FitzOtter I (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

What can I say? My role was changed. I'm likely dead by tomorrow.

Are you talking about the loverization or something else?

[Hostile Intent]

The loverization.

If you could help me help you, that'd be great.

[AurorusVox]

Bulge sounds sincere. Aegor sounds...

I'd like to see Aegor commenting on something else if s/he is so disaffected. Stir up some other discussion. Give a case on hiplop for example - make a viable alternative wagon or help generate stuff for later. I'd especially be interested in this as I have very little read on hiplop.

That said, I'm with the Bulge here in that I think for all the space it has taken up today, I'd like to see one of juls/farside flipped and juls is by far my preference. I'm not convinced by her stance of null/scum read and her case/no case is no better.

HI's frustration seems genuine. I wouldn't mind seeing the lovers depaired. It would be interesting to see what happens going into night but I think there's too much potential for WIFOM there (another reason I find juls suspicious).

Vote: juls

[Juls]

So when I flip town, are you guys lynching farside? What are you learning from my town flip exactly?

[farside22]

So when I flip town, are you guys lynching farside? What are you learning from my town flip exactly?

What did you learn from ika's flip? He had you and Konowa as scum is there any reason you or anyone shouldn't consider a dead townie?
Would you think when I flip town, people should listen to me? Obviously you didn't care about what a dead townie thought so why do you ask?


Oh and for fun.

Mod: if you had a jester in the game, would they win and the town lose like the wiki has or would the game continue.

[farside22]

Also curious juls why you think people would listen to a player that doesn't make a case.
You called me a child, but all I've asked is for a reason, which you fail to give.
How is that going to convince anyone?

[Juls]

I have said why I think you are scum. You keep spouting lies that I haven't. But I'm done arguing with you. I'm bored of it and so is everyone else.

[farside22]

I have said why I think you are scum. You keep spouting lies that I haven't. But I'm done arguing with you. I'm bored of it and so is everyone else.

I didn't say you made a case.
That's the whole point .

[Untrod Tripod]

So when I flip town, are you guys lynching farside? What are you learning from my town flip exactly?

no, but I hope you reflect on how poorly you used your ability

[farside22]

The other reasons I mentioned is how she is reacting to my claim and how she is refusing to answer my questions. I didn't go back and check to confirm the order in which I have had these suspicions so don't even start saying the chicken before the egg crap. My 3 reasons for thinking farside is acting like scum are:
1) her over-the-top reactions to me loverizing her
2) her misrepresenting the reason I chose her
3) her unwillingness to answer direct questions from me because she thinks I am scum.

I still would like people who are voting me to answer my questions. Once you lynch me you will know that saying "partner" wasn't a slip so answer the questions now while I am alive and can give my opinion of your answers.

I mean if this is what you call a case I responded to it.
1)

The only questioned you asked me was my thought on HI. If there was other questions let me know.
If you read the game I responded to that day 1.
Oh and what I'm doing is called making a case on a player I think is scum. I understand it is a novel concept.
Wait no it is something I see you do in other games but not here.

2) is here http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6238848
3) I've done and you proved not to give a shit about the response.

[farside22]

Oh and this was my first reactions to juls claim, I'd love the "over-the-top" reaction comment that does not include me asking for her opinion.

I neighborized farside and Hostile Intent. Anyone want to guess what the other part of my role is?

No.
why?

Are you going to confirm?

I want to know why you target myself and HI.

That "neighborizor" ability is not cut and dry.

Then I want you to explain why you jumped on a quick bw after bitching about wagons.

I made farside and HI lovers. I decided to use my power as a double vig. They don't know they are lovers however.

If you lynch me, know that the neighbors/lovers will expire at the end of night 2. I didn't neighborize abr/DGB because I think they are town.

VOTE: HOstile

P-edit: because ika was threatening to self hammer which is antitown.

Anti-townis not scummy.

Well juls lied. We know we lovers.
So basically you put 2 players together one as omgus as you can get and for reasons you don't explain still think HI is scum.

Vote confirmed.

[T-Bone]

I'm still trying to get my head back in the game.

Why did you claim they wouldn't know they are lovers?

I really don't like the series of events that have gone on this day phase. From a town point of view, why does linking Farside and HI make sense? Juls, why did that make sense to you? What were you trying to accomplish?

[DrippingGoofball]

So when I flip town, are you guys lynching farside? What are you learning from my town flip exactly?

OK this thing is town.

VOTE: farside

[DrippingGoofball]

The loverization.

If you could help me help you, that'd be great.

Who is scum?

[Hostile Intent]

One of juls/farside is for sure scum imo their interactions aren't TvT.

BUT FOR SRS CAN WE NOT LYNCH FARSIDE TODAY? KTHX.

[farside22]

I'm still trying to get my head back in the game.

Why did you claim they wouldn't know they are lovers?

I really don't like the series of events that have gone on this day phase. From a town point of view, why does linking Farside and HI make sense? Juls, why did that make sense to you? What were you trying to accomplish?

She didn't read the game. Because her reasons she stated make no sense if she did read day 1 at all.

[Juls]

So when I flip town, are you guys lynching farside? What are you learning from my town flip exactly?

no, but I hope you reflect on how poorly you used your ability

I disagree. There are many ways I could play it. This is the one I chose and I think it was a good choice. If HI and/or farside are scum I hope you reflect on how closed minded you are.

[Juls]

@farside - I never said you didn't respond. You are over the top because you are typing about 10,000 words peer page of crap.

[Juls]

One of juls/farside is for sure scum imo their interactions aren't TvT.

BUT FOR SRS CAN WE NOT LYNCH FARSIDE TODAY? KTHX.

What have you learned about farside via your neighborhood?

[farside22]

And I have explained why I think HI is scum. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I want you or HI lynched as I think one or both will be scum. If mafia doesn't kill one in the night you can guarantee 1 or more are scum. Play it how you choose. I can't neighborize again until night 3 so if you want to lynch me I am fine with that. I just wanted to be able to give some amount of information. My job is done as far as I can see.

I am wanting to lynch 2 people in one shot. I don't believe I am trying to hide that.

In short. Thinks one or both is scum. Her reason for thinking this is a mystery I solved.
She considered it a trade so she can get HI lynched, but the wagon on me disapated before ika stated.
And she wants to lynch two people, claims questions she asking would make a difference and she has no response to it or care whether HI verifies are answer the question she thought was sooooooo important.

Dgb: why are you lynching a player you claimed a town read on, if you can prevent that person from being tied to me?

I notice dgb continues to ignore this question.

@farside - I never said you didn't respond. You are over the top because you are typing about 10,000 words peer page of crap.

That is about you being scum not about your claim, like you misrepresented and is not scummy.

[Untrod Tripod]

So when I flip town, are you guys lynching farside? What are you learning from my town flip exactly?

no, but I hope you reflect on how poorly you used your ability

I disagree. There are many ways I could play it. This is the one I chose and I think it was a good choice. If HI and/or farside are scum I hope you reflect on how closed minded you are.

oh, one of them very well could be. I never declared them to both be for-sure town.

and I didn't figure you'd actually learn anything. incompetent people very rarely recognize their own incompetence. I had hope though.

[Juls]

And arrogant people always think they are right.

[Untrod Tripod]

yeah making two players of unknown alignments lovers is dumb 95% of the time

[Juls]

yeah making two players of unknown alignments lovers is dumb 95% of the time

What is your intention with these statements exactly? You win. You're the king of insults. Well done. Can we play mafia now?

[Juls]

So when I flip town, are you guys lynching farside? What are you learning from my town flip exactly?

no, but I hope you reflect on how poorly you used your ability

Also, this post is saying I know you are town but I am going to punish you for making a choice I disagree with. Please remember this after I'm lynched.