FitzOtter I (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

with=wish

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh and if dgb thought her "power" was to stop juls, why is juls not scum in her view.

And why do you think I'm scum with Juls then? LOL you make no sense as usual.

[farside22]

What points made by players made a case valid. That's 4 times I've asked you that by the way.

If this is what you are saying I haven't responded to then I know why. I have NO idea what you are asking here.

Why do you keep saying that I quick lynched him? I voted him for threatening to self-hammer. I have voted other people who have self voted before. See Faster Than Light Mafia where I did the same thing. I was town. Last I checked there were 5 other people on that wagon beside me and ika. I've already said this but since you can't be bothered to actually read my words you haven't seen it.

Also claiming I'm not making a case on someone is a lie as well. I have been explaining why I think you are scum. I explained why I felt HI was scummy on day one. I explained why I voted ika and the rest of this game has been monopolized by people suspecting me. How often do you see the prime suspect getting the opportunity to do much more than respond to suspicion? I'm explaining why I am town and responding to people as they make comments and saying why I think they are scum/town. It's not very easy to write a long winded case on someone when everyone suspects you. It's called having to be on the defensive rather than the offensive. It's not a position I find myself in very often but I am trying to improve my game for when I am. So thanks for giving me the opportunity.

So you didn't read the case presented against me.
That is exactly how your coming across.
The I did this because people found farside suspect, but did who cares what the case was.
Where is the town mentality there. Again that leaves you not coppable.
Oh and the idc attitude and let people lynch me was words ika used you stAted as anti town.

Oh and if dgb thought her "power" was to stop juls, why is juls not scum in her view.

And why do you think I'm scum with Juls then? LOL you make no sense as usual.

You are doing nothing that says town.


But let's ask others.

Konowa, t-bone= does it make sense for dbg to not use her "role"if she thinks HI is town but wants to see me hang?

[Juls]

im fine with my lynch, as long as i get self hammer.

...
2 more votes! 2 more votes!

either vote me or fuck off im self hammering at moments notice

i should l-1 myself instead so i can get someone to hammer me....

thats what i will do instead.

sooooooooo:

1 MORE VOTE 1 MORE VOTE 1 MORE VOTE

VOTE: ika

HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER!!!!!!!!!

DOOOOO ITTTT COME ON

SOMEONE HAMMER ME

HAMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and the idc attitude and let people lynch me was words ika used you stAted as anti town.

He did a little more than say "let people lynch me"

[Juls]

So you didn't read the case presented against me.
That is exactly how your coming across.

What are you reading? Do you just have this little internal conversation going with yourself that you just spew onto the pages of this game? Because nothing you say here relates to anything I said in my post.

[farside22]

Actually I added you because you got the second most attention yesterday. One for me, one for the town. My role said you wouldn't know you are lovers so I will ask Zor about that.

What points made by players made a case valid. That's 4 times I've asked you that by the way.

If this is what you are saying I haven't responded to then I know why. I have NO idea what you are asking here.

Why do you keep saying that I quick lynched him? I voted him for threatening to self-hammer. I have voted other people who have self voted before. See Faster Than Light Mafia where I did the same thing. I was town. Last I checked there were 5 other people on that wagon beside me and ika. I've already said this but since you can't be bothered to actually read my words you haven't seen it.

Also claiming I'm not making a case on someone is a lie as well. I have been explaining why I think you are scum. I explained why I felt HI was scummy on day one. I explained why I voted ika and the rest of this game has been monopolized by people suspecting me. How often do you see the prime suspect getting the opportunity to do much more than respond to suspicion? I'm explaining why I am town and responding to people as they make comments and saying why I think they are scum/town. It's not very easy to write a long winded case on someone when everyone suspects you. It's called having to be on the defensive rather than the offensive. It's not a position I find myself in very often but I am trying to improve my game for when I am. So thanks for giving me the opportunity.

[farside22]

Basically finds player with the most attention and states no opinion why the case is valid or scum worthy.
That's juls in a nutshell

[DrippingGoofball]

He did a little more than say "let people lynch me"

That was really townie, he shouldn't have been lynched.

[Juls]

And all I did was put him at L-1. He made the choice to self-hammer.

[DrippingGoofball]

*** ika ( 7 ) *** The Bulge Konowa Hostile Intent Aegor Untrod Tripod Juls ika ( 7 ) *** The Bulge Konowa Hostile Intent Aegor

Untrod Tripod Juls ika

One of UT & Juls is scum.

[farside22]

Oh and because juls clearly isn't reading my post.
My vote on her had nothing to do with her claim, but her shitty reasoning of her targets.

[DrippingGoofball]

juls clearly isn't reading my post.

I can't fault her for that, I don't read your posts.

[farside22]

And all I did was put him at L-1. He made the choice to self-hammer.

Since he said he would.
Really had he not self hammered, then what.
Walk me done the lane of juls thought process.
Also with faster then lightening the player that was anti town, what alignment did they flip?

[T-Bone]

I was busy, I will catch up.

[Juls]

And all I did was put him at L-1. He made the choice to self-hammer.

Since he said he would.
Really had he not self hammered, then what.
Walk me done the lane of juls thought process.
Also with faster then lightening the player that was anti town, what alignment did they flip?

I'm not a person who cares if a jester wins as long as the game continues. Part of me thought he was a jester. Part of me thought he was scum grandstanding to look like pissed-off town. Not once did I think he was town being an idiot but I forgot that this is what mafiascum has turned into.

The anti-town player ended up being town in FTL but I know you already know that which makes me almost 100% sure you are scum now trying to trap me. His alignment is irrelevant because anti-town play is anti-town play. I already suspected ika so there is no reason for me not to vote a player that I already suspected and who was grandstanding that he would self vote. I stand by my vote, I would do it again right now if someone else started threatening to self vote.

[Juls]

I still want to know if farside and HI are utilizing their neighborhood and if they have any thoughts on the other.

This thread also needs more ABR.

[zoraster]

Day 1

farside22 ( 1 )

Juls

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(L - 6 )

hiplop ( 1 )

Aegor

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(L - 6 )

Juls ( 4 )

farside22

Hostile Intent

Untrod Tripod

hiplop

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(L - 3 )

Konowa ( 1 )

Albert B. Rampage

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(L - 6 )

Not Voting ( 5 )

AurorusVox The Bulge T-Bone DrippingGoofball Konowa

Total Votes ( 12 )

Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]

Deadline: Oct. 6th at 20:00 EDT

[farside22]

And all I did was put him at L-1. He made the choice to self-hammer.

Since he said he would.
Really had he not self hammered, then what.
Walk me done the lane of juls thought process.
Also with faster then lightening the player that was anti town, what alignment did they flip?

I'm not a person who cares if a jester wins as long as the game continues. Part of me thought he was a jester. Part of me thought he was scum grandstanding to look like pissed-off town. Not once did I think he was town being an idiot but I forgot that this is what mafiascum has turned into.

The anti-town player ended up being town in FTL but I know you already know that which makes me almost 100% sure you are scum now trying to trap me. His alignment is irrelevant because anti-town play is anti-town play. I already suspected ika so there is no reason for me not to vote a player that I already suspected and who was grandstanding that he would self vote. I stand by my vote, I would do it again right now if someone else started threatening to self vote.

A jester wins by being lynched.
Why would you help a jester win? Did you ask the mod if the game would continue if there was a jester.

As for the second. Why would someone anti -town in a game make you think ika is not scum in this game? Here is what you are not explaining at all. What is the scum motivation, if a player does something in one game, why think scum for another game?



Now let's discuss you "vig comment and reasoning.
I submit event mafia where juls showed her views and did not go with the majority and also in the game had cases, reasoning, disagreeing with cases.
This is one of many game juls behaves this way, it is also why I've asked juls her view on the points against me that she has refused to acknowledge or respond to on why she believes the majority, when she has disagreed with others before.

[Juls]

I don't care if a jester wins. I have faith in zoraster as a mod not to end a game on a jester win..

As for self-voting. I just answered that so why are you asking again? Because you are trying to fabricate a case. By your definition, someone can now threaten to self vote or self vote and I will always automatically read them as town because one town person did it. That's just stupid.

You also keep saying I refuse to acknowledge or answer you yet that's all I have been doing. I asked you to tell me what I haven't responded to and you basically said several words in a row that weren't coherent. I said I didn't know what you were asking and you say I refuse to answer you. A logical person would reword/rephrase the question so that it makes sense. When you do that, I will respond. You, on the other hand, have outright refused to answer any questions I have asked you about your neighborhood with HI. By your own definition, you are scum.

[farside22]

I still want to know if farside and HI are utilizing their neighborhood and if they have any thoughts on the other.

This thread also needs more ABR.

Why don't you explain why you think this response tells you anything alignment indicative?
You've stated I'm scum and HI is scum, why does that question have value if your mind is they are both scum?

I'm still unclear why you stated this:

And I have explained why I think HI is scum. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I want you or HI lynched as I think one or both will be scum. If mafia doesn't kill one in the night you can guarantee 1 or more are scum. Play it how you choose. I can't neighborize again until night 3 so if you want to lynch me I am fine with that. I just wanted to be able to give some amount of information. My job is done as far as I can see.

If all you thought was this:

Actually I added you because you got the second most attention yesterday. One for me, one for the town. My role said you wouldn't know you are lovers so I will ask Zor about that.

And this:

I made farside and HI lovers. I decided to use my power as a double vig. They don't know they are lovers however.
.

[farside22]

I don't care if a jester wins. I have faith in zoraster as a mod not to end a game on a jester win..

As for self-voting. I just answered that so why are you asking again? Because you are trying to fabricate a case. By your definition, someone can now threaten to self vote or self vote and I will always automatically read them as town because one town person did it. That's just stupid.

You also keep saying I refuse to acknowledge or answer you yet that's all I have been doing. I asked you to tell me what I haven't responded to and you basically said several words in a row that weren't coherent. I said I didn't know what you were asking and you say I refuse to answer you. A logical person would reword/rephrase the question so that it makes sense. When you do that, I will respond. You, on the other hand, have outright refused to answer any questions I have asked you about your neighborhood with HI. By your own definition, you are scum.

So you will continue to do something anti-town to people who flipped town? In trying to understand the town motivation for that.

[farside22]

I don't care if a jester wins. I have faith in zoraster as a mod not to end a game on a jester win..

As for self-voting. I just answered that so why are you asking again? Because you are trying to fabricate a case. By your definition, someone can now threaten to self vote or self vote and I will always automatically read them as town because one town person did it. That's just stupid.

You also keep saying I refuse to acknowledge or answer you yet that's all I have been doing. I asked you to tell me what I haven't responded to and you basically said several words in a row that weren't coherent. I said I didn't know what you were asking and you say I refuse to answer you. A logical person would reword/rephrase the question so that it makes sense. When you do that, I will respond. You, on the other hand, have outright refused to answer any questions I have asked you about your neighborhood with HI. By your own definition, you are scum.

You asked once and I made it clear many post ago what you are not doing and what you have done.
Many post.

[Juls]

Nothing you say is clear. I still have no idea what you want me to answer. Can someone translate farside for me?

[Juls]

Why don't you explain why you think this response tells you anything alignment indicative?
You've stated I'm scum and HI is scum, why does that question have value if your mind is they are both scum?

You've been around way too long to ask a question like this. Mafia isn't about certainty. I am reading you as scum but there is a chance I am wrong. I am reading HI as scum (or I was day one, haven't got jack shit out of him today) but I may be wrong. The information isn't just for me. As town, both of you should be willing to provide your read on the other.

[farside22]

Someone can ask juls, how this post is unclear

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p6242559

Then ask if she could explain the so called scum read she had pre-argument, that was based on what she read day 1 that made her think the player with the second most attention is scum.

Especially Since she continues to use the, I'm not making a case and don't have a case but think farside is scum, comments in the game.