Mini 1603 - Air Combat Mafia - Game Over

[xRECKONERx]

Actually fuck it, whatever, I'll do it live.

VOTE: mykonian

It's Grey+myko. If it's actually Flubber then GG I guess but I am tired of this game.

[GreyICE]

@Grey wouldn't there have been a quickhammer??

I'm more curious because Reck and Myk are your strongest scumreads, from what I understand.

This LyLo, like most, is a puzzlebox, and you're the only guy I have a decent read on. So I'm looking for thoughts, because basically if I vote someone you're not voting I feel like I throw the game away.

[Flubbernugget]

I'm hesitant to vote because I have yet to make it to lylo and not fuck it up.

Why do you have the strongest read on the player with the least content?

And the vote, barring quickhammers, could have very well been a bus if there's two scum, but that usually only happens when one of the scum is pegged


Is anybody town reading myko?

[mykonian]

Just greyice. Ish. I like the ish part, if greyice happened to be scum, I think he'd "support" the terrible townie harder.

So, just the scum are "scumreading" me, really. Which is strange, because Reck hasn't said a negative word about me all game. I don't know what to tell you if you can't see how anatole's response to my vote is scummy. Doesn't do a thing all lylo while yesterday he was the competing wagon, then as soon as someone pulls the trigger he's there with the vote.

The scumteam is reck and anatole. Even if you don't see anatole being scum with SSK, which is really not that hard to get, the way today has gone with the votes makes it quite obvious.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Myko, you are being scumread by every player right now and the only reason we're not voting is out of fear we're wrong about that instinct.

Don't you think it's time to stop being such an ass about what is "obvious" and who is "terrible" if

every

player thinks you're playing scummy?

[GreyICE]

I'm hesitant to vote because I have yet to make it to lylo and not fuck it up.

Why do you have the strongest read on the player with the least content?

Amount of content is a poor predictor of pretty much anything. You were in Open 569 with me, you know Titus+Thesp had what, like 200 posts, and so did TN? And Varsoon?

It's about how much you care about the posts. "These are shit wagons, lets lynch Reck or Myko" is a fucking townie statement. You riffing off SSK if he's a scumbuddy of you? Possible, but unlikely. It's enough to put you a very distant 4th in my "interest in lynching list".

If I'm not going to lynch someone in LyLo, I better damn well vote with them, because LyLo is a fool's game. If any townie has one wrong read (out of 3 players!) then we lose. One wrong read! I'm fairly sure it's Reck, I'm willing to gamble it's Reck+Myko. But I certainly can't win if I'm going to say you're so strongly a town read that I will not lynch you, and then put my vote somewhere you're not voting.

P.S. Dead thread can bite me.

[Anatole Kuragin]

If myko wasn't lynched in the past 12 hours it's pretty much guaranteed he's scum right?

[GreyICE]

It pretty much guarantees that a minimum of one of Reck and Myko is scum, yes. Possible scum teams, from my perspective, are you-Reck and Myko-Reck (and you wonder why I want to lynch Reckoner)

[GreyICE]

Although I guess you+Myko and this is a long trip to town cred buying...

Whatever.

[mykonian]

Myko, you are being scumread by every player right now and the only reason we're not voting is out of fear we're wrong about that instinct.

Don't you think it's time to stop being such an ass about what is "obvious" and who is "terrible" if

every

player thinks you're playing scummy?

This post isn't helping you. 50% of "everybody" scumreading me, is scum. You don't get a scum lynch in a 5p lylo with everybody agreeing on it. That means scum is supporting it

Guess who, anatole!

[mykonian]

It pretty much guarantees that a minimum of one of Reck and Myko is scum, yes. Possible scum teams, from my perspective, are you-Reck and Myko-Reck (and you wonder why I want to lynch Reckoner)

Sure, I can live with that.

vote reck

[xRECKONERx]

If myko wasn't lynched in the past 12 hours it's pretty much guaranteed he's scum right?

YEP.

It pretty much guarantees that a minimum of one of Reck and Myko is scum, yes. Possible scum teams, from my perspective, are you-Reck and Myko-Reck (and you wonder why I want to lynch Reckoner)

It pretty much guarantees that a minimum of one of Reck and Myko is scum, yes. Possible scum teams, from my perspective, are you-Reck and Myko-Reck (and you wonder why I want to lynch Reckoner)

Sure, I can live with that.

vote reck

oh man.

Prepare to get fleeced by GreyICE/Myko, morons. Isn't is convenient that GI came in and voted for me after Flubber had already expressed interest in voting me or myko? Isn't it convenient that convenient that Flubber is GI's "only" town read, and he just so happens to be the person who wanted to lynch me or myko (GI's buddy) in the first place?

Flubber is getting fleeced by GI-scum (aka farside-scum, like I've been saying all game), and they're using GI's replace-in as a hail mary to win the game.

[Anatole Kuragin]

can you guys stop calling us idiots and morons, it doesn't help your cases

[xRECKONERx]

It's unbelievably frustrating to call farside scum all game and get ignored (I mean, myko LITERALLY just ignored it and said our argument weren't important, and in hindsight, NO SHIT OF COURSE HE DID!)

It's frustrating to have scum at L-1 then have a bullshit scumbag tactical replace out from farside so scum can get fresh blood and go for the hail mary here. And it's working, and it's borderline unethical.

[GreyICE]

Except Farside is town, and if you're town we're going to have words after the game. Fuck, if you're scum, there will probably be words. Double fuck, if farside was scum, we'd STILL have words. The way you bully people on this site is truly over the line. Other people go off on rants, but you spend days just insulting people. Days.

[mykonian]

heh, flubber. This is everything you could ever want. Reck and me being wagonned

[Anatole Kuragin]

I want to say reck is town

[Anatole Kuragin]

could be wrong, but I have a better feeling about reck than the rest of you

[Anatole Kuragin]

Flubber's ISO is actually pretty bad - frequent inconsistencies with his reads. will post examples.

[Anatole Kuragin]

AK is town.

The fact that this game isn't full of apathy. It would ruin a lot more and it's not a "I want this done and over" kinda thing.

I would probably hammer AK due to PoE.

I need to look this game over again and get a reads list. But that's gonna take some time. And I'm procrastinating homework right now. And tonight marks the beginning of a holiday for me so I won't be able to bury my head in a phone/computer all night. And tomorrow I have classes all day. If I can't get to it before sundown, can you guys wait till late Friday for me to catch up or should I replace out?

I'm still drawing blanks on how myko is trying to get his reads. And he's probably going to scum read me for saying I'm drawing blanks. Like that's the kind of logic I feel like he's trying to push. I don't get it. I almost got it in the beginning of the game but now idk.

And?
Like this is pretty much just posting to post.

What is your view on let's say csa or tso? You have a view on them ?

Its posting to say that if myko keeps going after shallow reads this late in the day he's scum.

Csareo had a permanent VI read from me. I haven't seen him as town but from his play so far I honestly think that the day he gets a scum pm is the day he lurks so hard SSK ends up calling him out in it.

TSO is null/scum. Like normally, "saying this game sucks" or something to that effect as an excuse to half-ass your way through the game is a scum tell to me. But I kinda feel where he's coming from here. I don't see anything juicy to latch onto, and as MattP can tell you, I'm not quite the conversationalist to really put life into the game. Maybe he's the same way?

@TSO. Weird question. I can understand if you don't want to answer it. You go to a party of about 20-30 people, with only 3 of which you know. What do you think you would do in a situation like this?

TSO isn't scum and that lynch isn't happening. 14 hrs left; it needs to stay between Espresso and me (preferably Espresso though )

I'm scum, I'm not scum. TSO is scum, TSO is town.

[xRECKONERx]

Except Farside is town, and if you're town we're going to have words after the game. Fuck, if you're scum, there will probably be words. Double fuck, if farside was scum, we'd STILL have words. The way you bully people on this site is truly over the line. Other people go off on rants, but you spend days just insulting people. Days.

fuck off

[Anatole Kuragin]

I don't understand the scum read on vez. He's lurking like the rest of the game.

There are two static wagons at the moment, both with three people each. One is Csareo, the other is vezok. The lack of anything happening except these two is strongly, strongly indicative of one being scum. You agree with me that Csareo is both scum and an easy mislynch. Vezok is not only the counterwagon but he is

also voting Csareo to boot.

Vote vezok.

Why are people saying he has no case?

And TSO, what made SSK's vote scummier than mine?

Lightly defends SSK, barely mentions him at all aside from this in his ISO, certainly doesn't ever seem to suspect him.

[GreyICE]

Anatole

I'm not voting Flubber today

It's LyLo

I'm town

Deal with it

[Anatole Kuragin]

yeah well I don't have a lot of confidence in your town play if you are town

[Anatole Kuragin]

so forgive me for trying to investigate shit on my own