FitzOtter I (Game Over)

[Hostile Intent]

Not on purpose. I thought that said Vox not you.

[Bookitty]

I will likely be busy this evening, but I will check in tomorrow morning at the latest to respond to questions or whatever.

[Untrod Tripod]

Not on purpose. I thought that said Vox not you.

wait what?

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

um

did you just call me scum then tell me to lynch scum?

I'm trying to remember if I believe in perspective slips

[Hostile Intent]

When I looked at the vc I thought it said Vox not UT.

Did you punch her vagina, kuribo?

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

No

[Aegor]

Will actually do substantial stuff tomorrow afternoon.

[Bookitty]

will have more to say tomorrow

Was this as in, tomorrow after we go to night, or yesterday-tomorrow?

And what you guys don't know about female anatomy is a lot. Babies live in the uterus. True fact.

[zoraster]

Day 4

BooKitty ( 3 )

T-Bone

Untrod Tripod

droog

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(L - 2 )

AurorusVox ( 3 )

Hostile Intent

kuribo

BooKitty

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(L - 2 )

Not Voting ( 2 )

AurorusVox Aegor

Total Votes ( 8 )

Needed to Lynch [ 5 ]

Deadline: Oct. 28rd at 20:00 EDT

AV prodded again

[AurorusVox]

Vote: BooKitty

Sorry guys, hectic last week of term getting all the kids exam ready. Off for a week now so should be more active.

The entire fucking scumteam is on Bookitty right now.

Derp. How can they all be on BK when you have me (who hasn't voted) as scum? :s Also, the "It must mean that but I'm too new to say" reeks.

Not sure I like Kuribo pledging his vote to the next poster and then outright ignoring it. Kuribo-BK scum partnership potential increased.

I reckon maybe I was being too tunnel-visioned on Aegor. A Kuribo-BK-HI scumteam is starting to look really viable give the above and the fact that I am nigh certain that one of HI/droog has to be scum (and droog/farside is a lot more town than HI)

[Bookitty]

droog/farside is a lot more town than HI

What makes you think this?

Also, HI, NOW the entire scumteam is on me. :p

[AurorusVox]

I've gone over my reasons for farside town before.

[Bookitty]

Go over your reasons for HI scum, please.

[AurorusVox]

Lack of lover kill = one of them is scum
farside was obvTown = HI is the scum

[Bookitty]

Farside was far from obvtown, as witnessed by the suspicions on her from people who have died and flipped town. Maybe that's how YOU see it, but that's not the general case.

HI asked Juls why she wasn't voting him rather than splitting votes between him and Farside when they were loverised. Why would scum be pushing for their own lynch in that situation, which is essentially what that was?

Meh. I've done my best to scumhunt, but I'm not confident that I'm right. Other than HI and T-Bone, I don't really feel like anyone else is very engaged in the game anyway. Given these facts, I'm kind of okay with being lynched rather than dragging this game out further and waiting around for people to be interested enough to post. It's possible there are only two scum left and we wouldn't lose.

[AurorusVox]

Aegor, why vote HI rather than farside?

I think you'll find that was me asking Aegor. Unless HI asked the same thing? Can you point it out please?

Farside was obvTown from the moment she sought replacement. Maybe I'm nostalgiaTripping here but from what I remember, I don't think farside is the sort of person who would replace out as scum just because she was going to be the first person lynched (which I believe was your argument).

[Bookitty]

My scumreads, not in order:

Untrod Tripod. He claims he was lost and so embarrassed for being wrong to the dead thread. This post simply doesn't ring true to me at all. It's almost like bragging (I'm so sorry I stole your boyfriend -- it was an accident, honestly!) and then his vote on me while carefully avoiding the AV vote... that puts a link between UT and AV that I can't unsee.

AV's reaction to his wagon is... actually, kind of the same as mine to mine. My main case on him is the VCA and then the actions of T-Bone and UT. It's not a great case. His opinion on Farside is misguided, but I'm not sure it's coming from scum motivation. That said, I'm not sure it's not.

I go back and forth on T-Bone; I feel both he and UT are avoiding this thread, which makes me think that they might be scum trying to skate neatly to a win without exposing themselves too much. I see links between these two.

Droog is probably scum, just because I'm pretty sure HI is town and because Droog has refrained from giving any substantial content since his replace in.

I dunno. Gun to my head, I'm just not absolutely sure that AV is scum. I don't see a benefit to my survival over his if he's town. I'd rather have my vote on someone I am more sure is scum, even if it gets me lynched.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Untrod Tripod

[Bookitty]

VOTE: farside

I mean, you're lynching both of us. Wouldn't it be faster to vote for me?

I suppose juls could just jump over I just don't get the splitting here.

There you go.

[AurorusVox]

Hmm. I mean, I'll give credit to HI, he is still contributing, a lot more than droog.

As for his push on DGB, could this be seen as if he is going to be lynched anyway, then he might as well take a town down with him? I do get your point though, that it seems counterintuitive for scum to throw additional focus onto their wagon. Plus his statement wasn't all that committal (nowhere near as direct as my attack on Aegor for example).

Also bear in mind that farside said she thought HI was town, so arguably her aim would be to remove all votes from their wagon, not pile it on. If farside is town, she wouldn't want their lynch to go through - as it would cost two townies if she believes HI to be town. Whereas, if HI sees farside as town, he has essentially consigned two townies to the grave by encouraging more votes on their pairing. OTOH if he sees farside as scum he should surely have been screaming to be unloverized?

I think there are more subtleties at play than you can give credit to with your statement about HI's comment. Did he return to it again after that? Maybe I'm comparing it to my push on Aegor too heavily but I think for him to gain any sort of kamikaze-credit from it, then he would have had to have made more of a deal about it.

I'm interested to look at your ideas of HI/farside more.

[Bookitty]

Okay, there are essentially four possibilities:

HI and Droog (Farside) are both scum.
HI is town and Droog is scum.
Hi is scum and Droog is town.
Both are town.

If HI is town, he won't know for sure that Farside is scum. He may think so based on interactions outside the thread we can see. But he can't know it for sure.

If he's scum, he'll know Farside's alignment.

If Farside is town OR scum, she wouldn't want their lynch to go through. There's no difference in the motivation regardless of alignment; two scum won't want their lynch to go through, two town won't want their lynch to go through, and any scum on the possible two-fer lynch won't want that lynch to go through. The ONLY instance in which you want that lynch to go through is if you are town and you think your Lover is scum. I played a game (and I can find it, but I remember it being long, so be warned) in which I was paired with a scum Lover and I was begging for my own lynch earlier on in the game. Town would almost certainly be willing to trade their one town life for one scum down.

HI, did you think Farside was scum? Or was this just a response to DGB voting Farside at that time?

[Hostile Intent]

Basically I thought she was scum after realizing that a) we weren't dying N2, and b) she was slowly setting up a "scumread" to push on me after her spat with Juls. B is probably wrong though.

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

Not sure I like Kuribo pledging his vote to the next poster and then outright ignoring it. Kuribo-BK scum partnership potential increased.

fuck you, don't ever call my bluff

who is t-bone voting? bookitty?

Unvote

Vote: BooKitty

[Bookitty]

Well, I think that's a lynch on me (could be wrong, but I think so).

Sorry town, I was doing my best.

[Erotic Tales of kuribo]

is it?


welp, see you in hell, etc etc

[zoraster]

Day 4

*** BooKitty ( 5 ) ***

T-Bone

Untrod Tripod

droog

AurorusVox

kuribo

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(L - 0 )

AurorusVox ( 1 )

Hostile Intent

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(L - 4 )

Untrod Tripod ( 1 )

BooKitty

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(L - 4 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 1 )

Aegor

Total Votes ( 8 )

Needed to Lynch [ 5 ]

BooKitty the Town Compulsive Gallant Martyr was lynched

Spoiler: RolePM

Compulsive Gallant Martyr

You are the

Town Compulsive Gallant Martyr

. You must target a player at Night by PMing the moderator. For that Night as well as the following Day, if that player would die, you would die in their stead. That means lynches, night kills, or any other way that a player would die. You may not self-target.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to the town are dead.

Game Thread

The Game Begins at 1pm EDT here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=59156

Night Deadline is Sunday at 20:00 EDT