Mini 1602: Game Over

[Bert]

Like not town reading me in that game

Lol.

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sthar8
Mafia Scum


Joined : April 29, 2008
Location: Eastern Washington
Pronoun: He
Post #1374 (ISO) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:31 pm
I could lynch konowa or bert. Not voting until Guy's caught up.
GTKASthar!
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sthar8
Mafia Scum


Joined : April 29, 2008
Location: Eastern Washington
Pronoun: He
Post #1385 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:03 am
Konowa's scum from VCA and bert's claim is teh garbaege. I don't want to derphammer and cut someone off, but I'm ready to end the day.
GTKASthar!
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Also the day before that I was never a townread, just a "let's not lynch today"

Ten u asked me to claim target

And you never specified why Or if I was town about a single thing

[Bert]

I know that basicly all of my votes since Day2 have terrible and the lack of my posts is not a good sign as well. In spite of these I still have questions.

First of all, what is Notscience?
Because, this is a Friendly Neighbour: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... y_Neighbor
And this is a Neigbourizer: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer

According to MalaKittyPryde's play, he's the first one. However, according to Notscience's post (1036) he's the second one.
Besides MalaKitty, whom did you target, Notscience?

I'm recommending your lynch tomorrow

Why are you only asking questions

Either friendly neighborizer or neighbor should be similar

I'm guessing friendly neighbor and neighborizer are combined

So that Mala and notscience had a QT. And Mala was alerted of notscience alignment

Does that makes sense?

[Aneninen]

The color of Malakitty's name tells me that NPIAU's claim is legit. His Nacho-choice escapes me, though.

Bert.
Shouldn't we ask Notscience about the specifications of his role instead of guessing whether they had a QT or not?
Why do you recommend my lynch TOMORROW? Why not TODAY if you think I'm scum?

[notscience]

Hey ane

I'm a dog breeder

i got me a pug here

and a beagle there

they wish to fornicate

what will the offspring be?

[Aneninen]

Notscience, I don't know the answer. I'll ask my Sweetheart's mother she's a dog cosmetic. ^_^
Nevertheless, I understand you. Apart from Kitty, whom did you target?

[notscience]

Noone

it was 1-shot

[Bert]

Tomoro because the chance of your lynch today is 0.

[Bert]

Anen could you write me a wonderful 500 word essay

About why you think I'm scum?

[Aneninen]

Bert. Why should I write an essay? Where have I posted that I think you're the remaining scum? Besieds, I try to avoid posting essays. None of my games has shown so far that it has been working.

Notscience. Okay, that makes sense. Not because of you. Because of Kitty's play.

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So, what have we got here?
Notscience and NPIAU are pretty much confirmed.
This means, it's either Bert or Sthar8. The problem is that I can't proove that I'm town, apart from being a Vanilla Townie I can claim nothing.

One of us shall be lynched Today. If it's the scum, yippie! If not, the other two will be there at LyLo, most probably with Notscience. These two will try to convince that the other one is scum. So, Notscience, start collecting everything about Bert, Sthar8 and me.

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Right now, I think Sthar8 is scum. There are a couple of things which might confirm this.

(1) This game got stalled plenty of times, sometimes at strange moments, eg. before deadline. I posted it before that I had find it significant. A game can be stalled when none of the scums are suspected and they don't need to do anything to move the game on. This hypothesis would be bullshyt if Bert were scum. There were constant FoS-es and votes for him.

(2) AGar's selfhammer. Bert could have found anything else instead of voting for AGar. Just check out his Day4! He was discontent with my gameplay – yet he voted for AGar quite early. If he were scum, he could have started a case against me very easily. It's sure that he might have bussed AGar – but, if there had been a mislych the scums would be at LyLo right now. It might make sense if the busser had much town credit and it definitely doesn't fit Bert. Sthar had been pretty inactive before that. AGar might have been afraid that Sthar's certain activity (eg. by launching a counter-case) would have drawn unnecessary attention to Sthar. Also, Sthar posted only a naked vote for Bert, he did nothing Yesterday.

(3) The Nacho-kill. Do you remember this?

"Vote: AGar. Sthar is the other one, fwiw"

. What if Sthar thought that Nacho had been the Cop? In this case... the Nightkill makes perfect sense.

[sthar8]

1. I've been fighting against town apathy as often as I could. Go read my iso.
2. you have confirmed knowledge that I was sick and V/LA all last week.
3. if nacho had been a cop, killing him at night would have confirmed me as scum. If I were scum, he'd still be alive.

[notscience]

I won't be doing much of anything until sunday js.

[Aneninen]

Notscience: that's a pity.

Sthar: (1) and (2) are not alignment tells.
As for (3)...

"if nacho had been a cop, killing him at night would have confirmed me as scum. If I were scum, he'd still be alive."

Wait-oh.
A Cop-Nacho would have claimed his role if he had known both of the scums. In that case the game would have been won.
A Cop-Nacho might have done the thing he had done if he had known only one scum. In that case the remaining scum must have got rid of him because Nacho's next investigation might have been lethal to him.
I think the scum thought that Nacho might be Cop. In this case, anyone could have killed Nacho, so as to WIFOM-ize the game. Namely, something like this might (have) happen(ed) Today: "so, Nacho flipped Cop, he had told that Sthar had been scum, therefore Sthar is scum... unless someone else is scum and killed Nacho because we may think that Sthar killed him..."
In short (3) proves nothing.

[nopointinactingup]

I wish I had a scum-read right now

[Bert]

HOLY GUACAMOLE RAVIOLI!!

Spoiler: <333333

I must refrain from posting during the late night...it's tempting to because I was inactive for the past two game days unless it was during the night...I'm not going to read my own whining, but you're welcome to!!!

[Bert]

Hi! Too lethargic atm but

Spoiler: voodoo

Here to field questions...will answer Saturday morning if any are fielded and thrown my way



Anen's latest two posts - I don't follow the "Nacho cop possibility" part

But I like that you asserted yourself so that's a plus.

The reasoning however, that I may be town because of how I voted Agar, is flimsy for me.

How does my voting pattern outweigh how weak my answers/posts are to you? The last few game days you have been less than impressed with my answers

Also, what were your reads on my r predecessor Phok? And sthar's predecessor?

Wait I'll look that up after I wake up

How much do those reads of replaced players influence your currentt reads?

/mobile

[Bert]

Star now that I pulled up how you have never "townread" me "correctly," after you said you did -

It does not surprise me that you have no answer to my evidence of that old game.

With that said Your lack of visible re-evaluation is worrying

[Bert]

Last post sorry. Anywas I'm still thinking Anen is scum.

However I'm surprised Anen isn't trying to take me out today if scum though

Because I've made it clear that the player I have extensive past old game experience with is likely alive tomorrow as conftown barring things not being/going the way they seem, and Anen-scum has a much easier road to victory in 3P LYLO in a 1v1 with sthar.

[SleepyKrew]

VC 5.02

sthar8

(1) - notscience

Aneninen

(1) - Bert

Bert

(1) - sthar8

Not Voting

(2) - nopointinactingup, Aneninen

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Day 5 deadline will hit in: (expired on 2014-10-22 15:08:28).

[nopointinactingup]

Let's end this day
VOTE: sthar

[Aneninen]

@Bert. Phokdapolees wasn't amongst my scumreads. As far as I can remember, I thought he might be scum but he was never on the "top of my scumlist". Rack's early play was pretty strange, but I thought he might be town beacuse of the very quick emergence of his wagon.
However, I don't think anyone has ever examined Day1 again. We should do so, since we know that both Flames/Neil and AGar were scums. As soon as I have time I'll do so because I'm the only one who was here that time.

You think that I'm scum but you're wrong. (And I'd tell you the same if I were scum. I know that.) I don't want to vote for you because there are more things against Sthar8.

By the way I'm pretty sure that I'll be better than I was in Muskoka Murder Mystery. I wouldn't say that my gameplay was terrible there. I only say that a wiki-article could be written out of my gameplay with a title like this: "How NOT to play Mafia". ^_^

@Everyone.
Even if I think Sthar is scum, I want to examine both his and Bert's slot again. I don't want to f-ck everything up.

[Bert]

Okay. I'll look at Day 1 today as well.

[Bert]

Anen, two questions for ya! TWO Q's

(1) Why did you wait until after sthar reached Lynch -1 to say that you think sthar is scum?

(2) This below quote felt so nervy/nervous. Why do you think you look terrible right now? I don't understand the timing because no one else other than myself is scumreading you.

Shyt, ignore that, there is only one vote for me. I thought there were two.
And this confirms that I've still been unable to read everything carefully.

I know that I look terrible now but please, at least let me post before lynching me. Okay?

[sthar8]

Star now that I pulled up how you have never "townread" me "correctly," after you said you did -

It does not surprise me that you have no answer to my evidence of that old game.

With that said Your lack of visible re-evaluation is worrying

That is actually bullshit.

When I replaced into BPC's game you had a minor wagon on you based on you not playing in the fucking game. I unvoted and asked you why you were playing so terribly. The only way I could know that you were playing like shit instead of trying to win as scum was to be scumreading you. I came back to being ok with your lynch because YOU DIDNT PROTECT THE OBVIOUS AND CLAIMED INVESTIGATIVE ROLE and PARTICIPATED IN THE SHITTIEST, WORST QUICKLYNCH OF OBVIOUS TOWN I HAVE EVER SEEN. But the next day, despite having doubts about you I wound up voting WITH YOU on a scumlynch.

So yes, that is what the game looks like when you strip out all the context and my actions. But in the REAL world, where I live, I figured out that you were playing one of the shittiest, dumbest, worst games of mafia I had ever seen and DID NOT LYNCH you for it. Also known as CORRECTLY TOWNREADING.

Your false dichotomy between me and Anen today is bullshit. Your opening the lynch pool to include NP was bullshit. Your burst of energy, the only one you've had in the game, coming just before lylo right after your partner's lynch when someone suspects you, is bullshit.

Bert is scum. You guys are being morons.

[Bert]

Your false dichotomy between me and Anen today is bullshit. Your opening the lynch pool to include NP was bullshit. Your burst of energy, the only one you've had in the game, coming just before lylo right after your partner's lynch when someone suspects you, is bullshit.

You guys are being morons.

Yeah, this vitriol doesn't really belong in this game. This last post just calls all of my posts out without explaining why. Just attaching "bullshit" next to all my posts? I don't see town motivation behind any of that.

I've had enough.

VOTE: sthar8

Hope Nacho was right about you. Sayonara. And if somehow you're town, I'll take my chances that I can continue to connect with notscience who I know reads me very well and can figure me out in a potential LYLO.

[Bert]

I mean, if you're not going to have an open mind to at least evaluate anything, then there is really no point

I didn't even come in planning to vote you tonight. I was going to use a few more days to look at things