Mini 1621: Frog Mafia (KERO)

[Gendaberry]

@Feysal
Yeah, this is my first game of mafia. I've read quite a few games for fun though, but this is my first time joining one.

On another note, this is a prod dodge. I'll post some content in a bit.

[GreyICE]

Yes, I have been prodded.

Anyways, I think Garmr is town, surprisingly. They are in the spotlight and continue to be... different? Not saying I like them, and they are definitely acting anti-town imo, but I see no scum motivation other than WIFOM and distracting town.

I don't know how I feel about massive. He was doing stuff and then wasn't. Meh.

I'm ambivalent about Grey. The previous slot-holders don't give any clues, and Grey's opening didn't do anything for me.

Flubbernugget feels like he's scum, but I don't know why. Looking into it, but is completely gut atm.

Birds sucks.

Everyone else isn't on my radar. Crappy reads, I know, but it's what I have.

It's good to note that everyone is a possible vote except Garmr.

I have a theory guyz

[Jackel98]

How to word townreads in a way that doesn't get me lynched every game?

[GreyICE]

It's interesting you post a wall of null reads with one weak town read in there.

It's interesting you wait so long to post that you're prodded, but as soon as someone questions your towniness you show up immediately to defend yourself. Like you're watching the thread but not posting.

[ProHawk]

I had a quick look at his past games to see who I was dealing with. One observation stood out - Garmr is good at staying alive.

So here is the issue I had with this post. I too had a quick look at his past games, and the one observation that stood out to me was: Garmr is good at not being around at end game. The last six games he had been replaced.

Garmr came in and kinda explained things, which I guess I was just wrong about. BUT

Feysal said he didn't like my initial vote (which was a random vote)

And yet, in my one serious post I said more than you did in your ten.

In your "serious" post we find out that:

A) We are out of RVS and you hate it - Irrelevant
B) Garmr caught your attention, and players that catch your attention are too bold to be scum especially one so highly rated as Garmr. Therefore you feel Garmr is town.
C) You don't know about 2birds.
D) Your

random

real vote on me has turned real because you didn't like my random vote.

In all of my first ten posts, we learn that:

A) I have a cool looking frog - Not super relevant.
B) I think Primate is scum
C) People are trying to pin stuff on me that isn't factual.

I don't really see all that much of a difference but I digress.

[Garmr]

I thought grey ice was better than this oh well what a let down.

[ProHawk]

How the fuck is my name on this list?

Did you not subscribe to that mentality? Your post in which you referred to it made me think you were on board with the consensus...

Why are you still voting Primate?

Because he hasn't done anything that makes me think he is town? His dissonance is his voting tipped me off and I am still reading him as scum. He votes Massive because random. Then sees something that strikes him as scummy, leaves his vote on Massive and states he won't change it because said scummy thing wasn't concrete enough.

[ProHawk]

Hi, I'm scum

Oh cool, easy street.

VOTE: GreyICE

After we are done torturing you, you can give up the others.

/endsarcasm.

Dumb gambit. Calling your bluff. You probably don't like playing scum do you?

[VictorDeAngelo]

Hawk, what do you think of WaffleGhost?

[GreyICE]

Hi, I'm scum

Oh cool, easy street.

VOTE: GreyICE

After we are done torturing you, you can give up the others.

/endsarcasm.

Dumb gambit. Calling your bluff. You probably don't like playing scum do you?

Oooh my.

This needs to die.

But Garmr is sitting right there, being scum.

-_-

[2birds1stone]

Dumb gambit. Calling your bluff. You probably don't like playing scum do you?

If you want to lynch dumb gambits, why have you never voted Garmr?

[Bookitty]

Here, BooKitty, this one's for you:

unvote
vote WaffleGhost

Er.... thank you, I guess?

I don't have an issue with what GreyICE did on his entry to the game. I thought it was funny (not Laugh-Out-Loud funny, WaffleGhost, in answer to your question about LOL). What I did not expect was Flubbernugget's obviously town response to it (I was voting him at the time) and then garmr not reading the thread in any way. It was clear that Flubbernugget was answering GreyICE in kind. It was clear that to make his numbers work, Flubbernugget had to come up with four scum. Garmr either hadn't read GreyICE's initial foray into comedy, he didn't read Flubbernugget's post carefully, it was a comprehension fail or it was a clumsy frame job.

Which was it, Garmr?

What's a little worse to me, though, is Prohawk's determined "I see my opening, by god I'm going to act!" posts. Mistaking that joke for a gambit requires some mental gymnastics I can't follow. I agree with 2birds1stone as well that gambits from Garmr (oooh, TM-ing that) appear all fine with Prohawk; something that wasn't even a gambit from GreyICE imo draws immediate ire and fire.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Prohawk

GreyICE, do you subscribe to Juls' feeling that both 2birds and garmr are scum?

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: garmr

[ProHawk]

Claiming a role and saying, Hi guys I am scum are two different things.

[Bookitty]

@ProHawk:

In your experience, do scum often enter the game by saying, Hi Guise I iz scum who my buddies pleez? Have you seen this be a viable strategy for scum?

I've been accused of taking things too seriously in this game (and in a couple of others, I'm sure). Are you often accused of this?

[GreyICE]

GreyICE, do you subscribe to Juls' feeling that both 2birds and garmr are scum?

As an aside here, I share an alignment with the person I replace. I do NOT share their reads. I am not particularly beholden to them, nor do I feel the need to justify them.

That being said, 2birds is a moderate to strong town read (he's playing poorly, but not scummily). Garmr... I'm voting for him

[Bookitty]

1.

As an aside here, I share an alignment with the person I replace. I do NOT share their reads. I am not particularly beholden to them, nor do I feel the need to justify them.

2.

That being said, 2birds is a moderate to strong town read (he's playing poorly, but not scummily). Garmr... I'm voting for him

1. I get that and I accept it. I was curious because I didn't understand Juls' reasoning; if you shared it, you might be able to explain it.

2. I don't share your strong scumread on garmr. I think they could both be town, but I don't think they could be scum together. Prohawk said something about Feysal calling garmr a quality player (not in those words, but I can't remember exactly how it was said right now. I can look up the quote I mean if it's needed), but I'm not overly impressed with the repeated fakeclaims and the weak "I was scumhunting! Honest!" explanation later. I don't buy it, but I'm not sure it makes him scum.

[Garmr]

How long is it going to take before people realize flubbers trying to please the majority and vote him.

[WaffleGhost]

So I read over most of the game so far. I didn't see any serious **** ups, or anything that instantly rang out as scum. I'm not sure who I should be voting for really, so me thinks I'll just stick to 2birds.

@Bookitty, so can "used" to mark something as a joke?

[Bookitty]

Yes, or to denote that you found something funny. As in, "GreyICE claimed scum, lol."

I seem to recall watching some horror movie where "I did it for the LOLs" was a thing, so it can be used as a noun too.

[WaffleGhost]

And is a ":P" face similar to a "lol"?

[WaffleGhost]

Never mind this defense isn't worth the time it's taking XD forget I said anything,

[Bookitty]

What defense?

How is asking questions not related to the game a defense in any way?

I may have to thank massive for realz.

[Rumia x Cirno]

Primate has been prodded.

[Rumia x Cirno]

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