FitzOtter I (Game Over)

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

kurbio's lack of anything since he replaced.

yah because i would lurk like a motherfucker as scum since i hate being scum right



fuck outta here with that

[Hostile Intent]

I like this guy. I'm not sold on him either way, but as a human being I know we could be great friends.

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

and spell my fucking name right farside

[Untrod Tripod]

I will explain my case on you (in FULL sentences) in the next post. I would ask that you do the same. And then, I want town to choose between the two of us. I don't want to continue playing with you at all.

this makes me want to keep the two of you around for as long as possible

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

i've literally spent nearly every waking moment of the last five days arguing non-stop with a bipolar, pregnant woman and i really don't have the energy for this "LOLOLOLOL KURBIO IS LURKING" bullshit

[Untrod Tripod]

I like this guy. I'm not sold on him either way, but as a human being I know we could be great friends.

kuribo is basically the best

but he still might be scum here

and it's not because of the activity

[Untrod Tripod]

bipolar

, pregnant woman

kuribo what the hell

how do you keep getting yourself into these situations

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

like i literally spent friday evening drinking margheritas in a bathtub because that's how i roll


oh and tonight i poured vinegar on my crotch to see if i have genital warts



spoiler alert, i dont

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

kuribo what the hell

how do you keep getting yourself into these situations

one of my friends asked me the same thing, her exact words were "don't come crying to me if you get stabbed again"

[Untrod Tripod]

stop sticking your dick in crazy, bro

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

sociopaths are great in bed though

[Hostile Intent]

I've now woken my kids up twice laughing at these posts. Grats on not having an STD.

Kuribo, would you be able to produce a reads list for us?

[Juls]

These are my points on farside:

• 1)
  Failure to lynch farside Day 2:
  
  On night 1 I neighborized farside and Hostile Intent. I did this because I believed, at the time, that Hostile Intent was scum. I also didn't have any other strong scum reads but wanted to use the ability anyway. Therefore, I picked farside who, other than myself and ika, had the most people questioning their alignment on day one. I did this because I trusted that the people calling her scum were at least partially town. I also wanted to get rid of HI and thought putting farside with him would potentially help that happen. However, I will admit, the fact that farside started calling me scum at the end of day one just before the lynch DID play a bit of a role in it. Now, the first thing I did on day 2 was claim. In my opinion, if both players were town, scum would find a way to make the lynch happen. First, it would make me look suspicious and thus securing 3 town lynches (HI, farside, and myself). Second, they would get two free kills. Now I don't think scum would come out and shout from the rooftops what they were doing but with day talk, I suspect that scum could have came up with a plan to nudge town in that direction and keep some people off the wagon. But that didn't happen. Wagons on both HI and farside were DOA.
  For this reason, I believe that at least one of the two people I loverized were scum.
  I have POE'd it to farside because HI has town-told, in my opinion, a couple of times on day 2 and I feel he may very well be town.
  
  2)
  No Night Kill of the Lovers:
  
  It's evident that we do not have a vigilante (unless it's one-shot or something) and we do not have a 3rd party killing faction. Therefore, we only have scum as a killing role. Yet the scum decided to kill Konowa? If I had loverized two town, I think it would be way too tempting to pass up killing both. Especially since there was no kill night one.
  This adds to my reason as to why I think at least one lover is scum
  .
  
  3)
  Loaded Questions/Misrepresentations:
  
  
  [a]
  On day one, I voted for ika for being anti-town and threatening to self-vote. I put him at L-1. He proceeded to hammer himself. At the beginning of day 2, farside began pushing me as scum, in part, because I voted for ika. I voted ika for two reasons. First, I have a history of doing so, as I stated, I did this in FTL (note I volunteered this information). Second, I was calling his bluff. I felt like that if he didn't hammer, that would give me information. What information I cannot say because he hammered himself. But for instance, he may have raged a bit but not vote himself in order to play to his wincon as town. He also may have self-voted and flip jester which I really didn't give two flips about because I am pretty sure it would not have ended the game. Other information I was looking for was if someone ELSE hammered him. How they did it? Why they did it? Or who would unvote. Did they do it out of town-caution? Did they do it to seem town? There was a lot of information to be gathered from putting him at L-1. Unfortunately he is an idiot who self-hammered or possibly other reasons we are not aware of at all. So, those are my reasons for putting him at L-1. One of the scummiest things farside did all game was this post. I have played with farside enough to know that she metas people as both scum and town. She went to look at where I voted for the player in FTL. And she knew that the player ended up flipping town. She proceeded to ASK me what alignment he ended up being knowing full well that he was in fact town. This was an attempt to trap me and make me look scummy by answering the question honestly. Town-farside would have went about it from the complete opposite way. She would have stated that the player was town that I voted in the last game so my argument did not hold weight. She instead set a trap. That is not town behavior. As I said earlier, I had nothing to hide, I volunteered the information to begin with. Not to mention that ABR was in that game as well and knew full well the circumstances.
  
  
  Me "Shoving my Ability Down Peoples Throat" - In this post farside says I am pushing my ability as the reason I am town. I will admit that I thought my ability couldn't be given to scum because of the logistics of being able to loverize and then kill. And I also admit, that on day 2, the lack of kill did make that questionable. However, at no point have I "shoved my ability" as the sole reason I am town. The only time I mentioned my ability as being town prior to this post is shortly after I claimed, here, and on day 2, here where I said scum loverizer did not logistically make sense. That is in no way "shoving my ability" as town.
  
  
  [c]
  Saying I "refused to explain" why I chose her and wasn't answering her questions: In the same post as above, farside says that I refused to explain why I chose her. Despite the fact that I explained here and here and here and here. She has also stated over and over that I have refused to answer her questions or explain things yet when I ask her to clarify what she wants me to answer she doesn't tell me. She keeps saying I haven't presented a case or I don't care about this game which makes me scum. I have posted 145 posts in this game. I have responded to everything anyone has asked of me unless I missed it. If I did, please point it out to me and I will answer. I have also pointed out things I think are scummy in lots of people farside, dgb, UT, Marky Mark. I have also stated things that I have found townie in Hostile Intent, Aegor, and T-bone. How again am I not engaged or not making cases? No, I am not posting walls like this. I do a lot of phoneposting from work and on my iPad these days. I don't sit at the computer much because it's pretty inconvenient so walls don't happen as much. And don't even try to use Oldies mafia as a counter example. That game was completely different as I felt a huge load on my shoulder as an outed-mason to do my due dilligence in helping town (spoiler alert: I didn't).

These are my primary problems with farside. These are the reasons I am voting her and will continue to vote her until one of us exit this game. I am not going to argue with her anymore. I am quite frankly bored of it. I will answer her questions if she can post them in a legible format. If anyone else has any questions, please feel free to ask. If you want to vote me, do that too. I really think it is best to get myself or farside out of this game because we are a distraction and that is exactly what scum will keep pushing.

[Untrod Tripod]

sociopaths are great in bed though

that explains why girls like me, I guess

[farside22]

kurbio's lack of anything since he replaced.

yah because i would lurk like a motherfucker as scum since i hate being scum right



fuck outta here with that

You are not exactly scum hunting either.
Do you do that as town.

[farside22]

In regards to juls case in post 1112.

1) is all WIFOM about what scum would do or she thinks scum would do. There was no good case she presented day 2 and no one agreed with her reason. Why would scum go with a lynch that only she pushed? Why does that not go into her thought process? My view is not being dead makes juls scum or scum want the fighting to continue.

2) this comment is what I mean about lining up lynches. As I stated clearly, I know I'm town and if juls is saying I should be lynched. What happens day four when I flip town? She will attacked HI with the same theory of one must be scum. I don't see town motivation.

3) I asked juls oppinion of day 3 that caused her to make this statement:

And I have explained why I think HI is scum. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I want you or HI lynched as I think one or both will be scum. If mafia doesn't kill one in the night you can guarantee 1 or more are scum. Play it how you choose. I can't neighborize again until night 3 so if you want to lynch me I am fine with that. I just wanted to be able to give some amount of information. My job is done as far as I can see.

Why the assumption that all players voting me were town? I mean players voted you, t/bone and ika. All it reads when you say you are going with those that people are most suspicious of, you read as kissing ass and not scum hunting.

It does no explain why you did not pick t-bone. It does not explain why if you did not have other scum reads you felt the need to place a player at l-1 to get more reads.
It explains nothing but it reads as an attempt to buddy players while not explaining a scum read.


My case on juls will be later.

[farside22]

Day 3 should be day 1 in the above.

[zoraster]

Day 3

farside22 ( 2 )

Juls

Albert B. Rampage

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(L - 5 )

kuribo ( 2 )

Marky Mark

farside22

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(L - 5 )

Untrod Tripod ( 1 )

Aegor

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(L - 6 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 5 )

kuribo T-Bone Untrod Tripod AurorusVox Hostile Intent

Total Votes ( 10 )

Needed to Lynch [ 7 ]

Deadline: Oct. 23rd at 20:00 EDT

[Marky Mark]

Post 1060 reads as very have my cake and eat it too. Add Marky Mark to my scum list.

Oh, and two words with regard to DGB vs. farside and a bus: day talk

Where have I said ABR is scum or I want him lynched? If I weren't vote parking on farside you would have my vote.

I can't tell if you're scum or just completely up the wrong tree. I never said ABR was scummy, I was referring to the fact that when somebody else said they did you told them to vote UT, (not ABR) which makes no sense as if ABR is scum he would probs be lying about his role so no reason not to vote him directly as voting UT could risk the death of an innocent. As to eating cake, I don't have a clue what that is supposed to mean.

As to Kuribo's RL issues, you have my sympathies but being busy outside the game does not preclude you from being scum and you are playing as I would expect scum-you to play. If you are busy then don't promise reads etc. in the first place.

I also didn't have any other strong scum reads but wanted to use the ability anyway.

So basically your main justification for using your ability was just that you wanted to use it?

I probably ought to read through the farside/juls 1v1 with closer scrutiny as the lack of a NK on the lovers is making me think that if Juls isn't scum then farside could well be (but ofc this could just be scum wifoming us into lynching the lovers). If it wasn't for the fact that voting Kuribo is probably the only way to get content-full responses out of him then I would switch to Juls.

[Untrod Tripod]

fuckit

vote Juls

I want this

[farside22]

@UT: still waiting on this:

I still think her ability and the justification for its use was really scummy

my other scumread is kuribo but HAHAHAHAHAHA like that's gonna happen right now

Vote: kuribo

Why not. That's all it take.
Marky's got a vote on him.
There was hiplop' comment when he was around and kurbio's lack of anything since he replaced.

Also would like to know why you are scum reading kuribo

[Albert B. Rampage]

A vote for farside is a vote for scum.

[Juls]

In regards to juls case in post 1112.

1) is all WIFOM about what scum would do or she thinks scum would do. There was no good case she presented day 2 and no one agreed with her reason. Why would scum go with a lynch that only she pushed? Why does that not go into her thought process? My view is not being dead makes juls scum or scum want the fighting to continue.

My point is that scum would have pushed the lynch, not just me. You can call it WIFOM a thousand times but that is all we do in this game: determine what scum would or wouldn't do and use those determinations to form our reads. The use of "WIFOM" to discount an argument is so overused on this site and has lost all meaning if you say everything speculative is WIFOM.

2) this comment is what I mean about lining up lynches. As I stated clearly, I know I'm town and if juls is saying I should be lynched. What happens day four when I flip town? She will attacked HI with the same theory of one must be scum. I don't see town motivation.

Yet again you assume I am going after Hostile Intent despite the fact that I think he is town. If you aren't scum then I fucked up and I was wrong. I will likely be lynched and the game will be over. This is part of the reason I have been begging since yesterday for you all to lynch myself or farside. We are 2/3 of the content in this thread and therefore a lot of information is to be gained. DGB shouldn't have been the lynch yesterday; it should have been me or farside.

3) I asked juls oppinion of day 3 that caused her to make this statement:

And I have explained why I think HI is scum. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I want you or HI lynched as I think one or both will be scum. If mafia doesn't kill one in the night you can guarantee 1 or more are scum. Play it how you choose. I can't neighborize again until night 3 so if you want to lynch me I am fine with that. I just wanted to be able to give some amount of information. My job is done as far as I can see.

Why the assumption that all players voting me were town? I mean players voted you, t/bone and ika. All it reads when you say you are going with those that people are most suspicious of, you read as kissing ass and not scum hunting.

I never said "all" players pushing you were town. I said "some". You keep going back to my decision on day one to loverize you/HI. I get it, you disagree with that decision as do others. That doesn't mean that I am scum.

It does no explain why you did not pick t-bone. It does not explain why if you did not have other scum reads you felt the need to place a player at l-1 to get more reads.
It explains nothing but it reads as an attempt to buddy players while not explaining a scum read.

There are a lot of people I didn't pick, 9 others. The fact is that I chose you, get over it already. You have been going through the thread saying I haven't answered you and I haven't explained why I chose you and those things are patently false. You use my vote on ika as if it is a reason I was scummy but I didn't lynch him, I put a vote down to gather information. That is not scummy. Again, it is what we do in this game to get information. Basically, your reasons for calling me scum are fabricated. They are not real and that is the main reason why you are scum. Points 1 and 2 aside, you are scum for point 3 and you failed to address any of it but instead just repeat things you have said a hundred times.

[T-Bone]

Why the heck did you protect UT from a lynch ABR??

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't submit an action, and the mod randomized me to select UT. DGB's lynch yesterday was bull. You guys need to listen to Juls if you want a shot at winning this game.