The Wire Season 1 Mafia: Baltimore Police and Omar Victory!
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Spoiler: Dr Pants PM
Spoiler: Salamence20
Spoiler: Antihero
Spoiler: ReallySexyDudes
Spoiler: ActionDan
Spoiler: PeregrineV
Spoiler: Messiah Complex
Spoiler: mastin2
Spoiler: BBmolla
Spoiler: BlueBloodedToffee/Titus
Spoiler: Muki/Anatole Kuragin
Spoiler: Justin Playfair/vezokpiraka
Spoiler: TheGottemer/POWERFUL TOWNIE
Spoiler: Jackal711/TheAdrienC
Spoiler: Scum Team
Spoiler: Slandaar aka the all powerful Omar Little
Hope I did these right!"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Night 1 Actions
BooKitty/zMuffinMan ninja's Peregrine V
Dr. Pants kills Peregrine V
Slandaar stakeout BBmolla (No Result)
Justin Playfair/vezokpiraka protects Messiah Complex
Jackal 711/TheAdrienC watches Muki/Anatole Kuragin (No Result)
Night 2 Actions
Dr Pants vigs Bookitty/zMuffinMan, redirected to mastin2 (Unsuccessful)
Xisiqomelir Motivates Sharpest
Sharpest redirects Dr. Pants to mastin2
Sharpest redirects ActionDan to ReallySexyGuys
vezokpiraka docs mastin 2 (Successful)
Slandaar stakeout jackal711 (no result)
mastin2 tracks antihero
Xisiqomelir kills antihero
That was a fun night to watch happen
Night 3
Slandaar stakeout mastin2 (no result)
Sharpest redirects Dr Pants to RSG
TheAdrienC watches Dr Pants (sees sharpest visit)
Xisiqomelir kills POWERFUL TOWNIE
Night 4
Slandaar Commutes
mastin2 tracks ActionDan
zMuffinMan kills RSG (no ninja use)
Night 5
Slandaar stakeout Anatole (success)
TheAdrienC watches mastin2
Xisiqomelir jailkeeps TheAdrienC
zMuffinMan kills Dr Pants (no ninja use--that was risky)
Day 6
Slandaar daykills Anatole Kuragin, wins, and leaves the game
Night 6
mastin2 tracks MessiahComplex
zMuffinMan ninja's mastin2
I will post my thoughts later tonight. Thanks to all of you for being patient with me, and another thanks to all the people who replaced in to keep the game moving!"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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TY Toasto, I thoroughly enjoyed myself here.
Only winners get haters, yo!
Insta-sigged.
On a serious note, since I still have about 30 minutes of scumday left in my TZ, here's what went down in Wire S1 Mafia (all opinions of course entirely my own)
1) I love my scumteam- Every member of scumteam played it to the hilt this game. DGB took a crappy situation, and played it off in a perfectly legit fashion (and I still deserve to QT with her, and it will happen). When I say SKOT rocks it BAM-style, it was actually praise for his homogeneity. Slandaar and Sala and I had all just finished the Mutiny Mafia mini, and the multiple parallels (absurd trollhammer, ee cummings-style oneliners, quantum troll logic) were ample to fakecall him town and carry on with it. I don't think he would have been killed sooner than 2 days later if he hadn't been caught out on the Watch. Boo caught a lot of heat, but we maintained so many viably scummy wagons D1 and D2 that Town's vote was split just enough to let her slide by.
And muffin gets a para on his own because he really pulled it out this game with his manipulation of molla and mastin. You can read his (genuine) guilt in our QT about all the stops he pulled out to get us this win. I have nothing but praise and would happily scum up with him again.
2) Flavour ruled the day- Toasty did an incredible job with the role assignment and flavour matchups this game. A big part of why my claim carried me through literal days of zero content (see Titus lynch) is that the name, which was mod-provided, worked so well with the role I cooked up. Brianna really did help out the "street widow" Barksdales, and then her money really did run out after Avon went down, so she had to stop. You can see that everyone who was familiar with the flavour bought into it at least a little bit:
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Whereas people who hadn't seen much of the Wire yet thought of it in terms of pure Mafia theory and were dumbfounded by how I sailed past:
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3)Large Theme Law - aka "Town on Town slapfights"- We all know how this part works. Once you go over 13 players sticking closely to your good initial instinctual reads (mastin called all of scumteam but DGB D2) becomes really hard when fellow town starts to annoy you, the game swells to pages upon pages of nonsensical hyperdefensive hysteria, and your motivation to play just evaporates.
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I honestly thought town played really well this game, especially Pants and Mastin, my teasing in our QT aside. A big part of the game is exploiting aspects of a player's personality that you've grown accustomed to, and I've wall-v-walled mastin in 4 games now. Dunno if we'll ever end up on the same alignment, but I hope so! It should be fun.
gg everyone
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↑ TheAdrienC wrote:I made way too many mistakes in this game, especially since I was suspicious of two scums right when I came into the game and left those instincts high and dry.
FWIW aside from the LyLo quickvote (always a bad idea), I thought you were pretty decent.
I was quite insistent with muffin that you should have been yesterday's NK, but he really wanted to make it mastin.- zMuffinMan
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My Thoughts
This game opened with a lot of interesting plays. There were two gambits straight away, and even though they both flopped (no thanks to me). I find Salamance's interesting, because I believe he did think he was town originally, but decided to play it off as intentional. Also, was the switching of colors really that confusing. Ya'all are supposed to read your PM's, not go off of color cue's! Additionally, Salamance did seem to suspect BooKitty from the gambit reaction, and made people promise him that BooKitty would get lynched.
But that promise was never kept, and became a major theme in the game. Note that zMuffinMan was a counter-wagon for nearly every lynch that took place, but no one ever really saw that suspicious. Town lynch after town lynch, zMuffinMan made it closer and closer to the end. I thought his luck would end by day 5 at the most. So I'm trying to think of why exactly it happened--because despite Muffin playing a great game, someone in his position surviving to endgame is really rare. I think there were a few reasons for this:
1) The "it's too obvious" suspicion. zMuffinMan (at least viewing from the outside) was VERY scummy. He was emotionally manipulative, but made it work for him because he did a great job of playing off of other people (namely, BBmolla and mastin2). Oftentimes when the town fails to catch scum, they doubt their original reads rather than look to the "second best" options the day beforehand. I think this doubt is natural, but it played a HUGE role in this game. It is sort of like hiding something in plain sight. No one suspects to have someone hiding on top of something--they all expect it to be disguised. In this way, zMuffinMan transparency worked like a charm.
2) The town defaulting to mastin2 for leadership. Now, this isn't meant to grill mastin2, as every town player did things that could have been avoided here. It seemed like everyone would just sheep what mastin2 said eventually rather than actively standing up against their opinons. This is bad in ANY town because argumentation does need to take place. And this game didn't have all that much. There was questioning and disagreement, sure, but no one really thought that "gee, maybe mastin2's reads/theory is incorrect. Maybe we should try something different." This is the reason why I hate process of elimination in mafia games. It almost never works, because scum can sneak into a group of "obvtownies" and control the game almost as soon as they gained this status. Xisiqomelir's great claim gave him this position, and even though people thought about going after him, they never really brought it to the forefront.
3) Believe it or not, I think lynching SKOT was probably the worst scum-lynch the town could have gotten. Between zMuffinMan's hard pushing and SKOT's overall relationships with other people in the game, town may have begun to overthink lynches after this point. xisiqomelir, zMuffinMan, SKOT as scum together never really made sense. No one ever really looked into how they associated with one another in the group. Now, if Muffin had gotten lynched in place of SKOT, then SKOT would likely still be lynched one or two days later because of his getting caught targetting Dr Pants. After this point, muffin gained a lot of towncred while xisiqomelir was able to slip even further UTR.
4) TRYING TO BREAK THE GAME. Okay, despite my many failures as a mod this game, I do think I made a decent setup. I wanted to make the game difficult for players who knew the show to connect the dots on what I may have done. So, I loaded the game with female characters and gave them power (one of the main criticism's of the Wire is a lack of good female heroes, with the exception of Griggs). I gave some people roles that may have been a stretch. I gave minor characters a role to play, rather than just make the game just about people who are in the spotlight. The scumteam, too, would be an unexpected group (seriously, even I wonder why I picked Rhonda and Herc--but I liked the idea). This one is probably the most minor of points, but I do think it played a role, ESPECIALLY in the lynch of vezokpiraka (which made 0 sense to me).
So Those are the main reasons I think scum won this game, apart from their skill. The team worked very well together despite how much pressure was on them early. I remember thinking that DGB was their only hope for a win after day1, and then I fucked that up but they made it work. Great game, everyone. I hope you enjoyed it and I will be sure to message all of you when I make season 2!"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Well near the end, yes. but town watcher wasn't your only read."A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Why why why does town almost always lynch me day 1 or when I am right?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
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oh i just saw that
2-shot town vig
vs
1-shot scum bp and full scum redirector?
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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