]

Actually, reck might have a point. There's a thin border between passive and annoying and being scum in plain view.

That better be directed at recks own play.

[Anatole Kuragin]

tso and reck have both been pretty passive and annoying

[Csareo]

That's dependent on TSO being lynched tommorow, which isn't even for sure. TSO also has a reputation forstarting wagons on scumbuddies and playing out the rest of the game.
He did it in BE's 1601, starting the wagon on his scum buddy.

There are a million possibilities, none of which discredit the evidence we have to believe TSO is lying.

[Csareo]

Sorry, above is a reply to farside

[farside22]

csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?

Why don't you fucking ask me?
I'm fucking curious why people auto believe he is fake claiming.
Seriously myko do you not fucking read before you submit?

[Anatole Kuragin]

That's dependent on TSO being lynched tommorow, which isn't even for sure. TSO also has a reputation forstarting wagons on scumbuddies and playing out the rest of the game.
He did it in BE's 1601, starting the wagon on his scum buddy.

There are a million possibilities, none of which discredit the evidence we have to believe TSO is lying.

what evidence do we have that he is lying?

[farside22]

That's dependent on TSO being lynched tommorow, which isn't even for sure. TSO also has a reputation forstarting wagons on scumbuddies and playing out the rest of the game.
He did it in BE's 1601, starting the wagon on his scum buddy.

There are a million possibilities, none of which discredit the evidence we have to believe TSO is lying.

Yea, I can see that thought process.

If he is scum It is wifom with SSK.

[Csareo]

csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?

I have no idea. Farside's defense is unusual, because it is also very reactionary.
Which is why I doubt it is do to a solid town read on TSO.

I can only justify such reactionary posts, if farside were to have confirmed TSO in the night. Also unlikely.

[mykonian]

csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?

Why don't you fucking ask me?

because talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. You just repeat your point endlessly, even if I'm asking out that particular point and why you'd ever make it in the face of all evidence.

So asking csareo is more productive. He's on my line of thought here, and he's not feeling my annoyance for you, so he might have a better view if my annoyance is just that or if you are scum.

So I'd rather not talk to you, tyvm.

Pedit: Thanks.

[Csareo]

Not even an FOS on farside. I think he's town.
If TSO flips scum, then I would point out the early buddying in late D1 + early D2.

[mykonian]

knowing her personality, it makes most sense if tso is town, she's scum, for the record.

[farside22]

csareo, you are posting sense here. Can you explain to me why farside is full on defending tso here?

I have no idea. Farside's defense is unusual, because it is also very reactionary.
Which is why I doubt it is do to a solid town read on TSO.

I can only justify such reactionary posts, if farside were to have confirmed TSO in the night. Also unlikely.

No I don't have a town read on tso. The claim seemed natural and had to do with others reaction to his claim.

Not that myko reads things I post.