League of Legends (Old)

[Elmo TeH AzN]

I was called a smurf today. Also.Leona. OP

[Saki]

Alright, ideal build is ionians (for CDR), Hydraa, Banshee's/GA, Youmuu's, IE, and LW. I presume the build path would be Hydraa>Boots>IE>LW/Youmuu's>Youmuu'sLW>Banshee's/GA, right?

path is brut>(hydra/lw)>youmuus>IE/GA

IE should be a later purchase
actually come to think about it bt isn't that bad if you swap it in for IE
the IE/BT item is a slot used for the 80AD so if you want crit that's fine if you want lifesteal that's also fine
just don't get Essence Reaver

you want brut+lw early b/c ArPen rush is ridiculously op
but if you're ahead enough to get brut+tiamat then do it because tiamat is going to stomp lane/let you push their inner in like 15min

[Oman]

Triforce in theory should work on him since he's a pretty crazy duelist early in the game, but in practice I can imagine it being less so.

Actually I see it the other way around after a fair few games I've found it the other way around. Lucian's ult should not be built around, because his ult is trash compared to the rest of his kit. Ghostblade is okay because the stats are nice, I wouldn't call it core, and I would say it's more for dueling potential than for ult damage.

On the other hand, Triforce is DOWN for trading. E-AA-Q-AA-W-AA-E out (or e out earlier if you feel like you've got enough out of it already).

I would only ever do this in SoloQ where I need to win my lane hard and come out with a strong lead and an ability to affect the rest of the map. In team games where you can rely on your teammates to let you actually scale, to get your IE/BF then sure. But farming to BF then Pickaxe is really goddamn hard sometimes in Solo

[BROseidon]

I don't know if I'm right (Bronze disclaimer) but when I'm behind I don't go for an earlier spike, I go for a more efficient spike. If I'm ahead on Lucian I'll build triforce, if I'm behind, I don't want to trade, so I'll build straight into the IE and hope to pick up some kills anyway. Going for an earlier spike only works if you can USE that spike (ie if the spike would make you more powerful than your opponent) otherwise you're better off not trading.

Disclaimer that I have literally only played this champion once, but I've seen that higher ranked players (Diamond through Challenger) almost always go the BotRK -> Ghostblade path. I would imagine that the extra %damage on BotRK scales with his passive well, while both of the item's attack speeds supercharge his ult.

Triforce in theory should work on him since he's a pretty crazy duelist early in the game, but in practice I can imagine it being less so. ADCs have a lower movement speed stat and he has kite/chase potential in two abilities as it is, so the movement speed is less valuable. He also doesn't have any super spammable abilities. His Q will be on a 5 second cooldown with TForce, but he gets CDR from Bork/Ghostblade build, so the extra base damage passive isn't as useful either. Nothing on BotRK is bad for Lucian, though, so it's more efficient to build.

The sad thing I've noticed with the IE->Shiv path is that while it's the single most damaging path to go on... it takes a lot longer to get online than the other standard builds. You're at a significant disadvantage if you have a champion that goes along this path and you're losing the pressure war in the early game than if you went someone who builds a Triforce first, like Ezreal or Corki.

Triforce Lucian is the most fun Lucian.

Ie or BotRK first Lucian is the better Lucian.

[Glork]

Just once I'd like to play a game where none of my teammates lose their lanes 0/5 and try to build pure damage afterwards.

This isn't a troll question, and isn't directed specifically at glork. If you get crushed in lane as ADC should you still be going for the normal path? Is it better to go for something that will spike earlier? should you be building defensively and just give up on damage for a while(but then I think you're useless).

ADC is pretty much the exception to the rule. Mages can kind of get away with it, too. But I'm tired of seeing that 0/7 jungle Kha'Zix building a Hydra after his SotEL, or the 0/2 + down 50cs Nidalee building pure AP out of top.

[animorpherv1]

If I'm behind in lane (and sometimes when I'm ahead and am worried about my midgame against certain champs), I'll rush a defensive item (ex. banshee's vs. lulu, sunfire or frozen heart vs. irelia), followed by my offensive item(s) when i feel like I can survive long enough in fights.

As ADC, I just rush damage anyways. The class is useless with more than one (or two if REALLY needed) defensive options.

[xRECKONERx]

Goddammit, Riot's going to wait to put the last four skins I want up for sale in like the last 24 hours of the sale, aren't they?

Creator Viktor
Pentakill Mordekaiser
Tyrant Swain
Scorched Earth Xerath

[xRECKONERx]

Also, I'm really hoping they announce new skins for any of Elise/Quinn/Skarner/Volibear/Zac/Talon/Twitch/Gnar at some point. Obviously not expecting Gnar for at least a year, but the other 7 all need actual skins that don't suck ass.

[Klazam]

Yorick!

[Saki]

Victorious Elise / Woad Scout Quinn / Renegade/Dragonblade Talon are ok
I

really

don't want them to do to Talon what they did to Yasuo

Skarner/Twitch/Zac/Gnar skins suck ass, yes

but hey Gnar's second to last released champ
(and I feel like ANY skin they come up with for those three is going to suck)

& Volibear looks badass w/o a skin

[Saki]

Yorick!

who plays yorick

[Saki]

Yorick!

who plays yorick

who wants skins on yorick

[Maestro]

lol "Victorious" anything isn't a skin for the general populace, for obvious reasons, and shouldn't be included if you're talking about "skins that are available for X champion that don't suck". What's wrong with Phoenix Quinn? I like it better than Woad Scout, for sure. Dragonblade Talon is a BAMF.

I really don't want them to do to Talon what they did to Yasuo

???

[FakeGod]

gansta twitch is a way of life

[Saki]

ah mb


I don't want a "Mecha" talon skin
the Yasuo skin sucks butt

[Saki]

but it's not like any of the champions reck mentioned have vladimir syndrome

their default skins are ok if not better than most

[Maestro]

the Yasuo skin sucks butt

False.

their default skins are ok if not better than most

Truth.

[Klazam]

Yorick!

who plays yorick

who wants skins on yorick

Me, you horrible person.

This for example would be awesome:

Spoiler:

[dramonic]

Renegade/Dragonblade Talon are ok

Crimson Elite Talon is significantly cooler than both of these

[chamber]

I just want gingerbread man singed.

[Maestro]

Skarner could probably use a VU though. Of all the champions I see once in a blue moon from ye olden days, he's the one that still seems to show signs of waddle syndrome, which I thought was the main reason they reworked Twitch and Karthus. Nobody wants to play a champ that doesn't look like it has legs.

If they ever do a Skarner GU though, I dream that he'd be the first champion to kindof climb up on top of terrain - a giant scorpion thing climbing over the treetops on Rift or over the wall of the Dragon arena would be bad-ass.

PEDIT: What a weird skin, Klaz.

[Klazam]

Crazy cat dude yorick

[Voidedmafia]

If they ever do a Skarner GU though, I dream that he'd be the first champion to kindof climb up on top of terrain - a giant scorpion thing climbing over the treetops on Rift or over the wall of the Dragon arena would be bad-ass.

How would that even

work

?

[Saki]

Contrary to popular belief applying the "Mecha" theme to a champion doesn't automatically make it a good skin

Yorick!

who plays yorick

who wants skins on yorick

Me, you horrible person.

This for example would be awesome:

Spoiler:

I...approve.

[Voidedmafia]

(s)he has to sound like an old granny, though.