===Mini 1615: Locked in the Asylum=== GAME OVER

[MattP]

The only individual that strangely lines up with QT posting is Titus, who didn't post on MS after the role PMS were sent out other than one nighttime post around 2am EST and then a cluster at approx. 11:10am on October 1st, exactly around when Sicko from Moscow posted a bunch in the QT

[MattP]

For the record, I don't think that means anything really

[Metal Sonic]

Now that your telling everyone the way to catch scum via online timings, scum will try to avoid that. Great work guys.

[Metal Sonic]

Well, best starting in the game though, none of that RVS garbage

A+ logistics shos!

[MattP]

Now that your telling everyone the way to catch scum via online timings, scum will try to avoid that. Great work guys.

Scum clearly already know that, considering they haven't done it, and everyone was just told to make their online status visible. I didn't expect to strike gold

[shos]

@Shos: What happens if a majority of people don't vote to drink coffee?

12 days from the start of the day, AKA, 48 hours before deadline, the sun will set automatically. This means that if people don't get 7 votes of coffee today, coffee phase will start on its own, 48 hours before deadline. You will

always

have 48 hours to vote for a lynch.

A+ logistics shos!

[Guyett]

ego post

[Guyett]

Is it a hydra if I have multiple personalities?

[Konowa]

What's up guys and gals?

[Konowa]

I asked in my Bluetooth thread, with UT, about the whole coffee phase thingy so I'm sure he understands the Vote for Coffee thing. Not sure if I agree with SSBF's assessment of UT.

[Konowa]

@Shos: What happens if a majority of people don't vote to drink coffee?

12 days from the start of the day, AKA, 48 hours before deadline, the sun will set automatically. This means that if people don't get 7 votes of coffee today, --->coffee phase will start on its own, 48 hours before deadline.<---- You will

always

have 48 hours to vote for a lynch.

So there literally is no reason to Vote for coffee to accelerate to the time shortened lynch phase.

[Konowa]

@shos: Can we get a countdown for the Morning Phase?

[Konowa]

Which I don't know what does for my read on UT at all, but yeah.

[PeregrineV]

Spill Coffee On: Anatole Kuragin

He's very wily.

I'll come back to this later, probably.

[Thestatusquo]

The optimum scum strategy would be to vote to get some coffee as soon as they've found a mislynch they can pursue. Scums will want to end the day with the least amount of information possible and to do this without being suspected, they will likely be calling to get coffee when they feel they could get a mislynch going. Scums are not going to expect townies to agree that their mislynch of choice is the best lynch for the day.

Even if scum were going to do this, don't you think spelling out "optimum scum strategy" is a bad idea?

P-Edit:

I'm pretty sure mine is on

Really don't like this kind of hand-wringing. Reads to me like someone looking for something to attack without actually thinking about the game on a deeper level. Figuring out what scum strategy is most likely to be and then using that to determine who is most aligned with scum strategy in the way they're playing the game is like actual mafia 101.

I also don't really like the well poisoning here. "Even if this were true." is a vague attack on the points SSBF is bringing up without actually attacking them. I'm very suspicious of people who throw aspersions on other players ideas without contributing their own or at least explaining why those ideas are not correct.

Vote: Shaddowez

[Anatole Kuragin]

s

Some people just like coffee.

[Thestatusquo]

Hey guys,

I guess you haven't noticed, but we are no longer in the stage of lowered information colloquially known as RVS. Please start actually playing.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Hey guys,

TSQ doesn't like fun, please stop having fun.

[Anatole Kuragin]

The optimum scum strategy would be to vote to get some coffee as soon as they've found a mislynch they can pursue. Scums will want to end the day with the least amount of information possible and to do this without being suspected, they will likely be calling to get coffee when they feel they could get a mislynch going. Scums are not going to expect townies to agree that their mislynch of choice is the best lynch for the day.

Even if scum were going to do this, don't you think spelling out "optimum scum strategy" is a bad idea?

P-Edit:

I'm pretty sure mine is on

Really don't like this kind of hand-wringing. Reads to me like someone looking for something to attack without actually thinking about the game on a deeper level. Figuring out what scum strategy is most likely to be and then using that to determine who is most aligned with scum strategy in the way they're playing the game is like actual mafia 101.

I also don't really like the well poisoning here. "Even if this were true." is a vague attack on the points SSBF is bringing up without actually attacking them. I'm very suspicious of people who throw aspersions on other players ideas without contributing their own or at least explaining why those ideas are not correct.

Vote: Shaddowez

I actually agree with Shadowwez - this would have been a more effective tool if super smash had waited until people started voting or discussing it. It's going to be entirely null now. Also, it's pretty common for games to just get mired in directionless inactivity to scum's advantage, so I don't see it as inherently scummy to try and advance the game to push through that. Seems like a silly reason to vote him considering you then bitched about people not making cases yet.

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: TSQ

looks like a party pooper kind

[Thestatusquo]

The optimum scum strategy would be to vote to get some coffee as soon as they've found a mislynch they can pursue. Scums will want to end the day with the least amount of information possible and to do this without being suspected, they will likely be calling to get coffee when they feel they could get a mislynch going. Scums are not going to expect townies to agree that their mislynch of choice is the best lynch for the day.

Even if scum were going to do this, don't you think spelling out "optimum scum strategy" is a bad idea?

P-Edit:

I'm pretty sure mine is on

Really don't like this kind of hand-wringing. Reads to me like someone looking for something to attack without actually thinking about the game on a deeper level. Figuring out what scum strategy is most likely to be and then using that to determine who is most aligned with scum strategy in the way they're playing the game is like actual mafia 101.

I also don't really like the well poisoning here. "Even if this were true." is a vague attack on the points SSBF is bringing up without actually attacking them. I'm very suspicious of people who throw aspersions on other players ideas without contributing their own or at least explaining why those ideas are not correct.

Vote: Shaddowez

I actually agree with Shadowwez - this would have been a more effective tool if super smash had waited until people started voting or discussing it. It's going to be entirely null now. Also, it's pretty common for games to just get mired in directionless inactivity to scum's advantage, so I don't see it as inherently scummy to try and advance the game to push through that. Seems like a silly reason to vote him considering you then bitched about people not making cases yet.

Are you guys really this dumb? In the scenario you describe the "impact" is that town forces scum to play in a way that is not optimal, even though in most cases they can't even get out of the thing that is optimal because they need to play to their win condition.

Oh yeah, we really screwed the pooch on that one. Guess we won't have scum players "want to end the day with the least amount of information possible and to do this without being suspected, they will likely be calling to get coffee when they feel they could get a mislynch going." because they know we're looking for it. Yeah. They probably won't try to go for mislynches now. How could I have been so stupid?

[Anatole Kuragin]

How could I have been so stupid?

dunno, maybe try some night classes at the local community college?

[Thestatusquo]

Furthermore, that's not why I voted him. You agree with him and I don't want to vote you. That's because I think you're stupid, not scummy. You actually articulated your position on the subject and then engaged with it, instead of being vaguely dismissive of what the person said and then being like OMG THIS IS BAD BOOGYMAN BOOGYMAN BOOGYMAN.

Metal sonic: Eff off.

[Anatole Kuragin]

You're being obnoxious and childish for no real reason. The strategy is flawed. I would be surprised if more than you and smash disagreed.

You actually articulated your position on the subject and then engaged with it, instead of being vaguely dismissive of what the person said and then being like OMG THIS IS BAD BOOGYMAN BOOGYMAN BOOGYMAN.

And you dismissed what I said by just calling us idiots.

[Anatole Kuragin]

no longer hiding my online status, you narcs