Mini 1602: Game Over

[SleepyKrew]

VC 5.01

nopointinactingup

(1) - Bert

sthar8

(1) - notscience

Not Voting

(3) - nopointinactingup, Aneninen, sthar8

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Day 5 deadline will hit in: (expired on 2014-10-22 15:08:28).

[nopointinactingup]

Bert or Sthar ..

I suppose I will let both of you to spend much time and energy to make cases on the other/speak up to defend yourself because I'm a sadist ...

[notscience]

A vote for bert is a vote for me revoting you

[sthar8]

notty

[sthar8]

you're being a bad conftown.

[nopointinactingup]

I don't handle threats well notty.
But I suppose we both are town and should try to work together? Why is Bert obv town to you?

[notscience]

because what nacho said+because his random all over the place logic I could follow

[Bert]

I suppose I will let both of you to spend much time and energy to make cases on the other/speak up to defend yourself because I'm a sadist ..

Spoiler: I ain't got no time for dat!

Ok. L-1. Don't hammer

unless there's a counter claim

, then we find scum.
I'm Macho Odd Night Cop. Let's mass claim
I investigated Mala (Chaos did) and Nacho respectively

Why would you say "don't hammer unless there's a counterclaim." If you're town, why would you have any reason to believe scum would counterclaim you and auto-lose???

OKAY so nopointinactingup's predecessor's play corroborates the claim - so even if it's scum, it was set up days in advance

Here's the Day 1 post-Neil-cop-claim post by chaoslord54 (nopoint's predecessor).

Emergency V/LA Mod for the next couple of days, at least.

I'm not sure when I'll get internet again, the electric was cut off because my wife forgot to pay it. *sigh* So I'm trying to view this from my phone but there's like 10000 pages, and there's no possible way I can accurately type this out, and read everything on a phone. If I'm at L-1 right now, and people are still seriously considering lynching me, don't. At least not yet, give me a chance to play.

I'm a Cop. Which should explain a little bit about my attitude, especially toward my predecessor. I promise once I have access, I'll answer every question addressed to me.

Guys we should not believe him. Of course he's going to try and claim a role like that when he's about to be lynched. He knows that it could keep him alive for a while and if the real cop CCs him then scum know who to take out on the first night. I think we should take the risk, lynch him, and figure it out tomorrow.

Day 2 opening post by chaoslord54

Hey guys I will post a longer post in the morning but I want to mention this early on.

My strongest town read is now malakittens.

Ill post the rest of my reads tomorrow and will also explain my reasoning as well.

So the mala "cop" was crumbed. That is such an obvious PR crumb. How could scum not pick up on that unless they aren’t paying attention????????????????? Maybe chaos’s huge sudden townread on Mala made her uncomfortable maybe?

Anyone here I'm ready to discuss. I'm at L-1 if I'm not mistaken and I think scums are already on my wagon (Implosion + NS/Bert).

Then WHY would you investigate Nacho if you said this at the end of DAY THREE?????

Did you miss where Mala soft claimed and "cleared" notscience?

I'm phone bound tonight so not of much use for discussion.

Re: implosion - May I ask what the difference is for you between town and scum cruising?

Also Nacho I haven't linked what Mala said about NP, I'll remind myself to tomorrow

I have actually.

Scum cruising do not explain their votes. They do not try to sound like they are producing content like Implosion did.

I was cruising. Nacho was not. Why did you suspect Nacho at all Night 3? You made no mention of suspecting him....

Ok since you can never get over your tunneling for my slot. Let's lynch Implosion first.

Then tomorrow you can lynch me if you want. PLEASE?

Why would you say this "you can lynch me tomorrow." Why would you offer this kind of compromise as a vital PR??

Agar's play today has been bad, but that in no ways warrantee a lynch. He's been on the Flame/Neil wagon all Day 1. We've got scummier fish to fry, aka Implosion.

You came into Day 3 with huge suspicions on me ALONG WITH A VOTE on phokdapolees. You didn't remove it until you said you would give me time to catch up.

Why, why, why would you investigate Nacho Night 3 instead of me. I don't get it, sorry. Your top scumread. Who is unlikely to die at night due to all the scumreads on him. And thus I don't believe your claim.

[Bert]

Anyone here I'm ready to discuss. I'm at L-1 if I'm not mistaken and I think scums are already on my wagon (Implosion + NS/Bert).

You say you think the scums are already on your wagon. No mention of Nacho/BPC.

Ok. L-1. Don't hammer unless there's a counter claim, then we find scum.
I'm Macho Odd Night Cop. Let's mass claim
I investigated Mala (Chaos did) and Nacho respectively

These are two very different reactions to being at lynch -1. Today's reaction was much more full of panic. Similar situation. Not LYLO.

[Bert]

Here's my theory if you're scum. My theory is mafia is full of goons. You have a safe fakeclaim. Your predecessor probably crumbed cop in advance of a potential fakeclaim. Then, today, "clearing" one living person makes the game harder for scum to win, as it limits the mislynches town can go after. So you say "Nacho," instead of your top scumread.

Let's say you "clear" me today. So, I'm town, and notscience is town based on friendly neighbor (confirmed by Mala). If you live for tomorrow, you have to "investigate/guilty" sthar or Anen (whichever one ISNT lynched today) before LYLO. It automatically becomes you vs. whichever you "fake guilty."

Just "clearing" a dead person makes this much more simple for your win. There are much less confirmed players that way.

I do not see how your mindset suddenly goes to "let's investigate Nacho" after you were very suspicious of my play (along with implosion's) throughout Day 3. Your top two scumreads, me being your top.

[Bert]

"clear me night 3," I meant. well, seeing as you're "odd night," even Agar would have made much more sense than Nacho as an investigation. Sorry I'm getting mixed/jumbled up with the odd night and what day it is, etc.

tl;dr: why not investigate me night 3. why investigate nacho. please answer that

[notscience]

bert

wtf are you doing

are you actually scum

[Bert]

"clear me night 3," I meant.

Tmand: Has both town and scum points. I like that he moved off rack early when [Flames/Rack] competing wagon in VC1.09 but his unvoting on Neil is scummy. Null to scummy
Bipolar: Some points against him in VCA, but Deasvail flip is some evidence he could be town. Null to scummy
Implosion: Unvote revote on Neil was scummy. [Likely scum]
Phok: A lot of scummy points from interaction with Neil [Likely scum]

day 3 scumreads. Nacho is null to scummy. I'm likely scum. ?????

Hello all. My feeling after the Malakittens Vanilla Townie reveal is that notscience is a friendly neighbor. Just throwing that out there.

This shows that you've put a lot of thoughts about this. Perhaps overnight.

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I'm not willing to lynch [notscience, nacho, ane or sthar] today btw. That leaves Agar and Bert. Possibly both are scum.

Vote:Bert

why didn't you crumb your innocent on Nacho here at the start of day 4?????????? just one general townread list?????

[nopointinactingup]

1> I said don't hammer unless there's a counter-claim because if someone counter claims me, then he's scum and I win. Did you see then "then we find scum" part?
2> I investigated Nacho, or should I say I didn't investigate you ( I investigated AGar then took back and investigated Nacho instead) because I thought I should try to find out the smarter scum (no offense)
3> I already thought about this at the beginning of the day that if I'm ever at L-1 I would immediately claim. BECAUSE the worse thing that could happen to town right now is that I get lynched/hammered by a town. I didn't claim when I was at L-1 earlier in Day 3 because I wanted to get an investigate in before I get killed by scum. That's why I needed Night 3 and gave my lynch me tomorrow post to Mala.

[Bert]

bert

wtf are you doing

are you actually scum

no

im about to go to sleep though

im sorting through my paranoia because investigating nacho makes no sense

[notscience]

Idk about you

but I investigate nacho for being nacho

[nopointinactingup]

Hello all. My feeling after the Malakittens Vanilla Townie reveal is that notscience is a friendly neighbor. Just throwing that out there.

This is my sudden Nacho-town shift on Day 4

I don't know where you are going with this because it's making you scummier

[nopointinactingup]

Hello all. My feeling after the Malakittens Vanilla Townie reveal is that notscience is a friendly neighbor. Just throwing that out there.

This shows that you've put a lot of thoughts about this. Perhaps overnight.

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I'm not willing to lynch [notscience, nacho, ane or sthar] today btw. That leaves Agar and Bert. Possibly both are scum.

Vote:Bert

Wrong quote.

[Bert]

Idk about you

but I investigate nacho for being nacho

Ok maybe I'm biased

He's just likely to die as town, so living long for him is the biggest red flag of all

And as a cop, I always bypassed investigating him in old newbies...

[Bert]

You 50/50 lose a confirming chance when the time for claiming comes by investigating him

By the time it matters, if he's inno (and he was the only town leader) there's no way he survives until LYLO barring protection

[nopointinactingup]

wtf are you talking about? If I don't claim and scum don't kill me then how tf do I die?

[Bert]

If Anen would stop being so cautious about expressing his opinions, I would say it's Sthar.

P-edit: I'm talking about Nacho dying, not you

[Bert]

Idk about you

but I investigate nacho for being nacho

Ok maybe I'm biased

He's just likely to die as town, so living long for him is the biggest red flag of all

And as a cop, I always bypassed investigating him in old newbies...

This and the posts after it are referring to Nacho

Have you played with Nacho before?

I have like 20 games at least with Nacho and Notscience

In addition to many hydra games with both aka two players on one account

[Bert]

VOTE: Anen

Also I don't like how you want to watch me argue with sthar.

I think Anen's likelier and narrowing the pool to two without Anen makes Anen's win if scum really easy....

Cake walk

/mobile

[nopointinactingup]

If you're still not convinced about it. You can take a look at this Mala breadcrumb I've made to try to convince Mala that I was town.

1> Bert needs time to catch up. My vote on him is useless right now
2> I'm actually more confident on Implosion being scum than Bert given his recent posts. I already pointed out what's wrong with them.
3> As for my initial suspicion of Implosion. I've already mentioned in my VCA and my posts.

Please pay SPECIAL attention to my VCA.

The fact that you're asking that really makes me think that you're not reading the game. I'm fairly confident that you're town so please stay active and kill this apathy. I'll address any concern you may have over my slot/ the game.

Note: Please pay SPECIAL attention to my VCA

Spoiler: Part 3

VC 1.07

rack (5) - Aneninen, phokdapolees, tman2nd,

Flames682

,

chaoslord54

Malakittens (2) -

Tammy

, implosion
Aneninen (2) -

Malakittens

,

Elias_the_thief

phokdapolees (1) - rack
tman2nd (1) - Riabi

Flames682

(1) - AGar
Not Voting (1) -

shaddowez

This part is interesting. As his wagon has just getting disbanded. I don't think Flame would have tried to buss supposedly scumbuddy here. Rack looks to be town from this VCA.

I colored her green (on purpose) to crumb my investigation.