Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

OkaPoka · Post Post #2750 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:10 pm

Ummm. I got lazy and read my predecessor's iso and then went and did other stuff.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2751 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:12 pm

Okay, so you read it Night one when you replaced in. That's why this:

↑ OkaPoka wrote:Holy. My predecessor iso is a mess.

post feels odd to me. It felt as though you were just then reading your predecessor's ISO and commenting as you read.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2752 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:13 pm

You posted that D2 after you had already claimed and interacted with people a lot.

OkaPoka · Post Post #2753 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:14 pm

Yep. I will admit I got pretty lazy at reading until pretty recently.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2754 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:16 pm

That doesn't explain my concern. You read your predecessor's ISO night one and then "did other stuff." Then you came back into the thread, interacted with people, asked them to give you ISOs to read etc, and then went back and read your predecessor's ISO again? Why?

OkaPoka · Post Post #2755 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:17 pm

Because I can?

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2756 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:18 pm

I'm sure you can. But it doesn't remotely help you find scum to read your predecessor's ISO TWICE. When you have a whole game to catch up on and limited time to do so.

OkaPoka · Post Post #2757 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:20 pm

Why can't I read my predecessor? He was an easy short iso for lazy people and conf town for me. He has my sort of mindset, and it would only make sense to read him and honeybee the most.

Cutty Shark · Post Post #2758 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:21 pm

prod dodge for the moment, but will be around either in an hour or early tomm if I crash soon

-b

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2759 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:24 pm

My worry about you stems from this post you made upon replacing in:

↑ OkaPoka wrote:Apparently my predecessor already claimed so I can't use my role to my advantage.

At first it felt natural and townish and I figured you were probably town for it. But then I realized that to know that information, you would have either
a) as town, read your predecessor's ISO or
b) as scum, your teammates told you that that is the role you need to claim/that your predecessor already claimed that role and you need to be consistent.

If the answer is (a) and you had already read your predecessor's ISO, then you wouldn't need to do it again. But if you are lying about it and been told about it by your scumpartner, then you would have that info without looking through your predecessor's ISO and would need to read it at some point in the future. And you have.

The other explanation is what you just gave me: you've been reading through it multiple times - but why would you, instead of just reading the game, reading other ISOs?

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2760 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:26 pm

↑ OkaPoka wrote:Why can't I read my predecessor? He was an easy short iso for lazy people and conf town for me. He has my sort of mindset, and it would only make sense to read him and honeybee the most.

Of course you can read your predecessor. I'm asking why you are doing it multiple times when it won't help you develop reads.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2761 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:34 pm

Where did you go OkaPoka?

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2762 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:34 pm

Where did you go OkaPoka?

OkaPoka · Post Post #2763 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:51 pm

Sorry afk for a bit. I need to do other stuff so consider this the last post for a bit.

I reread my predecessor to get a good feel of his reads and probably am going to need to reread my predecessor at this point. I'd probably be more comfortable with any of my predecessor's scum reads than most people right now.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2764 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:06 pm

↑ OkaPoka wrote:Scumreading Nashville dream. Keeps defending hb, and flip flops on csar or me. I dont understand the case and this hydra need to make their mind up.

Do you think that scum typically defend each other? I recall in your other town games, you seemed very paranoid that scum are distancing and bussing each other.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2765 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:08 pm

↑ OkaPoka wrote:Also im getting a good town vibe off of anatole and 5off.

Lissa is pretty null to me.

Nashville is a bit scummy. Im going to look over cutty next

What about 5-Off and Anatole do you find town?

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2766 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:15 pm

↑ OkaPoka wrote:I'm reading Fonz and Ffery town for the honey bee lynch going down.

Elaborate on this.

OkaPoka · Post Post #2767 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:17 pm

1. I realized after newbie game with Zaicon bussing doesn't work well. Along with my bus of XAy in Chosen, bussing each other is a bad idea.

2. Uhhh, 5-off is obvious read my walls, I forgot about AK

3. They got scum!

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2768 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:32 pm

Okay, list all of your reads now with reasons.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2769 (ISO) » Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:22 pm

↑ OkaPoka wrote:308 honey bee seems towny

Why?

OkaPoka · Post Post #2770 (ISO) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:44 am

Oh god. Maybe later

Because seems like scumhunting and informational. The thing is honey bee lynch was good due to the active lurking part.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon · Post Post #2771 (ISO) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:04 pm

Those are really weak and generic statements and lack fire. That's the major difference I saw from your play here to your play in your towngames. You say Honeybee is town for "scumhunting" which isn't really a justification and is tantamount to saying "she's town because she's town." What do you mean "informational?" How are her posts informational in a way that other player's posts haven't been?

Natirasha · Post Post #2772 (ISO) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:22 pm

Vote Count 2.8

SIIIIIGH

Nashville Dreams(0):

Cutty Shark(0):

FUT(3):

Cutty Shark, Baboon Pride, The Fonz

AnatoleKuragin(0):

The Fonz(0):

F-1_Fighting_Falcon(0):

Baboon Pride(4):

Nashville Dreams, Anatole Kuragin, Lissa, OkaPoka

fferyllt(1):

F-16_Fighting_Falcon

OkaPoka(1):

fferylt

Lissa(0):

Not Voting(1):

FUT

With ten alive, it is six to lynch.
Replacing FUT...

(expired on 2014-10-09 16:00:00)

OkaPoka · Post Post #2773 (ISO) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:34 pm

↑ F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Those are really weak and generic statements and lack fire. That's the major difference I saw from your play here to your play in your towngames. You say Honeybee is town for "scumhunting" which isn't really a justification and is tantamount to saying "she's town because she's town." What do you mean "informational?" How are her posts informational in a way that other player's posts haven't been?

Gneral gut, she seems focused and not fluffy. There was a lot of fluff posting this game.

Titus · Post Post #2774 (ISO) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:02 pm

↑ F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:OkaPoka meta:

TOWN:
Newbie 1505 (VT, lynched D1)
Micro 349: Clinic Madness (Town Doctor, lynched D1)
Mini 1582: Formerfish's First Foray (VT, lynched D1)
Newbie 1523 (Town tracker, killed N3)
Newbie 1492 (Town 1X BP, survived and won)

SCUM:
Micro 344:Vengeful - Lynched D1, (Scum PT)
Micro 352: Chosen Mafia - Lynched D4, (Scum PT)
Newbie 1507 - Game was a draw (survived), (Scum PT)
Micro 370: Gerrymander Mafia - Lynched D1, (Scum PT)

~~~

Going to go through these this evening. The one thing that struck me was the Oka is lynched surprisingly often. 100% of the time he was town but not a PR (3/3), he was mislynched D1. (I'm not counting the doc as a PR since it was a clinic madness game and everyone is a doc).

So, maybe you should be giving him consideration based on VI-ness Ffery. I'd be interested in your thoughts on his meta.

Hardly. Just looking at his meta, and if there's zero significant revision, the longer he is alive without being significantly wagoned... the more likely he is scum.