FitzOtter I (Game Over)

[T-Bone]

Yeah that makes no sense. You have not fulfilled your win condition? No shit, town and scum only fulfill it in the endgame. That's pretty much a 3rd party claim.

[T-Bone]

Actually no, not intent to hammer. I still would like a less vague explanation.

[Aegor]

Are you not reading my posts? I am town; my win condition is pro-town. I will lose the game permanently if i am lynched, but w/e. You people are not listening anyway.

[Aegor]

i.e. My win condition is not that I win if mafia are eliminated; it is something more specifically pro-town but that i have not fulfilled.

[Untrod Tripod]

I don't see how you can be aligned with town but your wincon not be for town to win

[Untrod Tripod]

but your role, as you described it, sounds like a modified hider so PLEASE talk me through it so I can feel good about unvoting you

you're really not doing a whole lot towards that end

[Aegor]

Why is that concept difficult to understand? My wincon involves lynching mafia.

[Aegor]

I am not a hider. My ability is to swap winconcwith someone non-Mafia. My win conditions requires me to do something specific while also requiring all threats to the town to be dead, hence the non-generic town wincon. My ability is 1-shot and is available starting Night 2.

[Untrod Tripod]

I am not a hider. My ability is to swap winconcwith someone non-Mafia. My win conditions requires me to do something specific while also requiring all threats to the town to be dead, hence the non-generic town wincon. My ability is 1-shot and is available starting Night 2.

so you die if you target mafia?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynch Aegor

[Aegor]

I am not a hider. My ability is to swap winconcwith someone non-Mafia. My win conditions requires me to do something specific while also requiring all threats to the town to be dead, hence the non-generic town wincon. My ability is 1-shot and is available starting Night 2.

so you die if you target mafia?

Yes

[Aegor]

Lynch Aegor

Are you willing to 1-1?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You're either scum or you're not helping us find scum as proven by your vote on confirmed town.

[Aegor]

You're either scum or you're not helping us find scum as proven by your vote on confirmed town.

How is anyone confirmed town?

[farside22]

I have bot been able to target anyone. It is 1-shot and my ability is Night 2+. Was that not contextually clear?

I thought you used the ability on HI.
He said he was a survivor and had to survive end game to win and that he was town day 1.
Are you saying you did not target anyone? If not what is your full win condion?

[Aegor]

I have said at least two times now that I cannot use my ability until Night 2.

I see no reason at all to provide scum with my secondary wincon and thereby provide them with information relevant to how they should play and how town players need to play.

[Marky Mark]

Sorry, I had assumed you had used your ability last night on the grounds that farside said hi mentioned they had had their wincon changed in the pt. So I'm thinking there is three options.

1.)You targeted HI last night and are lying about your ability only being 2nd night +
2.)HI's ability was just randomly changed last night for no reason
3..)There is more than one player with your role.

I'm not gonna lie - #1 seems overwhelmingly likely to me. Intent to hammer after dgb unloverises the pair or tomorrow morning uk time regardless. If dgb does not use her ability by then I will assume it is due to scum motives.

[Marky Mark]

Oh also please tell us exactly what your current wincon is.

[AurorusVox]

Aegor's caginess in the face of plenty of people asking for greater clarity strikes me as someone who has something to hide. If this ulterior agenda is anything other than scummy reasoning then she should (would) have explained it by now.

DGB: do you think Juls' idea about keeping the Lovers alive for tonight (and seeing what happens to them) is a legitimate use of the role? Otherwise, can you explain why you have yet to Unlover the pair of them?

[Hostile Intent]

I'm a Town _____ Survivor, meaning I only win with town if I ALSO survive to the end.

Add loverizing me with the, ahem, blunt woman who repeatedly called me an idiot and, well, yeah.

I no longer give a fuck about this game.

But we should not lynch my one townread and let him prove he can switch win-cons, at least? Its whatever.

[AurorusVox]

Do you not find it suspicious that your win-con was changed (i.e. potentially SWAPPED) last night? I think there's pretty solid evidence that Aegor was behind that.

[Hostile Intent]

Not any less suspect than there being a loverizer and an unloverizer.

Its actually literally the same thing.

[DrippingGoofball]

Intent to hammer after dgb unloverises the pair

ACTION SENT TO MOD

HI & Farside UNLOVERIZED

PLEASE HAMMER

[Hostile Intent]

And if he flips town, guys, I'm straight up active lurking because fuck this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

active lurking

Someone vig this.