Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Baboon Pride]

Our vote sucks. Then again, I'm barely paying attention (sorry :S).

-Ceph

[Nashville Dreams]

I think Baboon just claimed scum with that vote.

Why

-b

I want an answer to this too. Fonz is in my POE pool and someone I intend to take a closer look at.

Fonz is conftown from my perspective. How theyclaimed and that it fits perfectly with our claim makes zero sense from scum. Baboon votes there stopping people from reading Fonz as the town he is.

[Baboon Pride]

Baboon votes there stopping people from reading Fonz as the town he is.

This is a load of bull. When has that ever happened in the history of mafia.

-Ceph

[Baboon Pride]

VOTE: nashville

-Ceph

[Anatole Kuragin]

I think Baboon just claimed scum with that vote.

Why

-b

I want an answer to this too. Fonz is in my POE pool and someone I intend to take a closer look at.

Fonz is conftown from my perspective. How theyclaimed and that it fits perfectly with our claim makes zero sense from scum. Baboon votes there stopping people from reading Fonz as the town he is.

I don't get this - because he had a confirmed night action on someone who didn't die, he's conftown?

[The Fonz]

So does anyone other than Nashville have a firm scumread on anyone? It feels like only me, and Shark up to a point, are doing any scumhunting today.

[Lissa]

I need to reread but I don't know where to start.
Isos are easier to process and draw reads from
but only reading them misses some interactions
So I need to reread the full thread also
all ninety-one pages.
Argh

Hopefully I can get some good reads by doing that. I'm better at getting good reads, especially scumreads, a bit later in the game, so hopefully I will be able to get better reads now.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Can you guys re-read your PMs and make sure you don't have an item to give?

[Lissa]

Can you guys re-read your PMs and make sure you don't have an item to give?

Done. I do not have an item to give, sorry.

I'm really wondering if, assuming you're telling the truth, the whole item thing in your role is a red herring. Not sure though.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I wonder if all the power rules have some sort of weird neutralizing aspect - it would make sense with nash's camera breaking and whatever the fuck is happening with f-16/fonz in the night scene. It would be weird if the twist on my role is just that I can't use it because it depends on a mechanic that doesn't exist though since the theme of the game is weird night results and flavor which I would never see if I can't perform an action.

[Anatole Kuragin]

probably not pro-town to discuss that any further, but for now I'm going to continue assuming SOMEONE has an item for me.

[Baboon Pride]

V/LA until wednesdayish

Mara

[Nashville Dreams]

Mala if you want to work together then this has to be the day for working together:

1) I don't think my request about why you picked Gossamer to track is unjustified, so at least help me out with that or definitively say you're not answering it and I'll drop it. I'm not gonna drop it to mollify Titus re: what she is saying I'm trying to do with it because what she was arguing is idiotic
2) You're scumreading Oka for beetlejuicing I see; who else today?
3) What do you think of BP after yesterday?
4) What do you think of Fonz/AK interactions and Fonz/me interactions?
5) How are you feeling on ffery?

-b

1) We accidentally misread something in the role PM. We thought it was a watcher until we read closely and realized it wasn't.
2) Not for beetlejuicing. Amished tell. I don't really like 5-Off and I'm starting to question my townread on BP, but not enough where I'll want to lynch them.
3) See above. ^
4) I haven't actually read them as thoroughly as I should have. I'll get back to you on that.
5) Kinda liking her for town, but not so confident on it as I am when we play in newbies together.

~M

[Cutty Shark]

1) We accidentally misread something in the role PM. We thought it was a watcher until we read closely and realized it wasn't.

Why the

fuck

was Titus dodgy about that / getting on my ass for fishing or whatever the fuck then if you made a tactical error that I think is pretty reasonable to have asked about?

-b

[Cutty Shark]

I wonder if all the power rules have some sort of weird neutralizing aspect - it would make sense with nash's camera breaking and whatever the fuck is happening with f-16/fonz in the night scene. It would be weird if the twist on my role is just that I can't use it because it depends on a mechanic that doesn't exist though since the theme of the game is weird night results and flavor which I would never see if I can't perform an action.

I have a little information to share about the state of abilities and what scum might have available to them. I don't know how to reconcile it with what happened last night (namely because there is no objective interpretation of it) but it might inform how we evaluate other slots.

I do not have an item to give you, but I think I've been pretty clear on that.

-b

[OkaPoka]

Mala if you want to work together then this has to be the day for working together:

1) I don't think my request about why you picked Gossamer to track is unjustified, so at least help me out with that or definitively say you're not answering it and I'll drop it. I'm not gonna drop it to mollify Titus re: what she is saying I'm trying to do with it because what she was arguing is idiotic
2) You're scumreading Oka for beetlejuicing I see; who else today?
3) What do you think of BP after yesterday?
4) What do you think of Fonz/AK interactions and Fonz/me interactions?
5) How are you feeling on ffery?

-b

1) We accidentally misread something in the role PM. We thought it was a watcher until we read closely and realized it wasn't.
2) Not for beetlejuicing. Amished tell. I don't really like 5-Off and I'm starting to question my townread on BP, but not enough where I'll want to lynch them.
3) See above. ^
4) I haven't actually read them as thoroughly as I should have. I'll get back to you on that.
5) Kinda liking her for town, but not so confident on it as I am when we play in newbies together.

~M

how the hell am I trash talking the predecessor other than calling it a mess? If you're only case on me is "a mess" then you need to redefine trashtalking.

[Cutty Shark]

So does anyone other than Nashville have a firm scumread on anyone?

Sadly, no.

I'd default to Nashville because I'm not satisfied with their justifications for their actions. F-16 has a decent point that they came out of the gate with a mission but they backed off on it so fast it's almost null.

AK needs corroboration for his role. Like if your role even POSSIBLY has an item to it, fucking target him tonight. I'm willing to give him another day because he's shining a light on his own slot so hard.

Oka's throwing reads but needs some transparency to them. I give no credence to Titus' 'executives are scum' hypothesis (and yet she's voting me, who is decidedly not an executive)

5-off needs to get back into it, I acknowledge the RL stuff.

Tammy did a lot to make that slot town; I wish I had some effort from F-16, especially after I saw him attack what he thought was blood in the water (me, then Nacho) in 346, or his thoughtful collaboration in Tales.

I think you're making me more comfortable with you (Fonz), gutwise from your responses today. I'm a little wary of your role.

I still want to call Baboon town. I actually don't think scum would've made the post about honey bee turning into a 'legitimate wagon' and am struggling to articulate why. I'll try to.

ffery has a stay until she gets computer.

Lissa's rereading so I'll wait for that, but certain things she did at end of D1 made me think town.

So many people are in the null area because 1) nothing is happening right now and 2) I don't really trust my D1 reads this game.

-b

[Nashville Dreams]

1) We accidentally misread something in the role PM. We thought it was a watcher until we read closely and realized it wasn't.

Why the

fuck

was Titus dodgy about that / getting on my ass for fishing or whatever the fuck then if you made a tactical error that I think is pretty reasonable to have asked about?

-b

because it shows what our thinking was in our night actions. We 'watched' f16 because we thought that the slot was going to be killed until we realized we had a tracker type role instead of a watcher. Our flavor kinda threw us off.

IDK. lets just leave it at that please

~R

[Nashville Dreams]

I'd default to Nashville because I'm not satisfied with their justifications for their actions. F-16 has a decent point that they came out of the gate with a mission but they backed off on it so fast it's almost null.

They made a comment about their night flavor from nati that aligned with ours. We did also wake up with a headache and our camera broken. So in retrospect it made sense that that slot got either blocked or something off the sort which is why i backed off and realized that I was reading too much into the flavor. I got caught up on the wording of "the slot was acting suspicious" and jumped the gun.

If you can't deal with the justifications of our actions then so be it.

~M

[Cutty Shark]

because it shows what our thinking was in our night actions. We 'watched' f16 because we thought that the slot was going to be killed until we realized we had a tracker type role instead of a watcher. Our flavor kinda threw us off.

That doesn't answer my question at all.

I asked 'why you tracked <townread>' and instead of 'we thought we were

watching

townread' she said 'why are you trying to extrapolate who I might target tomorrow'

That makes no sense at all even normally, but definitely doesn't considering what you just told me. If she (or you) knew I was misinterpreting your mindset it makes no sense to think I'm scummy for asking about it.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

If you can't deal with the justifications of our actions then so be it.

Considering what I've had to do to even

get

any justifications for them, I wish you wouldn't dismiss my concerns so quickly.

Why is your vote still on me?

-b

[Nashville Dreams]

UNVOTE:

I keep forgetting it's there.

I still need to sync with titus, but working and being ill is keeping me from doing that. Also our phone company changed our plan so we are out of data so Im not allowed to be on skype at work due to it. So I'm limited to computer skype so everything is a lot harder than it should be =\

~M

[Cutty Shark]

Skrew and I talked and I've decided the game is probably best served by my claiming.

I'm defining my role as a 'Roleblock-Immune Townie'

I have no active abilities and, as such, went nowhere last night. I got no narrative PM of any kind from Nat.

However, I have reason to believe that:

1) Abilities can be assigned (otherwise what the fuck does our passive do?)
2) Mafia has a roleblocker.

This is somewhat similar to what Anatole said about a specific ability than cannot be roleblocked but by divine intervention, which is kinda weird considering what we can do. My role PM does not mention items at all.

Maybe he's got magic and shit, but we've got Balls of Steel.

-b

[OkaPoka]

or this game may or may not be bastard and your role is essentially a vanilla townie

[Cutty Shark]

could be; it's nat

-b