Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't think this game is going to get anywhere without more clarity. We need more information from someone, whether it's you or F-16 or whatever.

[Anatole Kuragin]

F-16 has been notably absent since the weird night interaction stuff came to light.

[fferyllt]

Here, I'll even relent here. for the moment:

UNVOTE:

I'll listen to what you have to say. I won't even respond tonight as I'm going to bed, so just stream of consciousness at me:

A couple rules:

1) I don't want to hear anything that presupposes I'm scum or you trying to confbias random things I've done into that conclusion. I'm not, so you're just wasting your time arguing from that POV.
2) That your night action exists doesn't imply you're town, so I'm not really interested in that angle either.

What I want to see is reads on other people re: the flip last night.
I don't care if your reads are popular or not, I care if you have good points to make.

So this is my one attempt to meet you halfway and see if we are indeed heading down the road traveled in X-men.

-b

My reads on the flip are to get the town scumhunting and reset based on the scumhunting somewhat but you are making that hard to do with your info hunting. Basically I said as much and you just don't stop.

FFery and Fonz look town today.

AK's last post was bad but I think he's tiwn still.


What do you think of FourTrouble's wagon. I think there is more info to be gained there.

Then again, with my paranoia, FT could have been a vig kill. Scum kill ika. Frame me with block.

how the hell do I look town today?

[Nashville Dreams]

I don't think this game is going to get anywhere without more clarity. We need more information from someone, whether it's you or F-16 or whatever.

F16 claims drugged and cannot remeber.

There are plenty of votes to be analyzed and positions to take which is what I am encouraging.

VOTE: AK

Start scumhunting rather thanattempting to confirm yourself.

[Nashville Dreams]

Here, I'll even relent here. for the moment:

UNVOTE:

I'll listen to what you have to say. I won't even respond tonight as I'm going to bed, so just stream of consciousness at me:

A couple rules:

1) I don't want to hear anything that presupposes I'm scum or you trying to confbias random things I've done into that conclusion. I'm not, so you're just wasting your time arguing from that POV.
2) That your night action exists doesn't imply you're town, so I'm not really interested in that angle either.

What I want to see is reads on other people re: the flip last night.
I don't care if your reads are popular or not, I care if you have good points to make.

So this is my one attempt to meet you halfway and see if we are indeed heading down the road traveled in X-men.

-b

My reads on the flip are to get the town scumhunting and reset based on the scumhunting somewhat but you are making that hard to do with your info hunting. Basically I said as much and you just don't stop.

FFery and Fonz look town today.

AK's last post was bad but I think he's tiwn still.


What do you think of FourTrouble's wagon. I think there is more info to be gained there.

Then again, with my paranoia, FT could have been a vig kill. Scum kill ika. Frame me with block.

how the hell do I look town today?

You look town because of your desire to scumhunt. You wanted to find the busser on HB. While I am not sure there is one, that's protown if you feel there is. That got lost in the noise. You have attempted to reach out and work with people on scumhunting.

You are proceeding through a step by step progression I can see rather than pushing an agenda.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't think this game is going to get anywhere without more clarity. We need more information from someone, whether it's you or F-16 or whatever.

F16 claims drugged and cannot remeber.

There are plenty of votes to be analyzed and positions to take which is what I am encouraging.

VOTE: AK

Start scumhunting rather thanattempting to confirm yourself.

Wow, fuck off dude. I made a case and you guys ignored it, so I started trying to help figure out the mystery of this setup. Every time me and Cutty may be able to figure something out you just stonewall us and say it's anti-town to discuss.

I True Detective'd the shit out of Lissa and you're saying I'm not scumhunting. Just fuck off, unvote and say you need to "reset" so we'll forget about it again.

[Anatole Kuragin]

You've voted me, CS, and Csareo in a row. Guess how many of them are scum? Probably none. Ace scumhunting.

[fferyllt]

I didn't say that though. I've been in limbo.

I think you have me confused with someone. maybe font.

[fferyllt]

font=fonz

[Cutty Shark]

I True Detective'd the shit out of Lissa and you're saying I'm not scumhunting. Just fuck off, unvote and say you need to "reset" so we'll forget about it again.

I'm willing to at least scrutinize Lissa a little more - her entire ISO is basically

1) agreeing with things
2) promises for rereads/isos

-b

[Nashville Dreams]

You know what I really hate about this us that this IS A TOWN V TOWN between Bork and us.

I also really hate how people are vote parked on us and I feel like they are deliberately staying out of this argument. Yes I'm looking at you oka and Cephrawr.

I know maras on VLA, but Cephrawr isn't...?

I also hate not being able to convince my hydra partner that Bork hydra is town. I'm trying because I wanted to do something, but yes she's convinced you are scum. What this looks like this day is going to just revolve around us and we will be lynched. That's how I know this day will happen. There's very little restistance to our wagon. There's people sidelining themselves an there's people who haven't even commented on the matter.

What I don't get is if people think scum are on the HB wagon why don't you actually look on the fucking wagon rather than us. We weren't on the wagon because i made a mistake about town reading the slot.

Also bork: if you keep wanting to jam the whole well HB figured out who mala was why couldn't you be scum with HB and talked to her about it. I mean you had me pinged pretty early on right? I would go out of my way to avoid a scum slip in the thread if I was scum about my mains. Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. I'm not even kidding right now.

~R

[Nashville Dreams]

Gawd damn it I did it again.

Okay anything with R or M is mala lolol

[Cutty Shark]

Also bork: if you keep wanting to jam the whole well HB figured out who mala was why couldn't you be scum with HB and talked to her about it. I mean you had me pinged pretty early on right? I would go out of my way to avoid a scum slip in the thread if I was scum about my mains. Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. I'm not even kidding right now.

I don't need to consider hypotheticals where I am scum, but yes, it could've have been a partner who identified you.

Anyway, Mala, I am getting little niggles of your-slot-town even if skrew isn't.

I'm trying to figure out what to do about that - I really don't want this to be another 188 even if I righted that ship (kinda) as I died.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Titus I will respond to your inquiry about FT wagon a little later, gotta actually be productive today =/

-b

[Cutty Shark]

I would go out of my way to avoid a scum slip in the thread if I was scum about my mains. Your argument is bad and you should feel bad. I'm not even kidding right now.

Except you didn't slip. You tried to crumb to Tammy who you were (and it seemed like you were trying to manipulate her to me but what do I know). Your counterargument doesn't address the argument and is bad.
Like how the hell could HB confidently say you didn't resemble your scum meta if she'd played a grand total of two games with you (and she replaced out of both too) and never seen you as town?

[Natirasha]

Vote Count 2.3

It had been so long, some people had fallen asleep.

Nashville Dreams(2):

OkaPoka, Baboon Pride

Cutty Shark(0):

5-Off(0):

AnatoleKuragin(2):

TheFonz, Nashville Dreams

The Fonz(0):

gossamer wings(0):

Baboon Pride(0):

fferyllt(0):

OkaPoka(0):

Lissa(0):

Not Voting(6):

5-Off, AnatoleKuragin, gossamer wings, fferyllt, Lissa, Cutty Shark

With ten alive, it is six to lynch.
Prodding Baboon Pride
Replacing 5-Off

(expired on 2014-09-30 16:00:00)

[Baboon Pride]

Am here.

UNVOTE:

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I'm busy irl this week but I'll try and catch up with what I've missed and offer my thoughts on Friday. If there is anything anyone wants to discuss now, I'm here.

[The Fonz]

Before I forget, I expect to have no access at all Thursday-saturday, then will have less time for mafia because college restarts.

[Baboon Pride]

VOTE: nashville

D:<

-Ceph is going to try to make a meaningful post

[OkaPoka]

I would prefer a nashville lynch.

[Baboon Pride]

Re: massclaim: I don't really care.

Re: items: we don't have one.

Re: Amished tell: that just happened. I have lynched for this twice ever. The first time, I objected to such a dumb tell being used to quicklynch someone. They were scum. The second time, I had decided the tell was good. It wasn't. In conclusion, meh.

Re: how useless I am: there are a number of factors going on here, including me being demoralized because FT flipped town, and me signing up for too many games and slacking on the one in which I had a partner because I'm a bad person. I'm slightly less overcommitted now than I was before, and I'm not planning to go super in depth on what I've already missed (guys, this thread is too dense, please help me out here), but plan to be attentive henceforth.

Baboon and Shark fall into the 'I was reading them town yesterday, and I haven't wavered that much' camp. Baboon's #1710 and #1920 are inconsistent - the former lists me as 'maybe scum' and the latter says they're 'very against' lynching me - but I guess this is going to be explained away as hydra dissonance. Sigh.

This is the first thing you've said this game that has pinged me. I hate it when players complain about this.

I still think AK is probably scum, but I haven't iso'd the dead scum yet. I wish the dead scum wasn't a lurker.

tying town to partners is something scum often do.

Associative hunting is a good tactic. Please allow it to be used.

I hadn't thought of this before, but I'm actually wondering if scum have fakeclaims in this setup (I have no idea whether or not it would have occurred to Nat to do that)

but if they do, it kinda makes the Lissa neighborhood argument way weaker

-b

This sounds insanely fake.

No, it doesn't

VOTE: Cutty Scum

A bastard mechanic necessitates fakeclaims. The mod cannot depend on town outing the bastard mechanic.


AK there is nothing inside knowledge there.

what the fuck is this.

-Ceph

[Baboon Pride]

I also have had a weird feeling about nashville just due to loose threads so I was willing to vote her too - if she had been lynched and come up scum it would have more or less telegraphed the alignments of several slots.

3) Yes. Most importantly, I started to townread Lissa when she finally posted her reads, but after the lynch/flip of Honey I felt that her vote on Honey was bussing

There are two things I want you to unpack here, bonus points if you can find both

-Ceph

[Baboon Pride]

Summary of page 89: The number of fucks I give about this Cutty/Fonz argument, despite the fact I'm trying to pay attention and do have some energy, is zero.

-Ceph

[Baboon Pride]

I think Nashville needs to make up their minds and stop diagreeing with each other, since I keep pinigng scum on them.

I will treat hydraes as normal players so if you guys keep flipflopping i will act like it is scum since I don't want to go figuring out which head is posting and see a difference between them.

Is cutty and nash the only hyrda?

0/10