Mini 1608--Mafia on the Air(Fin)

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Nashville

[Cutty Shark]

So Majiffy...

[Cutty Shark]

VOTE: anatole

deadline coming

Why not us or Nashville?
Also lol deadline is 3 days away

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Part of me wants to lynch Majiffy just because I feel that nothing makes sense from a town POV but they make sense if he wants to let Anatole get lynched today and continue going after Nashville/Cutty.

The thing is I can't figure out which of Oka/Anatole/Majiffy are town. None of them feel like it.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Majiffy, explain your townread on Anatole.

[fferyllt]

Part of me agrees with you about Majiffy.

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: anatole

deadline coming

Why not us or Nashville?
Also lol deadline is 3 days away

I can go with Nash too.

You guys only if Anatole/Nashville or not viable.

[Cutty Shark]

So you'd be willing to lynch us even though you don't think we're scum, and a mislynch could fuck us over?

[OkaPoka]

When did I say you aren't scum?

[Cutty Shark]

You think there are three scum?

[OkaPoka]

No.

But what if I'm wrong with my picks of scum?

[fferyllt]

why would you compromise lynch in this situation?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Continuing with my ISO of Anatole:

I don't feel compelled to point out the fourth vote is RVS by Fonz and one of his three total posts

I'm not asking you to deconstruct the wagon. I'm asking you to deconstruct the argument that 4T is scum. I don't care what you think of the players who agree.

I more or less pointed out that your reasons for voting him were shit in my above post. It's not my job to show that he is town, just that he's not the scummiest option to vote. The burden of proof if on the 4t wagon and none of the cases are remotely convincing.

You've done no such thing. All you said that I was attacking the playstyle and not his alignment and I'm not...?

Pushing an easy target isn't a playstyle quirk
Realizing that you could be doing an OMGUS, and keeping yourself from doing so isn't a playstyle quirk
Proactivity is generally towny. I note he lacked that
Reactivity is generally scummy. I noted that the majority of his posts were reactive

where is the playstyle bash?

The argument about his proactivity came across to me as criticizing his playstyle with "I do this, you didn't so you are scum" reasoning. You make the point that he asks for help and you DEMAND it like that is an inherently towny trait. That came across as just aggressive bullshitting to me. I see what you're saying more with the proactivity vs. reactivity tautology spelled out for a simpleton like me.

You're still operating with the "generally" modifier and that's a pretty big generally. I think all of us have seen plenty of aggressive/proactive scum and passive/reactive townies. The easy target thing is a salient point.

This post shows a level of depth in scumhunting that I find it hard to believe Anatole thought Mara was scum for the reasoning he used earlier (the one that Cutty knocked down).

[OkaPoka]

Because we have 2 conftowns.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

@Ak: what was your lissa reason because of? Sorry if I missed it.

Her early posts gave me an artificial vibe - and dropping an RVS vote then later justifying it as a real case because 4t got some traction on him then the way she and baboon are townreading eachother (Baboon mentions she is townreading Lissa more times than Lissa has posts I think) made me think they make a lot of sense as a scum team.

I'm holding off on her because the neighborhood people said that her actions in response to the scum/hood reveal were legit, then her being in the neighborhood could also explain the artificial feeling to her posts (since she's posting content elsewhere) and her predilection for baboon and vice versa.

I don't like that you are already making associations with Baboon so early on in the game. Baboon is townreading Lissa and that makes you suspect Lissa?

I guess it also makes sense if you are so sure about one of them and emotionally invested in that read but you seemed to be fairly distant from it so I don't get the certainty.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

* suspect Lissa more.

(I know you had independent reasons for suspecting Lissa)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Gossamer and Fonz are townreads.

Why is Fonz a townread? Also, I asked this before but you haven't specifically pointed what Tammy-posts felt similar to her posts in Timeshift. I see Tammy in Timeshift aggressivly pushing lynches, melting down at Bert, and posting lots of analysis upon replacing in. I'm not seeing any similarities in her posting at the point where you replaced in.

[fferyllt]

Because we have 2 conftowns.

This is MYLO/LYLO.

[Cutty Shark]

Since when did Oka even have reads

[Cutty Shark]

And why are you (Oka) townreading Majiffy?
Why are you scumreading Nashville?

[Cutty Shark]

Let's throw in: What's your read on us?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I could get behind that lynch. Honey Bee is giving me pretty similar vibes to Lissa.

Why did you never mention Honey Bee before this then?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I won't pretend I'm doing any great scumhunting or that I have any great insight. All I can say is I find Baboon, Honey, and Lissa suspicious for gut reasons. And I know you think it's bullshit but literally any of my town games (they are in my wiki) show that I am pretty much always wrong day one, then go hulk later in the game. I'm 5-0 in town games and this is how every one has worked.

I have some set-up info as far as likely scum roles but they would probably give away what my role - up to you guys if you think I should spill it.

If Anatole had two thirds of the scumteam pegged, why would the scum shoot IHNC and Fonz over him?

[Majiffy]

So Majiffy...

Effort.

Majiffy, explain your townread on Anatole.

Voting patterns just don't make sense with the scumflips.

[Cutty Shark]

Effort.

3 days left, game on the line
Thanks for replacing in