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Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:53 am

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What do you think about the serial killer stuff?
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Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:54 am

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That's a reasonable response.

I'd like both you and Nashville to unpack exactly why you're scumreading that slot without involving armchair mara meta like yesterday because that was a fucking disaster.

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Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:56 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:What do you think about the serial killer stuff?


I don't really know how to discern SK tells vs Mafia tells and am not terribly concerned about which of the two I hit.

SK's are probably harder to catch in general because they don't generate associatives, but they do generate dishonest motivation late game when they're not necessarily hunting scum anymore.

*shrug* did you want anything more specific? Do I think gossamer is an SK? If Fonz flips mafia roleblocker I'll give it some attention.

Otherwise, meh.

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Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:00 am

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Town


Not going to put a lot of effort in explaining these two.

F-16

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Pretty Town


Nashville Dreams - reading Mala as town mostly on tone. Titus' chaotic play is bugging me. The thing about f16 being a serial killer bugs me. and the way she pops in and does a bunch of dissonant and contradictory stuff. this read is in danger of going south. should keep the claim in mind.

Maybe Town


Fonz - based on claim mostly. The clash between fonz and cutty shark comes off to me like two very similar play styles butting heads, which isn't alignment indicative. But fonz' irritability reminds me of bork's reactions to being nitpicked.

Baboon - the mara fade is bothering me. I am pretty terrible at reading ceph but I guess I'm going to have to try. will be my next read to focus on.

Lissa - very tentative read for me.

Anatole - My main reason for thinking he's town is his day 1 play, his claim and the interactions between him and csareo.

Oka - main reason for thinking he's not scum is the interactions with Anatole.

5-off - basically the only reason to think he's town is the way he outed the neighborhood.




so what i have is a bunch of nullish reads at the bottom of a small town pile. it's not seriatim, but i don't think i want to lynch anyone above anatole...maybe lissa.
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Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:02 am

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fferyllt wrote:But fonz' irritability reminds me of bork's reactions to being nitpicked.


Can you explain?

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Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:03 am

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I can point out some bad posts with a quick look at Baboon's ISO but a solid case will have to wait, I'm basically able to make posts between tickets and calls but can't really type up anything big.
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Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:05 am

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Ffer, are you opposed discussion of a potential SK in general or just about it being F-16?
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Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:08 am

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fferyllt wrote:But fonz' irritability reminds me of bork's reactions to being nitpicked.


Can you explain?

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in about 30 minutes. i have to go buy a keyboard. don't ask.
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Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:19 am

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A couple things I found quickly that fit my idea of babscum -

Baboon Pride wrote:I dont see why not, though.

Everyone who isnt cutty, falcon, or nash is fair game at this point in time.

I would still really like to keep 5-off and lissa off the table, as well but read there is wavering for me


This post contradicts bab's expressed views and votes since on both Nash and 5-off (5-off required no convincing at all, seemed like she was eager to get the lynch)

Baboon Pride wrote:I'd lynch 5-off in a heartbeat. He's more likely 3rd than mafia in my opinion, but we're ahead, we can afford to take that risk.

-Ceph


Granted, this is a week or two later and post-lynch of Honey.

Baboon Pride wrote:Bee isn't going to happen

Fonz actually might.

I don't remember why I was town-reading him, but it does kinda feel like his posts in swagton?

I'd like to have Ika dead, but Ceph disagree's with me there

collectively, it seems like our top choices are AK, FT, and Csareo

I am not as inclined to really follow through with AK though and will only lynch him via deadline

Ree and Fonz would also be acceptable deadline lynches, Ree less so, though


This is obviously from before the Bee/FT lynches. "isn't going to happen" With a quick look over her ISO, I don't see any real defense of Honey, just dismissing any suspicion even though Honey's day one looks really bad.

Uses hydra dissonance to their advantage to keep a lynch possibility open. Why would a townie need to do this?

Top choices - two townies and one VI who is likely town or third party maybe. No honey and no currently alive players who would likely be a potential third partner.

But I'm not actually a top choice, just a deadline compromise. So FT and Csareo but leaving the lynch open for me for a later point (I think I look like an easy target a lot of the time.)

But also Ree (who had done nothing at all in the game whatsoever) and Fonz, who (I haven't looked back at VCs) I think most people were townreading at the time pretty firmly and who I've had a PR vibe from all game. Guessing she did too.

big lynch pool, check. seeds for future lynches, check. possible PR hunting, check. dismissing possibility of lynching lynchbait partner, check.
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Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:45 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:Ffer, are you opposed discussion of a potential SK in general or just about it being F-16?

not at all opposed to discussion of a potential sk. p sure I mentioned I'm seeing 3rd parties under my bed thanks to this game.
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Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:46 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:Ffer, are you opposed discussion of a potential SK in general or just about it being F-16?

not at all opposed to discussion of a potential sk. p sure I mentioned I'm seeing 3rd parties under my bed thanks to this game.


Why are you suspicious of nash for saying she thinks it makes sense for f-16 to be 3rd party killer?
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Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:50 am

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fferyllt wrote:But fonz' irritability reminds me of bork's reactions to being nitpicked.


Can you explain?

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does it need explanation?

when I read his back and forths, particularly with you, it reminds me a little of you. It doesn't suggest an alignment to me, but it does give me some thoughts about how he approaches mafia, and fits in with other stuff I'm observing.
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Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:53 am

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Anatole Kuragin wrote:Ffer, are you opposed discussion of a potential SK in general or just about it being F-16?

not at all opposed to discussion of a potential sk. p sure I mentioned I'm seeing 3rd parties under my bed thanks to this game.


Why are you suspicious of nash for saying she thinks it makes sense for f-16 to be 3rd party killer?


because titus is talking about my strongest town read and I don't get anything at all about her stance wrt f-16.
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Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:54 am

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bork is that the only question you have about my reads list?
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Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:04 am

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fferyllt wrote:bork is that the only question you have about my reads list?


Don't have time atm; I'll be around tonight

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Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:06 am

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I was kinda expecting shit for that list since your gripe with me is lack of scumreads.
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Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:30 am

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fferyllt wrote:Baboon - the mara fade is bothering me. I am pretty terrible at reading ceph but I guess I'm going to have to try. will be my next read to focus on.


Ceph has the reigns, and I probably won't be around unless you need me. Am also relying on him to keep me caught up, sup?
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Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:42 am

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I'm trying to remember why I was townreading you.
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Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:51 am

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Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:52 am

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Ms Marangal wrote:ok, then. carry on.
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Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:20 pm

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fferyllt wrote:I was kinda expecting shit for that list since your gripe with me is lack of scumreads.


Why? I've already identified that issue and remarked about it, so I wasn't really surprised when that's what you came out with. I'd be more surprised at this point if you had come out with a slew of them and just weren't talking about them before now.

You're actually pretty close to where I am, all in all (almost scarily so? your bottom four are exactly the same as mine)

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Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:42 pm

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the thing that bothers me about my bottom four is that they are all players I don't have much experience playing with. one game (one game day) with anatole, and zip with the others.

also zip with fonz.
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Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:48 pm

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anatole, what's your current read of Nashville?
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Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:21 pm

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FUT replaces 5-Off!!! It actually happened!
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Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:33 pm

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