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Post Post #36125 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:20 pm

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Also, this marks two games in a row where I play aac and the support d/c's partway through laning phase. Why do I even bother?
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Post Post #36126 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:56 pm

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Post Post #36127 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:13 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:Am I the only one to think new Soraka's really bullshit and needs toning down? The Q seems way too easy to hit, even at mid range. Which means free (and infinite) healing for everyone.

Needs hard engage.
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Post Post #36128 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:44 pm

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Iecerint wrote:
animorpherv1 wrote:Am I the only one to think new Soraka's really bullshit and needs toning down? The Q seems way too easy to hit, even at mid range. Which means free (and infinite) healing for everyone.

Needs hard engage.


So does Janna, but she's top tier.
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Post Post #36129 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:00 pm

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Cause she has the most insane disengage ability in the game. Soraka doesn't has neither engage or disengage.
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Post Post #36130 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:10 pm

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Soraka's job has
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been to keep her carries healthy. Not to engage or disengage, really. What she does she's clearly best-at-class in by a very large scale. Add on spammable poke that doubles as a self-heal and I don't really see a way of getting past Soraka. Also she completely shuts down carries such as Graves, Corki, Varus, Lucian, and Ezreal, who need to be casting spells to be useful.
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Post Post #36131 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:11 pm

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Venmar wrote:Soraka doesn't has neither engage or disengage

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Post Post #36132 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:13 pm

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the game ended at 18 minutes. Their Renekton was something like 12/0/4.

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Post Post #36133 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:14 pm

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Venmar wrote:Soraka doesn't has neither engage or disengage

rip english

LOL.
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Post Post #36134 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:15 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:she completely shuts down carries such as
Graves

NOW I see why Ani's whining :wink:
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Post Post #36135 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:15 pm

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So I saw some people playing soraka mid earlier.

I need to try that out of respect for the fact soraka mid carried me to gold...
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Post Post #36136 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:16 pm

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Maestro wrote:
animorpherv1 wrote:she completely shuts down carries such as
Graves

NOW I see why Ani's whining :wink:


That too. My favourite ADCs are pretty much all on that list. (Varus is also one of my top 3 ADCs).
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Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:So I saw some people playing soraka mid earlier.

I need to try that out of respect for the fact soraka mid carried me to gold...

new raka mid is p bad

one real damage ability, and nothing spammable like starcall anymore
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Post Post #36138 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:18 pm

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Venmar wrote:Soraka doesn't has neither engage or disengage.


this is amazing. It's like google translate in alpha version.
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Post Post #36139 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:19 pm

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wait does her q heal her only if it hits a champion or any enemy unit.
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Post Post #36140 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:19 pm

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Sometimes I type too fast to realize that I mistyped :(
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Post Post #36141 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:21 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:Soraka's job has
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been to keep her carries healthy. Not to engage or disengage, really. What she does she's clearly best-at-class in by a very large scale. Add on spammable poke that doubles as a self-heal and I don't really see a way of getting past Soraka. Also she completely shuts down carries such as Graves, Corki, Varus, Lucian, and Ezreal, who need to be casting spells to be useful.

Sure, but the current comps require the Support to give some form of CC, Engage, or Disengage. Soraka comps will put more pressure on the mid and top planes to play hard engange/hard disengage champs, which currently aren't super popular in either lane, other than Jarvan.
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Post Post #36142 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:22 pm

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I meant Top and Jung, not Top and Mid.
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Post Post #36143 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:22 pm

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Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:wait does her q heal her only if it hits a champion or any enemy unit.


Champion.

She gets the heal per champion hit, though.

Hit five, heal five times. Hit three, heal three times. Off one q.
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Post Post #36144 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:22 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:
Iecerint wrote:
animorpherv1 wrote:Am I the only one to think new Soraka's really bullshit and needs toning down? The Q seems way too easy to hit, even at mid range. Which means free (and infinite) healing for everyone.

Needs hard engage.

So does Janna, but she's top tier.

I am saying that you need to hard engage against her.

Soraka Q only heals if it ends an enemy champion, which is why it's nice bot lane. She's apparently nice against people like Kat whom she can insta-silence (whereas other silences have travel time).
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Post Post #36145 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:04 pm

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Note that cho's silence and soraka's silence are, at this point, the only silences left in the game.

Also, soraka's ult counteracts the grievous wounds caused by kat's ult. So silence + ult = kat's ult 100% rekt
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Post Post #36146 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:07 pm

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Post Post #36147 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:07 pm

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I kinda hope sion gets played just so we can see a thresh hooking him and getting dragged half way across the map.
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Post Post #36148 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:09 pm

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Not sure if it would work that way but would be funny. Pretty sure Sion is spell immune while charging.
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Post Post #36149 (ISO) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:11 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:Soraka's job has
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Those are some incredibly weird examples to give because Graves/Lucian/Corki + a support with hard CC = dead soraka. Her strength is winning battles of attrition where she helps by healing her carry and chipping away at the other teams health so that they're eventually forced back or are weakened enough to be unable to punish her carries mistakes. Supports that can engage + carries that excel at bursting heroes down (aka graves/lucian/corki) can bypass her main strength by making the entire lane about a series of short brutal fights rather then an extended pokefest.
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