Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Anatole Kuragin]

There could just as easily have been two and he was fishing for towncred, and lynches on lissa/ft.

which would have inevitably led to a lynch of either him or baboon.

And the same situation we're in now wrt to remaining neighbors.

And hesitation to lynch him based on it.

[Cutty Shark]

Yeah I mean the 'are there really two scum in the same hood' was gonna come up no matter what 5-off did or didn't do

-b

[Cutty Shark]

So if there are indeed two scum in that hood it's just intrinsically beneficial for that faction due to site meta

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

So if there are indeed two scum in that hood it's just intrinsically beneficial for that faction due to site meta

-b

I'm not big on assuming that there is at most one scum in the hood. Consider the possibility that the scum is lynched early. That confirms three townies as town. I also wouldn't discount 5-Off gambiting saying that there is scum in the hood to create an either/or scenario with himself and Baboon. That way if one is lynched, the other looks good.

Another thing I wanted to talk about was that I think Mara believed FT to be a third party. Perhaps the scumteam received info that there was a third party and that's why her push on FT felt so genuine because she actually believed it.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Anatole, why are you ignoring my concerns?

Also, claim your role - the entirety of it.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Also, I want some serious contribution from Majiffy and am very okay with lynching him unless he delivers content.

[fferyllt]

@Majiffy your slot has been a nonentity for half the game so far. Please do something about that.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Anatole, why are you ignoring my concerns?

Also, claim your role - the entirety of it.

I've claimed the entirety of my role multiple times

[Anatole Kuragin]

I am Maximillian, Magician Magnifique. I have an action called <Magic Trick> - if I am holding an item I have a vig kill that presumably goes through all protection.

[Anatole Kuragin]

So Anatole unlocks a vig by getting an item in a game where there are already 2 killing factions? So at maximum 3 kills in a mini. I don't like that and I'm not buying it.

Also, me and Ffery are town, Cutty and Nashville are definitely not group scum and I felt Ffery made good points about why Bork isn't the SK either. That leaves Majiffy, Anatole, and Oka.

How do you want me to address this? By saying, "uh, sorry that's the role I got?"

[Cutty Shark]

So if there are indeed two scum in that hood it's just intrinsically beneficial for that faction due to site meta

-b

I'm not big on assuming that there is at most one scum in the hood. Consider the possibility that the scum is lynched early. That confirms three townies as town. I also wouldn't discount 5-Off gambiting saying that there is scum in the hood to create an either/or scenario with himself and Baboon. That way if one is lynched, the other looks good.

Another thing I wanted to talk about was that I think Mara believed FT to be a third party. Perhaps the scumteam received info that there was a third party and that's why her push on FT felt so genuine because she actually believed it.

Yeah I get that; I'm just saying that I'm considering 2 aligned scum in that hood to be a statistically less viable option based on what I know of site meta. It's going to factor into my read of Majiffyslot and there's really nothing I can (or arguably should) do about that.

The fact that we have some overarching narrative of that Forrest dude getting help from other sources in the station leads me to believe that he probably does not have help from two interns because it's just

not as interesting

: more likely an intern and someone else. That's a more minor point but I think a salient one nonetheless.

-b

[fferyllt]

from a narrative perspective what is Nashville's role?

[Cutty Shark]

I don't understand the question (if it was even to me)

-b

[fferyllt]

it is directed to you (and to Nashville if it isn't already answered), in that maybe you know? You've got that cool list going.

Interns, on air personalities, techies, executives. What is the narrative aspect of Nashville's role? How are they connected to the station? Are they a news cameraman? something else?

[Cutty Shark]

oh!

they claimed cameraman. That's all I know.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Updated w/ Flavor

Interns

Baboon Pride <Intern> (Mafia Neighbor)

FourTrouble <Intern> (Town Neighbor)

- killed by murder flavor

Lissa <Intern> (Town Neighbor)

- killed by murder flavor
Majiffy <Intern> (claim: Informed Town Neighbor - scum in group)

Okapoka <Executive> (assumedly in charge of station's programming)> (claim: Informed Townie - has flavor info about people who work on the air at the station)

People who work on the air at the station

IHNC <Comedian> (Town 1x Bulletproof)

The Fonz <Minister> (Town ??? Visiting Role)

Cutty Shark <Action Star>(claim: roleblock-immune townie with no innate actions)
Anatole <Magician> (claim: item-enabled roleblock-immune vigilante)

Honey Bee <CEO> (Mafia Goon)

Nashville Dreams <Cameraman> (claim: Some watcher/tracker type of thing)

fferyllt <Tech Person> (Town Mason)

F-16 <Tech Person> (Town Mason)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

How likely is it that there are three killing roles in a Mini?

[Cutty Shark]

Considering the level of swing we've experienced already, low?

Worst case scenario when AK is telling the truth assuming mafia sk also exist:

start (9-3-1) [there pretty much have to be three mafia members since BP died and there are two kills neither of which AK has claimed responsibility for as a vig]
town lynched D1 (8-3-1), nashville gives camera to AK so he has it N1 (unlikely, but possible)
mafia, sk, vig all shoot town N1 (5-3-1)
even town lynching correctly at this point (5-2-1) on D2
can result in them losing parity on D3 (3-2-1) leading to shitty kingmaker situations

-b

[Cutty Shark]

AK can you shoot every night while you have an item?

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Like the fact that we can already lose with a SINGLE mislynch is not mitigated by putting MORE killing roles in the game

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Even my super crazy fuckswing touhou game wasn't THAT swingy

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Losing IHNC in the way we did really, really hurt us.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Yeah if this was 6-1-1 we'd have a definite ML even with worst case NKs tonight.
5-1-1 could lead to 2-1-1 tomorrow which requires a NL to even have a shot at winning.

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Pretty much agree with those numbers. That's sort of what I was thinking but hadn't laid down the possibilities.

I'd hate it if Anatole is mislynched just through setup spec though. But he's still in my POE pool and several players are townier.

Going to wait to see what Majiffy contributes before voting.

Also, one thing that worries me about Oka is that he's an executive which are supposed to be scum (although I guess scum would receive fake-claims so it doesn't mean anything). I wish he would explain the 5-Off read beyond gut or even respond to that ISO of 5-Off I posted.

[Cutty Shark]

an executive which are supposed to be scum

I have heard this multiple times before this (I think mostly from Titus) and still don't understand where anyone got this from

-b