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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:45 pm

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So then why are we voting in the morning phase?
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:58 pm

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Thestatusquo wrote:So then why are we voting in the morning phase?
It's to serve as a hypothetical vote count for who we intend to vote for in the Evening Phase (aka the one we find scummiest). Our votes for other people really don't count until we get to the Evening Phase.

That said, I am going to
Vote: Let's get some coffee!
. Scums do have the ability to kill during this phase but they can only kill if the kill is submitted via PM before the Morning Phase ends. Given that voting Let's get some coffee gets us faster into the Evening Phase, this is our chance to prevent a scum kill before we get into the Evening Phase.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:00 pm

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We're suppised to be insane so...

VOTE: Town
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:03 pm

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I legitimately do not believe that Anatole could think either of the two posters in the scum QT sound like TSQ
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:08 pm

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Guys this kind of random play is stupid. If you could contribute to the discussion trying to figure out how the rules of this game function instead of doing pointless bullcrap that would be amazeballs.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:24 pm

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vote DRINK COFFEE
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:28 pm

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Titus and everyone else, I'd suggesting voting Let's Drink Some Coffee as soon as possible. If we can avoid a Night Kill on a townie, that would be really helpful.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:31 pm

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Not sure that is the best. I bet scum have a kill locked in case. I would rather investigate.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:38 pm

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I don't entirely understand how the coffee stuff works yet but I don't really want to go to coffee phase real fast. It looks like once coffee phase starts we only have 48 hours to get a lynch together. So actually organizing a lynch could be difficult.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:42 pm

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Even if a majority vote for coffee phase, the evening phase does not start until the 3 day mark. Scum have 3 full days, no matter what, to figure out who they want to kill.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:46 pm

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Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:Titus and everyone else, I'd suggesting voting Let's Drink Some Coffee as soon as possible. If we can avoid a Night Kill on a townie, that would be really helpful.


Vote:SSBF


That's just never going to happen. 3 day minimum. The only effect would be that WE would only get a very short period of time to discuss and make a lynch happen on day one. Did you not know this and if you didn't why did you try to explain the rules to me when you did not understand them yourself?
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:59 pm

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MattP wrote:VOTE: TSQ


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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:02 pm

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Thestatusquo wrote:
Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:Titus and everyone else, I'd suggesting voting Let's Drink Some Coffee as soon as possible. If we can avoid a Night Kill on a townie, that would be really helpful.


Vote:SSBF


That's just never going to happen. 3 day minimum. The only effect would be that WE would only get a very short period of time to discuss and make a lynch happen on day one. Did you not know this and if you didn't why did you try to explain the rules to me when you did not understand them yourself?
No I did not know this. As a matter of fact, I noticed I misread the Morning Phase part right before shaddowez pointed it out. I ended up confusing the "3 days minimum" part for "3 days maximum" part and thought that the optimal plan was to get everyone to vote Let's Get Some Coffee to avoid a night kill on a townie. Turns out it was a major misreading on my part.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:04 pm

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*"3 days maximum" for "3 days minimum" part

what what I intended to say
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:05 pm

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Actually, ignore that edit
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:15 pm

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So tell me, are you scum? What is optimum scum strategy given your new understanding of the rules? What is optimum town strategy? Who is your favorite pokemon? Can you tell me two things about the rule set we should be extra careful about?
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:25 pm

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:
MattP wrote:VOTE: TSQ


i am $100% a CIA analyst

TSQ is scum, but not for the reason you listed
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:41 pm

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MattP wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
MattP wrote:VOTE: TSQ


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TSQ is scum, but not for the reason you listed

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:18 pm

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Thestatusquo wrote:So tell me, are you scum? What is optimum scum strategy given your new understanding of the rules? What is optimum town strategy? Who is your favorite pokemon? Can you tell me two things about the rule set we should be extra careful about?
- No.
- The optimum scum strategy would be to vote to get some coffee as soon as they've found a mislynch they can pursue. Scums will want to end the day with the least amount of information possible and to do this without being suspected, they will likely be calling to get coffee when they feel they could get a mislynch going. Scums are not going to expect townies to agree that their mislynch of choice is the best lynch for the day.
- Town should not be pursuing a lynch until the town has come to a conclusion on who is the most likely scum. Town's best ally is information and we need to make sure we aren't cut off from more information that could be helpful towards us winning. To have the best chance of lynching scum, town should not get coffee until they are in agreement on who is the most likely scum.
- Squirtle is my favorite because he's a bad-ass Pokémon and I absolutely love 1st gen of Pokémon (only beaten by the 2nd gen). It's too bad he got cut from Smash 3DS & Wii U thought; really wanted him to return.
- One thing we should be extremely careful about is how the day and night phase works. I made a big mistake of confusing how the morning phase works, so all of us (especially myself) need to keep in mind that the Morning Phase is a minimum of three days, not a maximum of three day. The Morning phase lasts for at least three days even if we all vote to get coffee before then and the phase does not end until we vote for coffee. The Evening or the Coffee Phase lasts for forty eight hours which is where a lynch will happen and the Night Phase lasts for forty eight hours.

We also need to be careful about methods used for scum hunting. While screen capping when players logged in (for those who show it) and the posts in the "Search user's posts" section, I realized that I had concerns over what was acceptable to screen capped. I then PM'd shos over what was acceptable to screen capped and he answered it basically like his notice here. We need to pay special attention to this rule because the last thing we want to happen is to have a townie mod-killed because they accidentally posted on-going game information.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:34 pm

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1) Ok. Good to know.
2) Which player most fits this pattern?
3) Same question
4) Major town points
5) Good. I missed the whole open QT thing and found it when going back to look over what the hell you were talking about. Good looks, b.

Town, is it in our best interests to claim whether we have "show online" allowed on our profiles? I currently do not, but I'm willing to turn it on for this game. Everyone else should too. Maybe we should just lynch anyone who doesn't turn theirs on.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:00 pm

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^ Anyone who intentionally stalls this is scum
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:07 pm

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turned mine on
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:10 pm

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Super Smash Bros. Fan wrote:The optimum scum strategy would be to vote to get some coffee as soon as they've found a mislynch they can pursue. Scums will want to end the day with the least amount of information possible and to do this without being suspected, they will likely be calling to get coffee when they feel they could get a mislynch going. Scums are not going to expect townies to agree that their mislynch of choice is the best lynch for the day.


Even if scum were going to do this, don't you think spelling out "optimum scum strategy" is a bad idea?

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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:30 pm

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Thestatusquo wrote:1) Ok. Good to know.
2) Which player most fits this pattern?
3) Same question
4) Major town points
5) Good. I missed the whole open QT thing and found it when going back to look over what the hell you were talking about. Good looks, b.

Town, is it in our best interests to claim whether we have "show online" allowed on our profiles? I currently do not, but I'm willing to turn it on for this game. Everyone else should too. Maybe we should just lynch anyone who doesn't turn theirs on.
2) Untrod Tripod. His vote to get coffee might have been the result of being misguided (as like me, he also was incorrect in regards to how the morning phase work) but unlike others, he didn't question it, he didn't correct me on anything, he didn't even say anything other than a vote to get coffee. These don't give out good vibes. For now, I'll
unvote, Vote: Untrod Tripod
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3) I would say you because you've contributed the most to town so far.

Also, looking at the players I screen capped, I can confirm that shaddowez, LynchMePls, Guyett, Metal Sonic, and PeregrineV all had turned on when they logged in before the game began. I also turned mine on for the purpose of this game, but this was after you mentioned that we should turn our profile on.
shaddowez wrote:Even if scum were going to do this, don't you think spelling out "optimum scum strategy" is a bad idea?

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I'm pretty sure mine is on
I answered it because Thestatusquo asked me about it. I still believe that scums will try to use the opportunity to push for a lynch that hurts town the most during the Morning Phase, so I still wouldn't be surprised if they tried to convince town to go forward with a mislynch without a general consensus on who's the most likely to flip scum.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:03 pm

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If you look at QT post time stamps vs MS posts maybe one of the scum was stupid and had a similar post pattern
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