Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Cutty Shark]

Meanwhile

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... rt_order=d

Not an accident

And yeah I think VCA kinda blows and have had zero success using it. Kind of like you're having right now.

-b

[Majiffy]

Oh wow one post with a passing unquantified statement.

Yeah, strong argument in favor of Majiffy-Does-Meta.

[Majiffy]

Excuse me if I'm unconvinced by your following argument

Majiffy said a year ago I looked like scum because I wasn't posting much and he was right.
I am posting a lot a year later in this game.

Majiffy should be townreading me.

[Cutty Shark]

...

I am just fucking flabbergasted that you're scumreading me and are rebuffing my attempts to rectify it.

Let me know if you want to have a substantive conversation but this is clearly not being productive

-b

[Cutty Shark]

Dude, it's a common theme in all my scumgames. Like literally every one. I just don't have the chops for it.

But whatever, do your thing man.

-b

[Majiffy]

I mean you

do

realize how weak your argument is, right?

[fferyllt]

Considering I replaced in several days ago and this just opened today...?

You're dumb.

just opened today? what are you talking about? The game day started about 3 days after you replaced in.

I'll cede the point though, if you like.

I think you would have at least scoped the game day enough to figure out who an easy mislynch would be if you're scum, though. If you're SK, then you kinda need for there to be a scum player alive to go after tomorrow, rather than lynched today.

Plus there's a fair bet of setup info that suggests you couldn't be groupscum.

[Cutty Shark]

I mean you do realize how weak your argument is, right?

Dude this started as a reach out so I'm gonna try to keep it that way, and it might be a weak argument for some people. It isn't for me.

I can't approach you from the VCA angle since there's nothing to approach (except 'why isn't it AK bussing') so I'm trying something that you actually might recognize

I've seen you townread me super fucking early tons of times based off my posting. I am asserting it should be equally easy to do that here.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

But duly noted: I will never pull out the meta card again with you.

-b

[Majiffy]

just opened today? what are you talking about? The game day started about 3 days after you replaced in.

That would probably explain the prod.

[Cutty Shark]

Subject: Mini 1558 - VisCon: Crossroads [Game Over]

Hi bork. Good to see you're town as all hell.

More stuff I was thinking about. I think I have pretty fucking justifiable precedent.

I was expecting that kind of shit. I wasn't expecting we'd get off to the worst start humanly fucking possible.

But since you don't want to talk about meta; what does voting patterns are too comfy mean or whatever the fuck

-b

[Majiffy]

Subject: Mini 1558 - VisCon: Crossroads [Game Over]

Hi bork. Good to see you're town as all hell.

More stuff I was thinking about. I think I have pretty fucking justifiable precedent.

I was expecting that kind of shit. I wasn't expecting we'd get off to the worst start humanly fucking possible.

But since you don't want to talk about meta; what does voting patterns are too comfy mean or whatever the fuck

-b

AK has followed both flipped scum immediately on one-vote wagons. If they're all groupscum, that means 2/3 scum voted together on wagons all by themselves each day.

Really really unlikely.

[Majiffy]

Nashville Dreams(2):

5-Off,

I have no creativity

Honey bee

(7):

gossamer wings,

FourTrouble

, Anatole Kuragin, Cutty Shark,

Lissa,

fferyllt,

The Fonz

FourTrouble

(1):

Baboon Pride

AnatoleKuragin(1):

Honey bee

Csareo(1):

Nashville Dreams

Not Voting(1):

Csareo

But really, all 3 scum off the wagon? On a wagon on scum? That seemingly came out of nowhere? With viable CWs previously in existence?

It was way too well-lubed for a wagon on scum D1 to not have a bus.

[Cutty Shark]

Unfortunately it is even less likely for my role PM to magically morph into a scum role PM

Jiffy I can't fucking do anything on these stances you're taking other than just say 'actually you're wrong because I'm town.' Which I am, but this line of argument is obviously useless. At the same time, I don't care about your VCA here - if it leads to me scum then it's just fucking wrong and I'm trying other avenues to get you to see that I'm town, one of which is to ISO me this game.

AK could easily be scum here; he has a claimed vig thing that he's yet been unable to verify, partially because of Nashville not giving him an item, but I don't think a vig really fits this setup. He thinks I'm town to a degree of certainty that he's not even considering me for last scum which pings me as a little odd.

Also if you're interested in Honey Bee wagon momentum, look at all the stuff Fonz posted about it D2, which paints a very different picture than what you have.

Not sure what else to do for you other than tell you to dig way deeper in this game than you seem to be willing to.

-b

[Cutty Shark]

k man I'm done with the reachouts and that's fucking sad.

-b

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

VOTE: Cutty

Someone had to bus D1 and I don't think it was Anatole.

Why don't you think it was Anatole?

Voting patterns with Baboon and Honey are too comfy.

Elaborate on this. What do you mean by "comfy?"

[Cutty Shark]

Just thought of something:

@Nashville: I actually think if we don't lynch AK that the camera should probably go to him, OR you need to use it yourself on someone unconfirmed (me/oka/majiffy/AK). If we hit scum, he can verify his role with two kills, and if we hit town we can verify it with three. He could also shoot scum which would save the game at that point.

I think giving it to ffery or F-16 might not be as useful as you think because if they die we may get no info from it AND lose a confirmed town. If we don't do that, scum has to pick between those two benefits for them.

-b

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Cutty

Someone had to bus D1 and I don't think it was Anatole.

Why don't you think it was Anatole?

Voting patterns with Baboon and Honey are too comfy.

Elaborate on this. What do you mean by "comfy?"

Already did.

Check the ISO, it's short.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

AK has followed both flipped scum immediately on one-vote wagons. If they're all groupscum, that means 2/3 scum voted together on wagons all by themselves each day.

AK was hard scumreading Baboon. I find it odd for him to follow Baboon onto a one vote wagon if he were town.

[OkaPoka]

dodge.

i think nash is scum still

[fferyllt]

Will you please respond to F16's questions?

[OkaPoka]

honestly 5off is more null for me now after looking over his iso. It seems pretty strong but if he was gambiting part of my town read is gone. Yet why would majiffy admit that? The slot is town.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I'm going to compile a few pieces of Anatole meta in the next few posts.

Here's Anatole bussing his buddy InflatablePie in Timeshift Mafia (the game he is basing his meta of Tammy and Mara from):

I still think the bane/tammy slot is town, in addition to Pants, Targ, & Peregrine. I would vote for Pie actually, seems like he's cast a lot of doubt without actually following up on suspicions, and seems like with the Targ vote he's trying to get this (admittedly, grueling) day over with as soon as possible especially because anyone with a brain can see that Targaryen is innocent.

#1138 definitely feels like he is trying to undermine Tammy, who is starting to take a confident/leadership role since the replacement.

VOTE: InflatablePie

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

honestly 5off is more null for me now after looking over his iso. It seems pretty strong but if he was gambiting part of my town read is gone. Yet why would majiffy admit that? The slot is town.

Who is scum then?

And if I recall correctly, you were townreading him based on his scumhunting not his role.

[OkaPoka]

so f-16 you are a mason with who again?

Yeah i don't know why anymore.

Nashville, Anatole, maybe Ffery?